Hamilton's latest dig at Rosberg the 'Gentleman'?

Hamilton's latest dig at Rosberg the 'Gentleman'?

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thatguy11

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640 posts

122 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Hamilton referred to Rosberg as a 'gentleman' for obeying team orders and letting him through during the Monaco GP.

I may be reading too much into this, but it's an interesting choice of words by Hamilton; and subtle word choice is everything in psychological warfare.



Correct me if i'm wrong, but my interpretation of the term 'gentleman racer' is a well-heeled individual who goes racing more for the fun of it than as a primary career. They may well race professionally rather than as an amateur, but not to the same dedication as the truly gifted drivers who want to climb the motorsports ladder right to the very top. Think Simon Dolan or Patrick Dempsey.

If I was a Grand Prix driver, I’d take being called a gentleman racer as a bit of an insult.

Leithen

10,800 posts

266 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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His actions were that of a gentleman. A justified compliment, something far too rare in the navel-gazing fishbowl of F1. Credit to both drivers.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

173 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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I did wonder if it was a sly dig. I also wonder firstly if Hamilton would have let Rosberg past had the situation been reversed and secondly if Rosberg would have let him past had he not been in the middle of trying to negotiate a new contract. Somehow I think not on both counts.

So gentleman or just a bit weak? This race had the feeling of significant moment about it... just like Spa 2014..

SeeFive

8,280 posts

232 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Hamilton knew that Rosberg was not on his pace, or in fact that of the the crocodile of cars behind - one of whom could have thrown one down the inside of Hamilton as he tried to pass Rosberg. The team knew it, Rosberg knew it.

It would only be a matter of time with the performance not improving before the team called to let Hamilton go given the problems of passing on this mickey mouse circuit. Rosberg did the right thing, some less mature drivers would not have done so but that attitude would be taken very badly by the team, with outcomes possibly leading to another double DNF as frustrations increased - let alone a winning opportunity missed.

Yes, it was a good decision by the team and well handled by Rosberg, and to some extent Hamilton by not attempting the banzai move earlier.

Did Rosberg cruise over the line to lose 6th place? He will remember that if he loses the championship by a point or so.

Turquoise

1,457 posts

96 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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OP, I think you are over thinking this one.

coanda_2013

41 posts

104 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Whilst I think the OP might be overthinking this, I don't doubt that there is likely to be a constant psychological battle between the both of them. To be fair in line with the 'Gentleman Racer' impression the OP has, Lewis has previously talked about Nico being from a privileged background on a couple of occasions.

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

226 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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SeeFive said:
Did Rosberg cruise over the line to lose 6th place? He will remember that if he loses the championship by a point or so.
He didn't. Rosberg's ultras were worse tyres compared to Hulk's softs once it started raining. Less rubber left therefore cooled more quickly and they require a higher working temp anyway.

Crafty_

13,248 posts

199 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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thatguy11 said:
Hamilton referred to Rosberg as a 'gentleman' for obeying team orders and letting him through during the Monaco GP.

I may be reading too much into this, but it's an interesting choice of words by Hamilton; and subtle word choice is everything in psychological warfare.



Correct me if i'm wrong, but my interpretation of the term 'gentleman racer' is a well-heeled individual who goes racing more for the fun of it than as a primary career. They may well race professionally rather than as an amateur, but not to the same dedication as the truly gifted drivers who want to climb the motorsports ladder right to the very top. Think Simon Dolan or Patrick Dempsey.

If I was a Grand Prix driver, I’d take being called a gentleman racer as a bit of an insult.
Hamilton called him a gentleman. You've somehow connected that with Hamilton implying "gentleman racer".

You've construction the implication and then blamed Hamilton for it.

Comes to something when a driver gives another a compliment and its still treated as an insult.

Jasandjules

69,825 posts

228 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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I start to wonder if Lewis said "hello" to Nico whether there would be comments about it being an insult...


anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Turquoise said:
OP, I think you are over thinking this one.
yes

Vaud

50,289 posts

154 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Jasandjules said:
I start to wonder if Lewis said "hello" to Nico whether there would be comments about it being an insult...
And he lives near him in Monaco. Just to undermine him.

cgt2

7,093 posts

187 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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I'm sure the fact they live in the same apartment block in Fontvielle is a deliberate attempt by Hamilton to undermine his teammate psychologically.

Perhaps the OP would care to go round and measure their respective apartment windows and see who has the bigger windows then accuse the property developer/builder in question of favouring one over the other.

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

98 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Calling Rosberg a gentleman is an insult.
The blighter's not even British

perdu

4,884 posts

198 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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It gets extremely odd in here sometimes

confused

Smollet

10,465 posts

189 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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perdu said:
It gets extremely odd in here sometimes

confused
Oh yes. rofl

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

151 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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cgt2 said:
I'm sure the fact they live in the same apartment block in Fontvielle is a deliberate attempt by Hamilton to undermine his teammate psychologically.

Perhaps the OP would care to go round and measure their respective apartment windows and see who has the bigger windows then accuse the property developer/builder in question of favouring one over the other.
I understand LH has taken to ringing his doorbell and running away - bloody mind games

Johnnybee

2,279 posts

220 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Vocal Minority said:
I understand LH has taken to ringing his doorbell and running away - bloody mind games
It's worse than that, before he rings the doorbell he sets fire to a paper bag full of dog st.

Edited by Johnnybee on Tuesday 31st May 09:48

Turquoise

1,457 posts

96 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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That's rife in Monaco. It's why I moved away to Essex.

williamp

19,213 posts

272 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Can you imagine how painful the residents association meeting would be. Like one of those Frasier episodes. "I need a parking space closer to the entrance then Flat 3b"
"Flat 4c has got a bigger balcony then me"
"Yeah, well Flat 3b smells"
"Flat 4c sounds silly"


swisstoni

16,850 posts

278 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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garyhun said:
Turquoise said:
OP, I think you are over thinking this one.
yes
Underthinking more likely.