Are you well dressed? A PH gentleman thread.

Are you well dressed? A PH gentleman thread.

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13m

26,271 posts

221 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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ATG said:
Dunno if more outfits have been revealed in the middle of the thread, but the first one (unusually red/orange/tan shoes and purple jacket) is interesting. It's a mass of contradictions. By modern standards it isn't casual at all in terms of the cut and shape. Most British men haven't worn tailored clothes casually for decades. But the colour combination is pretty flamboyant, and one usually associates that with casual wear. There is a chunk of somewhat socially isolated people who consider themselves upper class and cling on to it a bit by wearing some tailored "casual" items, for example a sports jacket, when other people of their age wouldn't consider doing so. See Tatler for some examples. Their style is a bit of a throw back to the 50s. But it isn't anything like as flamboyant as this. It's more young fogey and it is fundamentally a very conservative look. Indeed most British men's formal/semi-formal is about conforming to an expectation. Stray from it a little if it's clear you're doing it on purpose, and you'll win points. Go too far and you'll either look like you're trying too hard, which is bad, or, worse still, that you didn't know the etiquette in the first place, disaster!

So in terms of English social cues, the OP's outfit is sending out a cacophony of mixed messages. If you forget all the semiotic bullst and just look at the colours, shapes and textures, I think it looks great. But all those messages about social status, wealth, showing that one belongs to a group because you know how to conform to their expectations, yet still displaying originality/rebellion ... they are pretty fundamental to how we read other people's attire, and at the very least are subconsciously a large part of our thoughts when we're picking clothes for ourselves. What message is the OP trying to send?

Edited by ATG on Sunday 26th June 19:10
That's a bit deep for me after four San Miguel and a Negroni. Can you simplify it?


FreeLitres

6,039 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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13m said:
ATG said:
Dunno if more outfits have been revealed in the middle of the thread, but the first one (unusually red/orange/tan shoes and purple jacket) is interesting. It's a mass of contradictions. By modern standards it isn't casual at all in terms of the cut and shape. Most British men haven't worn tailored clothes casually for decades. But the colour combination is pretty flamboyant, and one usually associates that with casual wear. There is a chunk of somewhat socially isolated people who consider themselves upper class and cling on to it a bit by wearing some tailored "casual" items, for example a sports jacket, when other people of their age wouldn't consider doing so. See Tatler for some examples. Their style is a bit of a throw back to the 50s. But it isn't anything like as flamboyant as this. It's more young fogey and it is fundamentally a very conservative look. Indeed most British men's formal/semi-formal is about conforming to an expectation. Stray from it a little if it's clear you're doing it on purpose, and you'll win points. Go too far and you'll either look like you're trying too hard, which is bad, or, worse still, that you didn't know the etiquette in the first place, disaster!

So in terms of English social cues, the OP's outfit is sending out a cacophony of mixed messages. If you forget all the semiotic bullst and just look at the colours, shapes and textures, I think it looks great. But all those messages about social status, wealth, showing that one belongs to a group because you know how to conform to their expectations, yet still displaying originality/rebellion ... they are pretty fundamental to how we read other people's attire, and at the very least are subconsciously a large part of our thoughts when we're picking clothes for ourselves. What message is the OP trying to send?

Edited by ATG on Sunday 26th June 19:10
That's a bit deep for me after four San Miguel and a Negroni. Can you simplify it?
"OP blazer and red shoes - LOLz!"

Impasse

15,099 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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13m said:
That's a bit deep for me after four San Miguel and a Negroni. Can you simplify it?
I hope you're dressed correctly for such drinking informality.

FreeLitres

6,039 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Here is my casual lager drinking outfit


13m

26,271 posts

221 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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FreeLitres said:
Here is my casual lager drinking outfit

What's on the end of the strap?

Impasse

15,099 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Deference.

FreeLitres

6,039 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Strap?

That's just my dole-pole.

whoami

13,151 posts

239 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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FreeLitres said:
Here is my casual lager drinking outfit

Was that a selfie?

LordGrover

33,532 posts

211 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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That reminds me... where did I put my drinking hat & gloves?

Thankyou4calling

10,596 posts

172 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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InductionRoar said:
How did this event go? I would be interested to see your outfit. smile
Thanks for asking.

It was fantastic.

I may post a pic but I wore a light grey suit with a blue shirt and dark blue tie. As said below the dress code is extremely clear and strictly enforced.

I'm normally pretty flamboyant but decided my partner and daughter should be in the spotlight which they certainly were.

Two doormen fussing over them and whisking their shopping bags away for safe keeping whilst I parked.

Then tucked in to a feast before going on to Sketch club (Conduit st) in the evening and for that I just took off my tie.

A highly recommended treat.

13m

26,271 posts

221 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Thankyou4calling said:
Thanks for asking.

It was fantastic.

I may post a pic but I wore a light grey suit with a blue shirt and dark blue tie. As said below the dress code is extremely clear and strictly enforced.

I'm normally pretty flamboyant but decided my partner and daughter should be in the spotlight which they certainly were.

Two doormen fussing over them and whisking their shopping bags away for safe keeping whilst I parked.

Then tucked in to a feast before going on to Sketch club (Conduit st) in the evening and for that I just took off my tie.

A highly recommended treat.
On a scale of 1 - Bonkers how mad are the toilets at Sketch?

Thankyou4calling

10,596 posts

172 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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They are definitely an 11.

It always reminds me of the Jeff Goldblum character in the fly.

Only had a couple of Cocktails there but I love the quirkiness of the club and the musics pretty chilled, also i parked right outside the door as it was after 6.30pm


Meridius

1,608 posts

151 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Well it was the menswear Paris fashion week this weekend... hehe


"u got ID m8"







13m

26,271 posts

221 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Meridius said:
Well it was the menswear Paris fashion week this weekend... hehe


"u got ID m8"






I reckon Inductionroar has already got at least one of those outfits.

InductionRoar

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2,001 posts

131 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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13m said:
I reckon Inductionroar has already got at least one of those outfits.
I'm sure I could put something together. hehe

Gunk

3,302 posts

158 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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InductionRoar said:
The weather is quite autumnal in temperature today so this is my smart > casual (YMMV) outfit for today.

Pocket square is protruding too far out of my pocket on the photo (but is now sitting at the correct height. tongue out)



My trousers aren't that short - I hiked them up to allow judgement of sock choice.

That's a very smart outfit and all looks super quality, however I can't quite believe you dress like that for drinks in June!

sideways sid

1,371 posts

214 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Meridius said:
Well it was the menswear Paris fashion week this weekend... hehe


[pics] posted at 11:57
^^^ Could somebody photoshop on a couple of flamboyant pocket squares so that InductionRoar considers those outfits suitably smart casual?

smile

Trabi601

4,865 posts

94 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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sideways sid said:
^^^ Could somebody photoshop on a couple of flamboyant pocket squares snotrags so that InductionRoar considers those outfits suitably smart casual?

smile
Corrected that for you.

LordGrover

33,532 posts

211 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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^^

ATG

20,485 posts

271 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Chukka boots are cool. Dunno why, but they are.

As to the fashion show; Christ on a pogo stick.