Are you well dressed? A PH gentleman thread.

[anonymous-user]

craigjm said:

Yes the button of proper tailored trousers sits on your belly button.

People can argue about "properly tailored" but they can't argue with the location of your belly button v your waist.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 14th February 16:25

[Blown2CV]

your waist is meant to be the narrowest point right? So depending how fat you are, that point can vary.

[craigjm]

Blown2CV said:

your waist is meant to be the narrowest point right? So depending how fat you are, that point can vary.

If you speak to a qualified tailor they will tell you that where your waist is and where you wear your trousers are two different things.

[anonymous-user]

craigjm said:

If you speak to a qualified tailor they will tell you that where your waist is and where you wear your trousers are two different things.

Surely the point is that there is no "correct" place for your trousers to sit.

You can have, low mid or high rise - all very nicely tailored and all can look good.


Maybe the "traditional" fit is near the belly button but that doesn't mean it's compulsory.

[craigjm]

desolate said:

craigjm said:

If you speak to a qualified tailor they will tell you that where your waist is and where you wear your trousers are two different things.

Surely the point is that there is no "correct" place for your trousers to sit.

You can have, low mid or high rise - all very nicely tailored and all can look good.


Maybe the "traditional" fit is near the belly button but that doesn't mean it's compulsory.

I’m not saying it is compulsory. Low of high rise are based on that point though and my point is that most people have no idea so can end up with low rise being too low etc. Most people wear stuff and think it fits and looks good by just trying on “their size” and looking in a mirror. Once you have actually had a consultation about bespoke clothes you learn a lot more about where the reference points are. This can help you massively when buying stuff off the peg and ensuing that it does look as good as it can be.

I suppose it is like anything. If you just pick something up and try to do it you will never be as good as if you had a few lessons or some coaching. The vast majority of people have never applied that to how to dress

[phil_cardiff]

Blown2CV said:

phil_cardiff said:

Best thread ever.

ONLY MY OPINION IS CORRECT, THERE CAN BE NO MIDDLE GROUND - AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH WHERE ARE MY BROGUES.

Before anyone starts I generally wear smart casual clothing I suppose, brogues or desert boots, jeans or chinos and a shirt.

But I can appreciate different people have different styles that work for them and can be considered well dressed, if not to my particular taste.

Edited by phil_cardiff on Wednesday 13th February 23:27

style is intended to be fair less subjective. However it seems very few men seem to get this point. Most people think something like:

• it's expensive so therefore must be stylish
• i like it so therefore must be stylish
• a famous person wore it so therefore must be stylish
• anyone going on about style just wants everyone to wear the same things

Maybe go have a look on the Internet and see what the rest of it thinks about these points.

Ah Mr Condescending is back. Jolly good.

[gizlaroc]

So said:

Don't start getting all Gerald Ratner on us Guy.

People dress because they want to stay warm and dry, but they dress well because they want to signal to other people.

So, people that buy from you care very much what others think - whether they or you realise it or not.

Haha. Very good.


That was not what I was saying, I was saying that if you really like something that is a bit different and you enjoy wearing it and it makes you feel good so what if a couple of people rib you for wearing it.

Usually it is the person who has worn the same jeans and gingham shirt with a navy sweater for the last 25 years who will be taking the piss.
Who cares what they think? F**k 'em!

[gizlaroc]

rsbmw said:

fking hell, you'd throw them a few quid assuming they had slept rough



Derelicte...

Ignore the silly hats, that is just catwalk tosh, but the rest of this I really like and could see a lot of people wearing it.

[So]

gizlaroc said:

So said:

Don't start getting all Gerald Ratner on us Guy.

People dress because they want to stay warm and dry, but they dress well because they want to signal to other people.

So, people that buy from you care very much what others think - whether they or you realise it or not.

Haha. Very good.


That was not what I was saying, I was saying that if you really like something that is a bit different and you enjoy wearing it and it makes you feel good so what if a couple of people rib you for wearing it.

So my Tigger onesie and cowboy boots ensemble is vindicated then.

[So]

craigjm said:

Blown2CV said:

your waist is meant to be the narrowest point right? So depending how fat you are, that point can vary.

If you speak to a qualified tailor they will tell you that where your waist is and where you wear your trousers are two different things.

`
That's true for me, and where my trousers sit has changed over the years; the reverse of what you might expect too. Twenty years ago when I had suits made the waistband was somewhere near my navel. Those I've had made recently sit lower.

[Blown2CV]

phil_cardiff said:

Blown2CV said:

phil_cardiff said:

Best thread ever.

ONLY MY OPINION IS CORRECT, THERE CAN BE NO MIDDLE GROUND - AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH WHERE ARE MY BROGUES.

Before anyone starts I generally wear smart casual clothing I suppose, brogues or desert boots, jeans or chinos and a shirt.

But I can appreciate different people have different styles that work for them and can be considered well dressed, if not to my particular taste.

Edited by phil_cardiff on Wednesday 13th February 23:27

style is intended to be fair less subjective. However it seems very few men seem to get this point. Most people think something like:

• it's expensive so therefore must be stylish
• i like it so therefore must be stylish
• a famous person wore it so therefore must be stylish
• anyone going on about style just wants everyone to wear the same things

Maybe go have a look on the Internet and see what the rest of it thinks about these points.

Ah Mr Condescending is back. Jolly good.

grow up they aren't my rules

[gizlaroc]

So said:

So my Tigger onesie and cowboy boots ensemble is vindicated then.

Of course!

We all thought you looked great in it anyway, traditional wedding gear is so boring.

[WinstonWolf]

InductionRoar said:

craigjm said:

Overall D said:

This is all well and good, but what do resident style gurus suggest as a head gear in a convertible? Personally, having a distinctively eastern european face, a flat cap just looks cheesy and if I wear a baseball cap people around start checking their wallets haven't gone missing

A truly stylish gentleman would not be seen dead in a convertible. They are for the ladies and geriatrics trying to relive their youth

I think that's nailed that opinion once and for all

[anonymous-user]

desolate said:

Lord Marylebone said:

Agreed.

“What chest size are your trousers?”

Isn't your belly button where your waist is?

I was just making a joke. But you knew that....

[RichB]

WinstonWolf said:

InductionRoar said:

craigjm said:

Overall D said:

This is all well and good, but what do resident style gurus suggest as a head gear in a convertible? Personally, having a distinctively eastern european face, a flat cap just looks cheesy and if I wear a baseball cap people around start checking their wallets haven't gone missing

A truly stylish gentleman would not be seen dead in a convertible. They are for the ladies and geriatrics trying to relive their youth

I think that's nailed that opinion once and for all

Sorted...

[So]

RichB said:

WinstonWolf said:

InductionRoar said:

craigjm said:

Overall D said:

This is all well and good, but what do resident style gurus suggest as a head gear in a convertible? Personally, having a distinctively eastern european face, a flat cap just looks cheesy and if I wear a baseball cap people around start checking their wallets haven't gone missing

A truly stylish gentleman would not be seen dead in a convertible. They are for the ladies and geriatrics trying to relive their youth

I think that's nailed that opinion once and for all

Sorted...

I am not sure what point is being made here, but if he were Dave the off-duty postman climbing into a Triumph Herald, would he still look stylish? Or would he just be a middle-aged bloke in a flat cap?

[Integroo]

Blown2CV said:

phil_cardiff said:

Blown2CV said:

phil_cardiff said:

Best thread ever.

ONLY MY OPINION IS CORRECT, THERE CAN BE NO MIDDLE GROUND - AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH WHERE ARE MY BROGUES.

Before anyone starts I generally wear smart casual clothing I suppose, brogues or desert boots, jeans or chinos and a shirt.

But I can appreciate different people have different styles that work for them and can be considered well dressed, if not to my particular taste.

Edited by phil_cardiff on Wednesday 13th February 23:27

style is intended to be fair less subjective. However it seems very few men seem to get this point. Most people think something like:

• it's expensive so therefore must be stylish
• i like it so therefore must be stylish
• a famous person wore it so therefore must be stylish
• anyone going on about style just wants everyone to wear the same things

Maybe go have a look on the Internet and see what the rest of it thinks about these points.

Ah Mr Condescending is back. Jolly good.

grow up they aren't my rules

They aren't my rules either which is what you're trying to suggest.

[WinstonWolf]

So said:

RichB said:

WinstonWolf said:

InductionRoar said:

craigjm said:

Overall D said:

This is all well and good, but what do resident style gurus suggest as a head gear in a convertible? Personally, having a distinctively eastern european face, a flat cap just looks cheesy and if I wear a baseball cap people around start checking their wallets haven't gone missing

A truly stylish gentleman would not be seen dead in a convertible. They are for the ladies and geriatrics trying to relive their youth

I think that's nailed that opinion once and for all

Sorted...

I am not sure what point is being made here, but if he were Dave the off-duty postman climbing into a Triumph Herald, would he still look stylish? Or would he just be a middle-aged bloke in a flat cap?

That is a truly stylish gentleman climbing into a convertible. QED.

[So]

WinstonWolf said:

So said:

RichB said:

WinstonWolf said:

InductionRoar said:

craigjm said:

Overall D said:

This is all well and good, but what do resident style gurus suggest as a head gear in a convertible? Personally, having a distinctively eastern european face, a flat cap just looks cheesy and if I wear a baseball cap people around start checking their wallets haven't gone missing

A truly stylish gentleman would not be seen dead in a convertible. They are for the ladies and geriatrics trying to relive their youth

I think that's nailed that opinion once and for all

Sorted...

I am not sure what point is being made here, but if he were Dave the off-duty postman climbing into a Triumph Herald, would he still look stylish? Or would he just be a middle-aged bloke in a flat cap?

That is a truly stylish gentleman climbing into a convertible. QED.

He may have been a stylish gentleman and he may have been climbing into a convertible. But there are few cues in that photo that he is stylishly dressed.

Were he not a famous actor and that was an ordinary car I doubt anyone would be cooing about his stylishness.

[WinstonWolf]

Stylish enough for you?