Are you well dressed? A PH gentleman thread.
Discussion
I thought this -
PanzerCommander said:
Nope, I only wear trousers shoes and a shirt when I absolutely have to. T-shirt, jeans and trainers or boots.
but I wasn't sure about this - Gunk said:
My God I've stumbled across Mumsnet 
until i saw this - InductionRoar said:
I mean, £750+vat for a pair of shoes, do they do something else as well?OP have a bit of self confidence.
I'm not trying to be horrible, but fannying about wondering what to wear. Really? So long as you don't roll into this event in scruffy jeans and old trainers, will anyone really give a damn?
You've got some nice clothes, you like nice clothes, just sort something out on the day and go. No-one will remember or care what you are wearing unless it's a fashion industry do.
Is there a woman in your life? Wife, girlfriend, mum, the lady next door? On the rare occasion I'm undecided about what to put on I just get my wife to tell me if it works or not.
The future of your career and your company does not depend on how you dress. If for some reason it does, then you have much bigger problems to think about than a wine coloured jacket and a pocket square.
Forget it. Dump this unnecessary stress and embuggerance in your life and concentrate on making a good impression with what you say, and how you say it.
I'm not trying to be horrible, but fannying about wondering what to wear. Really? So long as you don't roll into this event in scruffy jeans and old trainers, will anyone really give a damn?
You've got some nice clothes, you like nice clothes, just sort something out on the day and go. No-one will remember or care what you are wearing unless it's a fashion industry do.
Is there a woman in your life? Wife, girlfriend, mum, the lady next door? On the rare occasion I'm undecided about what to put on I just get my wife to tell me if it works or not.
The future of your career and your company does not depend on how you dress. If for some reason it does, then you have much bigger problems to think about than a wine coloured jacket and a pocket square.
Forget it. Dump this unnecessary stress and embuggerance in your life and concentrate on making a good impression with what you say, and how you say it.
I tend to agree with Wildcat above whilst also finding myself thinking that the photo on the first page basically was Alan Partridge as evidenced by the Photoshop that took me a good few seconds to realise was a Photoshop.
I suspect age makes a difference here in that if you're 22 and dressing like that it's a bit different than if you're 55.
I suspect age makes a difference here in that if you're 22 and dressing like that it's a bit different than if you're 55.
had ham said:
You look like a National Express bus coach driver. Nothing fits (except perhaps the shoes?). The jacket arms are 2~3 inches too long, your tie looks like it was tied by Kyle from Yr9, and your shirt was obviously bought from Burtons as an over-size 'back to school' item. The jacket is just plain awful.
You don't look like a 'Gentleman', you look like a a dweeb trying really hard to mix with the jocks at the high school prom and failing quite badly.
I actually like the shoes, but not with the rest of the clown outfit. I actually suspect you may be a troll - if so, hats off to you.
Completely disagree with this. If you honestly believe that "nothing fits" in that outfit and that the jacket sleeves are 2-3 inches too long then please, please post up a picture of yourself wearing what you consider to be a well-fitting outfit. Either here or in the Sean Connery thread will be fine.You don't look like a 'Gentleman', you look like a a dweeb trying really hard to mix with the jocks at the high school prom and failing quite badly.
I actually like the shoes, but not with the rest of the clown outfit. I actually suspect you may be a troll - if so, hats off to you.
Unless...you're American ("dweeb", "jocks", "high school prom")? In which case all can be forgiven as it's not your fault. But still, let's see your outfit for giggles - can't wait to see the angle of the "snapback"
I don't think inductionroar is at all worried about what he wears, he's just trying to start a thread about clothes and shoes, because he's into them.
I've read a few of his posts about shoes and male styling and always enjoy his input and positivity in the face of generally negative responses.
TBH I'd also like a Styling/fashion/shoes forum in here. There are plenty of othet niche forums in here that do well. I appreciate many people in the lounge have no interest in this stuff at all.
I've read a few of his posts about shoes and male styling and always enjoy his input and positivity in the face of generally negative responses.
TBH I'd also like a Styling/fashion/shoes forum in here. There are plenty of othet niche forums in here that do well. I appreciate many people in the lounge have no interest in this stuff at all.
el stovey said:
I don't think inductionroar is at all worried about what he wears, he's just trying to start a thread about clothes and shoes, because he's into them.
I've read a few of his posts about shoes and male styling and always enjoy his input and positivity in the face of generally negative responses.
TBH I'd also like a Styling/fashion/shoes forum in here. There are plenty of othet niche forums in here that do well. I appreciate many people in the lounge have no interest in this stuff at all.
Tend to agree, amazes me the number of people on here who either don't wash/shower/dress well or like to pretend they don't.I've read a few of his posts about shoes and male styling and always enjoy his input and positivity in the face of generally negative responses.
TBH I'd also like a Styling/fashion/shoes forum in here. There are plenty of othet niche forums in here that do well. I appreciate many people in the lounge have no interest in this stuff at all.
Right. I'll try and address all comments briefly. 
Fit - I concede that the sleeves are too long (3 inches is a bit of a stretch though) but I think it unwise to go bespoke until such time as you've achieved your desired physique. I am close to having achieved my ideal physique and consequently am considering bespoke for later in the year. I currently require an 8 inch+ drop so my "off the peg" options are somewhat restricted and I would rather not get into alterations (best to get it right first time around).
"The jacket" is Paul Smith (Kensington) which I bought in the sale - once I have a few bespoke jackets it will go to the charity shop along with my others. It clearly isn't a colour I would choose at full retail however, at the price I paid it seemed a bargain.
Tie - How is the tie an issue? It is a FIH knot but as I literally wore the outfit for the photo only I didn't pull it fully tight so as to not wear the fabric out unduly. I assume the comments made were in relation to a FIH being simpler than a Windsor for example. Regardless, I prefer a small, asymmetrical knot to the Match of the Day ties you see on most igents so will continue with FIH. I must confess however, I didn't appreciate every minute detail of my outfit was under scrutiny - I suppose I should feel lucky the gravel went uncriticised.
To the cheap shirt brigade - I would be very interested to hear what brand/maker you wear (please say Thomas Pink I beg you).
Shoes - Yes they are that price (don't forget £150 for shoe trees), they serve no function other than to cover my feet (which they achieve admirably) and no they are not the most expensive shoes in my "rotation".
All the gear no idea - Quite the contrary. The only items on show which are "quality" are the shoes, tie and pocket square. The trousers, jacket and shirt are all machine made in India, China or some other undesirable location.
I tend to buy the items that will always fit first i.e. watches, cufflinks, shoes, ties, umbrellas etc (yes you read correctly). Only when I have all bases covered will I go about addressing the fit/cut of my clothes. Incidentally, I am very glad I took this approach as I couldn't afford a lot of the items I own at today's prices and no doubt my bespoke suit would be rather tatty.
Gentleman? - I wasn't professing to be a gentleman. I do however, think laying into somebody in the manner some posters have on this thread is far more ungentlemanly than having sleeves that need altering or an offensively coloured jacket. Having worn that jacket multiple times and having never once received a negative comment makes me wonder whether it is a keyboard warrior issue or whether I am just hard of hearing when I'm out.
Pocket square - I literally stuck it in my pocket to give a general idea. I wouldn't have worn it like that when it came to it.
In response to one of the posts above - Yes, I did just throw the outfit together. As I said earlier in the thread it was a quiet day in the office and I picked clothes I knew I had and put them together in my mind and posted them. I have never worn that combination before and won't again but not due to the criticism received on here.
When I saw the Al Murray comments I thought I would put the clothes on and post a photo to show I am not averse to the odd piss take. I don't generally ask for sartorial advice and as I said before it was just a thread starter not a genuine enquiry - I would have put more serious thought to it nearer the time.
To those who are interested I shall wear the same shoes and trousers, a textured shirt with an open collar, and a v-neck jumper.
As I'm sure all the original and witty remarks have already been made here is another photo of some of my items. Please feel free to comment - I would be disappointed if you didn't...
Fit - I concede that the sleeves are too long (3 inches is a bit of a stretch though) but I think it unwise to go bespoke until such time as you've achieved your desired physique. I am close to having achieved my ideal physique and consequently am considering bespoke for later in the year. I currently require an 8 inch+ drop so my "off the peg" options are somewhat restricted and I would rather not get into alterations (best to get it right first time around).
"The jacket" is Paul Smith (Kensington) which I bought in the sale - once I have a few bespoke jackets it will go to the charity shop along with my others. It clearly isn't a colour I would choose at full retail however, at the price I paid it seemed a bargain.
Tie - How is the tie an issue? It is a FIH knot but as I literally wore the outfit for the photo only I didn't pull it fully tight so as to not wear the fabric out unduly. I assume the comments made were in relation to a FIH being simpler than a Windsor for example. Regardless, I prefer a small, asymmetrical knot to the Match of the Day ties you see on most igents so will continue with FIH. I must confess however, I didn't appreciate every minute detail of my outfit was under scrutiny - I suppose I should feel lucky the gravel went uncriticised.
To the cheap shirt brigade - I would be very interested to hear what brand/maker you wear (please say Thomas Pink I beg you).
Shoes - Yes they are that price (don't forget £150 for shoe trees), they serve no function other than to cover my feet (which they achieve admirably) and no they are not the most expensive shoes in my "rotation".
All the gear no idea - Quite the contrary. The only items on show which are "quality" are the shoes, tie and pocket square. The trousers, jacket and shirt are all machine made in India, China or some other undesirable location.
I tend to buy the items that will always fit first i.e. watches, cufflinks, shoes, ties, umbrellas etc (yes you read correctly). Only when I have all bases covered will I go about addressing the fit/cut of my clothes. Incidentally, I am very glad I took this approach as I couldn't afford a lot of the items I own at today's prices and no doubt my bespoke suit would be rather tatty.
Gentleman? - I wasn't professing to be a gentleman. I do however, think laying into somebody in the manner some posters have on this thread is far more ungentlemanly than having sleeves that need altering or an offensively coloured jacket. Having worn that jacket multiple times and having never once received a negative comment makes me wonder whether it is a keyboard warrior issue or whether I am just hard of hearing when I'm out.
Pocket square - I literally stuck it in my pocket to give a general idea. I wouldn't have worn it like that when it came to it.
In response to one of the posts above - Yes, I did just throw the outfit together. As I said earlier in the thread it was a quiet day in the office and I picked clothes I knew I had and put them together in my mind and posted them. I have never worn that combination before and won't again but not due to the criticism received on here.
When I saw the Al Murray comments I thought I would put the clothes on and post a photo to show I am not averse to the odd piss take. I don't generally ask for sartorial advice and as I said before it was just a thread starter not a genuine enquiry - I would have put more serious thought to it nearer the time.
To those who are interested I shall wear the same shoes and trousers, a textured shirt with an open collar, and a v-neck jumper.
As I'm sure all the original and witty remarks have already been made here is another photo of some of my items. Please feel free to comment - I would be disappointed if you didn't...
InductionRoar said:
Gentleman? - I wasn't professing to be a gentleman.
You may want to re-visit the title of the thread ... Oh, and a serious point, well-chosen and well-made bespoke suits last ages, I'm still wearing suits I had made more than 10 years ago.
(Not sure why the quoting isn't working)
Typical PH clothing thread: OP appears to at first realise he needs some help, some people act like pricks, then he goes all defensive (8inch drop makes you 'in good shape' FFS - it doesn't mean you need your jackets made by The Rock's tailor!) and rejects some pretty decent device.
As others have already tried to offer up, there's just too much going on - have a look at the below, note the fits in the lookbook section - and how there's only one, maximum of two tones going on!)
http://www.fashionbeans.com/2013/mens-coloured-bla...
As others have already tried to offer up, there's just too much going on - have a look at the below, note the fits in the lookbook section - and how there's only one, maximum of two tones going on!)
http://www.fashionbeans.com/2013/mens-coloured-bla...
Well, this thread has gone / is going as expected, and the OP is quite brave for starting it on here! It's receiving the same sort of replies as you might expect a bad parking thread to receive on Mumsnet or one of the fashion boards.
Final bits of advice (for what it's worth) from me - fashion is transient and often looks try-hard, style is understated and lasts. Look at anyone considered "well dressed" over the last 80 years. In common they all have tailoring, and being understated rather than flashy - stylish rather than fashionable, if you will. Go with that - few colours, a nice fit, and understated. Job done.
Final bits of advice (for what it's worth) from me - fashion is transient and often looks try-hard, style is understated and lasts. Look at anyone considered "well dressed" over the last 80 years. In common they all have tailoring, and being understated rather than flashy - stylish rather than fashionable, if you will. Go with that - few colours, a nice fit, and understated. Job done.
Edited by DanL on Saturday 4th June 11:01
Tidybeard said:
Completely disagree with this. If you honestly believe that "nothing fits" in that outfit and that the jacket sleeves are 2-3 inches too long then please, please post up a picture of yourself wearing what you consider to be a well-fitting outfit. Either here or in the Sean Connery thread will be fine.
Unless...you're American ("dweeb", "jocks", "high school prom")? In which case all can be forgiven as it's not your fault. But still, let's see your outfit for giggles - can't wait to see the angle of the "snapback"
Now why the fUnless...you're American ("dweeb", "jocks", "high school prom")? In which case all can be forgiven as it's not your fault. But still, let's see your outfit for giggles - can't wait to see the angle of the "snapback"
k would I do that? I really couldn't give two sts what internet randoms like you think of how I dress. I'm confident enough with my clothes not to have to resort to attention whoring on the internet to affirm my choices. had ham said:
Now why the fk would I do that? I really couldn't give two sts what internet randoms like you think of how I dress. I'm confident enough with my clothes not to have to resort to attention whoring on the internet to affirm my choices.
Fascinating, as you do seem to think that others are interested in your own (random internet) opinion. Yet another egotistical angry internet hard man. Yawn. k would I do that? I really couldn't give two sts what internet randoms like you think of how I dress. I'm confident enough with my clothes not to have to resort to attention whoring on the internet to affirm my choices. el stovey said:
I don't think inductionroar is at all worried about what he wears, he's just trying to start a thread about clothes and shoes, because he's into them.
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