Prepping

[5ohmustang]

ATG said:

Nice to hear you singing a song by the Sanders supporting lefty Neil Young. A protest song thats title is ironic. The title means "keep on burying your head in the sand".

Outrage. Would you like me to sing Killary supporting Springsteen's ghost of Tom Joad.

Hot soup on a campfire under the bridge
Shelter line stretching 'round the corner
Welcome to the new world order
Families sleeping in the cars in the southwest
No home, no job, no peace, no rest.

[Efbe]

http://www.readyscotland.org/

scotland even has it's own government website for prepping

[Countdown]

http://newsthump.com/2016/03/22/doomsday-prepper-a...

[5ohmustang]

Efbe said:

http://www.readyscotland.org/

scotland even has it's own government website for prepping

That's cool, better need it and not have it than have. It and not need it

The U.S. has a similar site, www.ready.gov

During the spring and fall it's Tornado season here, when those loud ass sirens go off f**k me is it a rush. We have storm radios which is the NOAA system, you set set it to specific counties. When the beep comes on it's like the incoming nuke warning system. I will never forget April 27th 2011 when we lived in Alabama, there were around 130 tornados that passed through the state. That was damn close, the bank half a mile away was flattened.

This is Oak Grove, AL on that date.





https://youtu.be/IJaW2ribBus

In Colorado it's wild fires and hail. We lived right next to Garden of the Gods maybe half a mile from the Waldo canyon burn scar.



USAF academy football field at the the bottom of the picture.

The hail there will write off vehicles. Entire car parks at work were written off as the hail was so extreme. Literally golf ball sized hail.

I had thick blankets in my garage that I would throw over the mustang and Evo x. I would quickly don my motorcycle helmet and jacket, throw the blankets on the cars and retreat inside. The bonnet and roof on the Evo x was badly damaged that was later repair and bonnet was replaced with a carbon fiber item.

The most recent emergency were wildfires this last Christmas through the Smokey mountains. Plenty of vids on YouTube.

[5ohmustang]

Countdown said:

http://newsthump.com/2016/03/22/doomsday-prepper-a...

Good job being a text book liberal, totally intolerant of others who do not share your beliefs.

[jdw100]

Why, if living in a region beset with tornados, deadly hail etc, do people keep building houses in the same style?

I can't recall how many times I've seen news reports with some poor family standing in front of the remains of their wooden house saying "that durn tornado done ripped off ma roof and swept up ma automobile, found it three counties over in the Hogg's fishin' pool. Jasus bless us for we still livin' though"

After, say, two incidents of this you think that they'd decide that maybe wood is not the best material and that their living quarters might be better protected if underground.

A friend of our family had his house unexpectedly inundated by the sea a couple of years ago. He didn't just rebuild to the same standard and say well maybe that won't happen again. No he raised it up on stilts and built a big sea wall at the end of the garden.

I really don't understand why if you live in a area of such tornado and hailstone related danger you don't adapt the housing to suit.

I live in a hot country - so my house iis very open in style. I wouldn't build one like that in the UK, due to the cold winters. If I lived in a region where forest fires were a real danger I would not build a wooden house.

Surely just common sense?

[5ohmustang]

1. The Msm love interviewing poor people in single wide trailers.

2. A regular brick home will not save you, it will give you a slightly improved level of protection over a modular home. But not much. I have seen many brick homes levelled.

3. Some houses have submerged concrete storm shelters which are the best defense against tornados. There's quite a few near me. Some people cannot afford to build them while their land may be rented. It's like someone building a bunker on a council estate, they are on low income and it's not their land.

Edited by 5ohmustang on Sunday 26th February 06:56

[5ohmustang]

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/article134892379....

[iphonedyou]

5ohmustang said:

Good job being a text book liberal, totally intolerant of others who do not share your beliefs.

Bad job being a Northerner - you lot are typically known for your sense of humour.

You still haven't learned what 'liberal' means then, no?

[kowalski655]

5ohmustang said:

I will never forget April 27th 2011 when we lived in Alabama, there were around 130 tornados that passed through the state. That was damn close, the bank half a mile away was flattened

5ohmustang said:

We lived right next to Garden of the Gods maybe half a mile from the Waldo canyon burn scar.

5ohmustang said:

The most recent emergency were wildfires this last Christmas through the Smokey mountains

Sounds like wherever you go, disaster follows
No wonder you do all that prep!

[davepoth]

5ohmustang said:

Outrage. Would you like me to sing Killary supporting Springsteen's ghost of Tom Joad.

Hot soup on a campfire under the bridge
Shelter line stretching 'round the corner
Welcome to the new world order
Families sleeping in the cars in the southwest
No home, no job, no peace, no rest.

You do know who Tom Joad was, don't you?

[leglessAlex]

jdw100 said:

Why, if living in a region beset with tornados, deadly hail etc, do people keep building houses in the same style?

I can't recall how many times I've seen news reports with some poor family standing in front of the remains of their wooden house saying "that durn tornado done ripped off ma roof and swept up ma automobile, found it three counties over in the Hogg's fishin' pool. Jasus bless us for we still livin' though"

After, say, two incidents of this you think that they'd decide that maybe wood is not the best material and that their living quarters might be better protected if underground.

A friend of our family had his house unexpectedly inundated by the sea a couple of years ago. He didn't just rebuild to the same standard and say well maybe that won't happen again. No he raised it up on stilts and built a big sea wall at the end of the garden.

I really don't understand why if you live in a area of such tornado and hailstone related danger you don't adapt the housing to suit.

I live in a hot country - so my house is very open in style. I wouldn't build one like that in the UK, due to the cold winters. If I lived in a region where forest fires were a real danger I would not build a wooden house.

Surely just common sense?

I think it's to do with the cost versus the benefit. As far as I know a big tornado will still flatten/terminally damage anything short of a bunker, so it makes more sense to build something cheaper as well as nicer to live in, then rebuild it if you're unlucky enough for it to be destroyed.

I can't imagine a tornado proof/resistant house would be cheap or nice to look at and live in.


Haven't most on this thread agreed that being prepared for things like a tornado is just being prudent (if you live in a high risk area) whereas being prepared for things like the breakdown of society just a little bit odd due to the fact it's really unlikely it'll happen anytime soon?

[mybrainhurts]

Not read much of this thread, but it convinced me to go out and buy a spare can of beans.

Feel safer now, thanks all...

[ApOrbital]

You need beans and sausages in a tin you utter nutter.

[hairyben]

jdw100 said:

Why, if living in a region beset with tornados, deadly hail etc, do people keep building houses in the same style?

I can't recall how many times I've seen news reports with some poor family standing in front of the remains of their wooden house saying "that durn tornado done ripped off ma roof and swept up ma automobile, found it three counties over in the Hogg's fishin' pool. Jasus bless us for we still livin' though"

After, say, two incidents of this you think that they'd decide that maybe wood is not the best material and that their living quarters might be better protected if underground.

A friend of our family had his house unexpectedly inundated by the sea a couple of years ago. He didn't just rebuild to the same standard and say well maybe that won't happen again. No he raised it up on stilts and built a big sea wall at the end of the garden.

I really don't understand why if you live in a area of such tornado and hailstone related danger you don't adapt the housing to suit.

I live in a hot country - so my house iis very open in style. I wouldn't build one like that in the UK, due to the cold winters. If I lived in a region where forest fires were a real danger I would not build a wooden house.

Surely just common sense?

Risk vs reward I guess; theres tens of millions of buildings that might potentially get trashed by a tornado but of those only a few thousand actually will in a given year, so you build normal/cheaply and insure against it. It looks terrible on the news, I dont know the real numbers but I assume the actual risk is relatively low.

Your mate next to the sea, perhaps the risk of re-flooding was pretty high therefore it worth engineering the house to withstand.

[5ohmustang]

davepoth said:

You do know who Tom Joad was, don't you?

Of course, Grapes Of Wrath, it's a classic high school English literature book here in the U.S. It's also a soon to be reality for many people here.

[berlintaxi]

5ohmustang said:

Of course, Grapes Of Wrath, it's a classic high school English literature book here in the U.S. It's also a soon to be reality for many people here.

What with the great orange leader making the country great again?

[Countdown]

5ohmustang said:

Countdown said:

http://newsthump.com/2016/03/22/doomsday-prepper-a...

Good job being a text book liberal, totally intolerant of others who do not share your beliefs.

I prefer to think of myself as mildly conservative (fiscally conservative / socially liberal). Pointing out feckwittery and stupidity isn't intolerance. Nobody is stopping you from stocking up on beans, franks, and Tampax. Knock yourself out. My own safety net involved in relying on friends and fAmily. Each to their own.

Btw you damn European society as some sort of failed liberal dystopia and yet it's YOU that feels the need to prepare for a breakdown in society and thinks that self reliance is going to be the best option? What does that say about you?

[The Moose]

hairyben said:

jdw100 said:

Why, if living in a region beset with tornados, deadly hail etc, do people keep building houses in the same style?

I can't recall how many times I've seen news reports with some poor family standing in front of the remains of their wooden house saying "that durn tornado done ripped off ma roof and swept up ma automobile, found it three counties over in the Hogg's fishin' pool. Jasus bless us for we still livin' though"

After, say, two incidents of this you think that they'd decide that maybe wood is not the best material and that their living quarters might be better protected if underground.

A friend of our family had his house unexpectedly inundated by the sea a couple of years ago. He didn't just rebuild to the same standard and say well maybe that won't happen again. No he raised it up on stilts and built a big sea wall at the end of the garden.

I really don't understand why if you live in a area of such tornado and hailstone related danger you don't adapt the housing to suit.

I live in a hot country - so my house iis very open in style. I wouldn't build one like that in the UK, due to the cold winters. If I lived in a region where forest fires were a real danger I would not build a wooden house.

Surely just common sense?

Risk vs reward I guess; theres tens of millions of buildings that might potentially get trashed by a tornado but of those only a few thousand actually will in a given year, so you build normal/cheaply and insure against it. It looks terrible on the news, I dont know the real numbers but I assume the actual risk is relatively low.

Your mate next to the sea, perhaps the risk of re-flooding was pretty high therefore it worth engineering the house to withstand.

Often there's a cost element that has to be taken into account also.

[leggly]

jdw100 said:

Why, if living in a region beset with tornados, deadly hail etc, do people keep building houses in the same style?

I can't recall how many times I've seen news reports with some poor family standing in front of the remains of their wooden house saying "that durn tornado done ripped off ma roof and swept up ma automobile, found it three counties over in the Hogg's fishin' pool. Jasus bless us for we still livin' though"

After, say, two incidents of this you think that they'd decide that maybe wood is not the best material and that their living quarters might be better protected if underground.

A friend of our family had his house unexpectedly inundated by the sea a couple of years ago. He didn't just rebuild to the same standard and say well maybe that won't happen again. No he raised it up on stilts and built a big sea wall at the end of the garden.

I really don't understand why if you live in a area of such tornado and hailstone related danger you don't adapt the housing to suit.

I live in a hot country - so my house iis very open in style. I wouldn't build one like that in the UK, due to the cold winters. If I lived in a region where forest fires were a real danger I would not build a wooden house.

Surely just common sense?

Bricks is too difficult.