Christians on PH?

[smn159]

Low Pro said:

It's hard to answer your second question but the life of the Christian is based upon Gods word, aka the Bible.

But how do you know which parts you should believe? I mean there's a ginger bloke down the road who annoys me sometimes and I'd really like to stone him - would that be OK?

Also, my daughter game me some lip this morning so I guess that I should kill her - correct?

[Eric Mc]

smn159 said:

But how do you know which parts you should believe? I mean there's a ginger bloke down the road who annoys me sometimes and I'd really like to stone him - would that be OK?

Also, my daughter game me some lip this morning so I guess that I should kill her - correct?

Any chance you could find the section of the Bible that states you could do these things (i.e. the actual verses).

[anonymous-user]

Low Pro said:

I understand that some of you guys really have a issue with Christ, but ask questions if you really want to know more.

I've got a question:

If we were eating lunch and you started to choke on some food, would you want me to carry out the Heimlich manoeuvre or pray?

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

smn159 said:

But how do you know which parts you should believe? I mean there's a ginger bloke down the road who annoys me sometimes and I'd really like to stone him - would that be OK?

Also, my daughter game me some lip this morning so I guess that I should kill her - correct?

Any chance you could find the section of the Bible that states you could do these things (i.e. the actual verses).

Leviticus 20:9 – For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him.

Regarding stoning: don't use gravel - it takes HOURS. Paving slabs should have the job done in under 30 mins.

Edited by DrSteveBrule on Monday 27th June 13:56

[Eric Mc]

Did they have paving slabs in The Bible?

Maybe there was a builders merchant pull out supplement in the original Aramaic versions.

So much has been lost.

Define curse.
Define death (in the context of believing in everlasting life)

You can twist these phrases to suit whatever you want to.

[Cupradupra]

Northern Irish Christian here!

Glad to see a topic on this and great to see so many other Christians replying!

Over here we have churches that organise Car Meets with BBQ's etc and use that as a great way to meet other Christians who love cars and Jesus. It's also a great for outreach as many people who aren't Christians come along and have a great time.

In my church, we have plenty of petrolheads - One with a nice XKr, Range Rover Overfinch, CLA AMG, myself with my 208 GTi to name but a few!

As it has been mentioned before on this topic regarding persecution and making fun of Christians, if it were a topic on homosexual people who love cars or Muslims who love cars, etc and people went on and posted as they have here, it wouldn't be too long before the thread was closed and users were banned...

To those Christians who have posted, good on you!

[C.A.R.]

I was christened as a baby but that's more because it was the 'done thing' - none of my family is particularly religious.

I actually resent it a bit, not being given a choice and all that. But for the claptrap that it is and what it stands for, it can simply be ignored - it's not like I'm branded for life or anything.

Now a father of 2 young daughters we were often asked (and still are ocassionally) when we will be getting the youngest christened.

Er, never. Unless; when she's old enough to understand fact from fiction, make here own concious and informed decision to follow a faith, then so be it!

I'll not go on more because I appreciate I fit the PH; "politically-right-leaning and arrogant" stereotype quite well, but I'm a firm believer that there's no such thing as 'good' religion.

[Mopey]

NeMiSiS said:

I think I will become a Christian later on in life, much later on, just in case, hedge my bets a bit - is that allowed ?

Let someone else do the spade work and then I will jump on the bandwagon at the last minute, and get a cheap ticket sort of thing.

Not sure it works like that- though you often hear it spoken about. If it was a genuine faith in Christ as your saviour then yes even if it was on your death bed, but hedging your bets is not really what the bible would describe as faith.

[Mopey]

DrSteveBrule said:

Low Pro said:

I understand that some of you guys really have a issue with Christ, but ask questions if you really want to know more.

I've got a question:

If we were eating lunch and you started to choke on some food, would you want me to carry out the Heimlich manoeuvre or pray?

Just because you have a belief that God can heal you so therefore pray, It doesn't mean switching off your head. Of course you would use the heimlich manoeuvre if someone choked.
Just as if I'm ill I will see the doctor it might be that by those means I get better. I will pray also, but it's not exclusively one or the other.

[Nimby]

I was an atheist until I got a car with a catholythic converter.

[ciege]

Christian here...

Once a TVR owner
Once a Landrover Series owner
Once a Reliant Scimitar owner

Still a booze hound
Still like naked ladies which apparently you can find on the internet

Have a brother in law who is gay and wonderful

Have some really cool atheistic and muslim most other faiths who are great to be around

Love discussing my faith with everyone...

Jesus arrived, said lots of really simple stuff which made sense (to me)
Revealed himself by getting everyone drunk at a wedding

Choose the women to as the primary witnesses to many of his miracles.

Said you can never earn your way into heaven

Said no one is better than anyone else ever

Said only God could judge as no-one else would ever be qualified to judge you

Seems pretty straightforward and simple to me...

I follow Jesus, I'm not religious..!!!

[Goaty Bill 2]

DrSteveBrule said:

I've got a question:

If we were eating lunch and you started to choke on some food, would you want me to carry out the Heimlich manoeuvre or pray?

I think this sort of question stems more from television dramas than reality, but accepting that the question certainly has come up in the real world.
The precept being that a Christian will pray for God to heal him rather than accept treatment from a doctor?
There may well be Christian sects that follow such teachings, but I think most people would argue that the availability of a doctor that can/may heal you, would be the answer to any such prayers.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are often portrayed as refusing medical intervention, but as I understand it, this pertains principally (perhaps solely) to blood transfusions (which of course are often part of any surgical procedure).

ETA
You only have to count the numbers of Jewish and Muslim doctors, to get a feel for where they generally seem to stand on the question.

Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Monday 27th June 14:26

[ciege]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

I think this sort of question stems more from television dramas than reality, but accepting that the question certainly has come up in the real world.
The precept being that a Christian will pray for God to heal him rather than accept treatment from a doctor?
There may well be Christian sects that follow such teachings, but I think most people would argue that the availability of a doctor that can/may heal you, would be the answer to any such prayers.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are often portrayed as refusing medical intervention, but as I understand it, this pertains principally (perhaps solely) to blood transfusions (which of course are often part of any surgical procedure).

Yes, as above, naturally you'd want the expert.

However, as I believe in God, I believe God gives gifts to us all, even those who don't thank him.

[andrewrob]

NeMiSiS said:

andrewrob said:

NeMiSiS said:

andrewrob said:

Surely something on PCP would work?

Another one here, and quite a few of my friends from church are petrol heads too.
Have just come back from a christian event and there was a nice lineup of cars on display, so we don't all drive boring stuff like Peugeot 307s and Vauxhall Zafiras (although most seem to)

What is a Christian event - tell me more, please.

It's all on here http://thegatheringformen.com/

100 quid to shoot bow and arrows and listen to someone reading from the bible, deal me out, thanks for the insight though.

Haha no worries, to be fair its £55 if booked early, the price goes up later to urge people to book earlier so they know numbers in time to arrange the correct size marquees, number of toilets etc far in advance.

I go for free for doing filming bits for them, free food too which was a bonus. Although same weekend as FOS two years in a row isn't good!

[Eric Mc]

ciege said:

Christian here...

Once a TVR owner
Once a Landrover Series owner
Once a Reliant Scimitar owner

Still a booze hound
Still like naked ladies which apparently you can find on the internet

Have a brother in law who is gay and wonderful

Have some really cool atheistic and muslim most other faiths who are great to be around

Love discussing my faith with everyone...

Jesus arrived, said lots of really simple stuff which made sense (to me)
Revealed himself by getting everyone drunk at a wedding

Choose the women to as the primary witnesses to many of his miracles.

Said you can never earn your way into heaven

Said no one is better than anyone else ever

Said only God could judge as no-one else would ever be qualified to judge you

Seems pretty straightforward and simple to me...

I follow Jesus, I'm not religious..!!!

Agree with practically everything in that list - apart from your choice of cars.

[Goaty Bill 2]

Eric Mc said:

Agree with practically everything in that list - apart from your choice of cars.

We could be witnessing the beginnings of another schism...

[Mr. H]

Another one here.

If anyone has questions or wants to know a bit more then a good book I can recommend is Tim Keller: The Reason for God.
It goes through the most common objections to Christianity and talks about them and the Christian perspective on each. Reading it may not change your opinion but it will help you to better understand both why people don't believe and why people do believe.

[anonymous-user]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

DrSteveBrule said:

I've got a question:

If we were eating lunch and you started to choke on some food, would you want me to carry out the Heimlich manoeuvre or pray?

I think this sort of question stems more from television dramas than reality, but accepting that the question certainly has come up in the real world.
The precept being that a Christian will pray for God to heal him rather than accept treatment from a doctor? ]

No, the point being who has the greater power. I, an antitheist, would be physically able to save a life but if their god is merciful and omnipresent a quick prayer by the choking person should be enough right? I shouldn't need to intervene.

This could lead onto a discussion on creation vs evolution and why, if we were created, do we have such a faliable system for breathing and eating...

[Eric Mc]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

Eric Mc said:

Agree with practically everything in that list - apart from your choice of cars.

We could be witnessing the beginnings of another schism...

No. 10,542 in a series of (any number you want)

[mickk]

Eric Mc said:

ciege said:

Christian here...

Once a TVR owner
Once a Landrover Series owner
Once a Reliant Scimitar owner

Still a booze hound
Still like naked ladies which apparently you can find on the internet

Have a brother in law who is gay and wonderful

Have some really cool atheistic and muslim most other faiths who are great to be around

Love discussing my faith with everyone...

Jesus arrived, said lots of really simple stuff which made sense (to me)
Revealed himself by getting everyone drunk at a wedding

Choose the women to as the primary witnesses to many of his miracles.

Said you can never earn your way into heaven

Said no one is better than anyone else ever

Said only God could judge as no-one else would ever be qualified to judge you

Seems pretty straightforward and simple to me...

I follow Jesus, I'm not religious..!!!

Agree with practically everything in that list - apart from your choice of cars.

Heretic!