Dealing with a complete tit

[davhill]

Blue Oval84 said:

OP - read this.

If they didn't follow the section 20 to the letter then you may not have to pay.

We recently had an S20 notice at my block, it triggers several weeks of work, three quotes, right of the tennants to suggest contractors etc. If the management company had failed to follow it then we wouldn't have had to pay.

I read about a Housing Association somewhere that didn't do this properly, they were left with the bill.

He's covered the Section 20 side to the nth degree. It was covered in a tenants meeting I couldn't attend.

[Wings]

Any repair works that involve costs totally more than £250 per leasehold property, require the Property Management Company (hereafter PMC) to follow the Section 20 procedure. The same involving full consultation with leaseholders, that is the full identification of works to be carried out, selecting three (3) reputable contractors for quotations, and once the same is obtained, the leaseholders then being allowed to choose the successful contractor etc.

Rogue PMC invariably fail to follow the Section 20 procedures, since many either operate their own building, gardening contractors etc. etc., and/or so are on a financial kick back. Property building insurance is possibly the PMC's biggest money earners, scams, where many PMCs operate their own insurance brokers, and rather than seek several quotes, PMCs to obtain commission, financial inducement will simply increase insurer's premiums by as much as 200%.

Section 21 allows any leaseholder to enquire of their freeholder or PMC, a copy of the property's building insurance certificate, do this OP and witness the RIP off that the majority of leaseholders are oblivious to!

http://www.lease-advice.org.uk/information/faqs/pr...

Check for Lease, Articles of Association, Directors etc. etc. via Companies House

[Leptons]

Send him a bill for the entire cost of the Flats rental upto the estimated date of work completion. State that you cannot rent it out as the parking space is all part of the deal and you would be false advertising.

[davhill]

Leptons said:

Send him a bill for the entire cost of the Flats rental upto the estimated date of work completion. State that you cannot rent it out as the parking space is all part of the deal and you would be false advertising.

Thanks, Leptons,

Seeing as how this buffoon is making me operate in direct contradiction to my online advertisements, I'll be getting on the case tomorrow.

Edited by davhill on Wednesday 29th June 14:19

[Blue Oval84]

davhill said:

He's covered the Section 20 side to the nth degree. It was covered in a tenants meeting I couldn't attend.

I'm confused how he could cover it in a meeting? It's a written consultation process. If you weren't included, and didn't receive the correct documents (a bill with 8 days notice is not the correct document) then he didn't follow it surely?

http://www.lease-advice.org/faq/what-is-the-sectio...

[pork911]

Why would your ex-to-be have been onto the CAB?

[davhill]

Blue Oval84 said:

I'm confused how he could cover it in a meeting? It's a written consultation process. If you weren't included, and didn't receive the correct documents (a bill with 8 days notice is not the correct document) then he didn't follow it surely?

http://www.lease-advice.org/faq/what-is-the-sectio...

He sent this: 'Section 20 Notice of Intention as defined in the Landlord & Tenant Act 1985' which is dated 12 Feb 2016. I received this. together with year-end accounts for '14 and '15. which I had requested. He also sent a revised Section 20 budget (clear as mud) and a project plan (ditto).This is the only documenthissotation I saw.

I first got wind of all this in the form of an invoice dated 20th May 2016 - this is what the ex-to-be forwarded to me on the 4th May 2016. This is what he claimed to haves ent directly to me but he didn't do so.I naturally deferred paying the £1,250 until the 20th May, in spite of his overt threats about recovering monies.

Re the Section 20 notice and quotes, I quote him as follows...

'Re questions on the Section 20 there is a formal legal process for questions in the 30 day period after the notice. Once this period ends that is the close of questions from leaseholders.
As long as the board has chosen the lower of the two quotations there is no further obligation to make any more comment. I can confirm the lower of the two quotations was chosen'

My plan now is to get hold of a copy of the lease to look with particular reference to the parking spot.

Incidentally, ex-to-be had a good outcome with the aid of the CAB over an entirely different matter. She has a 50% interest in the flat and I don't want to be sorting out this st with no input from her side.

[DonkeyApple]

davhill said:

It's a bugger isn't it? The work is schduled for completion first week in October - bang on as far as high holiday season goes. Given the Brexit bks has put a big hole in the bookings this year, I can't be arsed, what with the divorce too (1st hearing 9th Sept). I now I'm not the ony one put out but I've other fish to fry.

How many of the 20 units are owner occupier and how many holiday rentals? The answer to that may be the answer to why you are being treated as you are.

They will have almost certainly been on site in the run up and residents will have spoken to them. You would have expected residents to then highlight the newbie/holiday letter as the best fall guy.

[Cotty]

torch the office

[andy-xr]

It sounds to me that you're pinning a lot of this on your ex wife if I'm honest and the communication from the 'tit' to the ex wife that you havent been included in.

Sorry to go against the grain, while the tit might not be exact with what and how he's done things, it doesnt sound like you can string him up by his undercrackers

[JQ]

davhill said:

It can't go round the corner (in a visitor parking spot) because the toilet emptying wagon can't get round there. 'because of the scaffolding'.

Why not just ask for one of the visitor spots to be permanently reserved for your customers?

[davhill]

JQ said:

Why not just ask for one of the visitor spots to be permanently reserved for your customers?

Because the tit won't let me.

[davhill]

andy-xr said:

It sounds to me that you're pinning a lot of this on your ex wife if I'm honest and the communication from the 'tit' to the ex wife that you havent been included in.

Sorry to go against the grain, while the tit might not be exact with what and how he's done things, it doesnt sound like you can string him up by his undercrackers

Well,ex-to-be hasn't updated me yet and I don't expect much from CAB anyway.

I think it's got personal as regards the tit. Most of the flats are owner occupied but one other does holiday rentals on a fairly casual basis.

I've been on to the agent who did the conveyancing, in search of the lease. Meanwhile, ttty McTitface hasn't replied.

[jshell]

davhill said:

Given the Brexit bks has put a big hole in the bookings this year, I can't be arsed

Why? Should be cheaper for people from outside the UK and same price for within...

[LaurasOtherHalf]

davhill said:

Leptons said:

Send him a bill for the entire cost of the Flats rental upto the estimated date of work completion. State that you cannot rent it out as the parking space is all part of the deal and you would be false advertising.

Thanks, Leptons,

Seeing as how this buffoon is making me operate in direct contradiction to my online advertisements, I'll be getting on the case tomorrow.

Edited by davhill on Wednesday 29th June 14:19

This would be my first port of call, I'd get a solicitor to draught an invoice up mind you-should be worth the £100 or so it would cost. My only point would be not to invoice for the cost of the rent, I'd get my solicitor to charge some arbitrary amount-£150 a day should cover it for the entire time your property (parking space) is occupied.

[Du1point8]

Just to clarify... you have got the management company letter to state the freeholder allows you to let the property out?

Unfortunately I have seen it before when an owner didnt ask and then is up st creek... as it then costs a few hundred on top to get the permission.

[surveyor]

Ahh... Management companies. and leasholders. fking leaseholders.

While the Leaseholders don't like their Management Companies, trust me the feeling is mutual, and for good reason....

[davhill]

jshell said:

Why? Should be cheaper for people from outside the UK and same price for within...

I can only report what's happening. My take on is that the turmoil has been/is making people feel financially insecure and therefore cautious.

[davhill]

Du1point8 said:

Just to clarify... you have got the management company letter to state the freeholder allows you to let the property out?

Unfortunately I have seen it before when an owner didnt ask and then is up st creek... as it then costs a few hundred on top to get the permission.

We bought the flat in early '09 for my elderly Mum. When she passed away in mid '10, I started the business. I squared it with the in - house managers then and this was long before the tit appeared. Everyone involved knows it's a Hol let and has been for six years. It's been rated as business premises for most of this time.

[mike74]

Out of order blocking your allocated parking space... as for everything else, suck it up, that's what comes with the territory of owning a leasehold property and renting it out.