Dealing with a complete tit
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Hmm, a little peep at the other side, interesting.
Buying the flat was a hurried exercise. Mum was in a care home which she loathed. I just established what was in on the deal.
The maintenance charge covers external maintenance, decorating, etc and all was fine...until tit took over. The water damage was partially tile slippage and partly 'cos the exterior decorators left a downspout disconnected and I had to swallow the consequential costs. That's tit all over but his high - handed attitude really gets up my trunk.
If I 'win' in the divorce court, she'll be taking over the flat and probably selling up. At least it'll be 100% shipshape after all the works.
Buying the flat was a hurried exercise. Mum was in a care home which she loathed. I just established what was in on the deal.
The maintenance charge covers external maintenance, decorating, etc and all was fine...until tit took over. The water damage was partially tile slippage and partly 'cos the exterior decorators left a downspout disconnected and I had to swallow the consequential costs. That's tit all over but his high - handed attitude really gets up my trunk.
If I 'win' in the divorce court, she'll be taking over the flat and probably selling up. At least it'll be 100% shipshape after all the works.
Edited by davhill on Thursday 30th June 14:39
By way of an update, here's a pic of the site office completely blocking my parking space. You can just make out the
shadow of the figure 2 that marks the space - it's under the drawbar.
I contacted the solicitor who did the conveyancing in '09.I understand the lease copy should be with me early next week.
Meanwhile, the Tit replied to my challenge, with no copy of the leasing showing that the space can't be hijacked in this way. He;s now bleating about all the leases being different, etc.
I can see what he's up to, wanting to put a further spoke in my business's wheel.However, I squared business use before starting letting in Sept '10. I did this with the then committee. They had no problem with it and there's now six years' precedent and the premises has been rated as a business for that time. This is long before the tit was employed by the committee.
I've had a word with the solicitor about any necessary change to the lease.
shadow of the figure 2 that marks the space - it's under the drawbar.
I contacted the solicitor who did the conveyancing in '09.I understand the lease copy should be with me early next week.
Meanwhile, the Tit replied to my challenge, with no copy of the leasing showing that the space can't be hijacked in this way. He;s now bleating about all the leases being different, etc.
I can see what he's up to, wanting to put a further spoke in my business's wheel.However, I squared business use before starting letting in Sept '10. I did this with the then committee. They had no problem with it and there's now six years' precedent and the premises has been rated as a business for that time. This is long before the tit was employed by the committee.
I've had a word with the solicitor about any necessary change to the lease.
DonkeyApple said:
Still confused.
- Why can't you place signage on that cabin explaining to clients to use a visitor bay while signing up a visitor bay as your private space? The other residents won't stop you from doing that for the duration.
- As asked before, how many of the 20 units are owner occupiers? That may have a significant bearing on why your space was selected and why the agent is quite comfortable.
- Why are you wholly unable to modify electronic advertisements?
- Are you absolutely sure you want another battle in your life right now?
- What advantage can you create from this inconvenience? For example, with regards to your divorce, any benefits from being able to drop the valuation due to fallen yield or raise it due to the uplift from the works etc?
The tit won't let me reserve a visitor spot. All I can do is advise when I send out booking confirmations.- Why can't you place signage on that cabin explaining to clients to use a visitor bay while signing up a visitor bay as your private space? The other residents won't stop you from doing that for the duration.
- As asked before, how many of the 20 units are owner occupiers? That may have a significant bearing on why your space was selected and why the agent is quite comfortable.
- Why are you wholly unable to modify electronic advertisements?
- Are you absolutely sure you want another battle in your life right now?
- What advantage can you create from this inconvenience? For example, with regards to your divorce, any benefits from being able to drop the valuation due to fallen yield or raise it due to the uplift from the works etc?
To the best of my knowledge, most of the flats are owner occupied. There's one other holiday let and one flat that's unoccupied most of the time. One woman has no car but she bleats if I park near her space for 5 mins.
Why should I have to rejig my online ads? I don't have direct access to many and changes can take weeks to filter through. More trouble than it's worth and liable to lose bookings...parking in town is at a premium...I bought premises with off street parking for this reason.
No, I don't need another battle but it came to me. I'm normally Mr. Reasonable but you've seen the circumstances.
The only advantage is that the flat should become worth more through being in a pristine building. Oddly, even though it can be remunerative, the business has zero value in itself, only the flat itself can be valued.
Thank you for the input though.
Edited by davhill on Sunday 3rd July 15:36
OMNIO said:
I may of course be wrong on everything and I am happy to be proved wrong as I have made assumptions. Like you I haven't read the lease…. 
I suppose a couple of the forums resident property managers will be wound up and unsympathetic as we deal with people like you all the time. You have no idea about the terms of your lease but it's all the management companies fault.
I do agree though that the management company should be telling you the terms of the lease and what they are up to rather than being so abrupt.
It isn't in my interest to wind up anyone but it seems to be in the interest of this particular property manager to wind me up. And people like me? I beg your pardon but who's been discommoded? I did nothing other than to insist on what's righfully mine. You've all seen the picture. I suppose a couple of the forums resident property managers will be wound up and unsympathetic as we deal with people like you all the time. You have no idea about the terms of your lease but it's all the management companies fault. I do agree though that the management company should be telling you the terms of the lease and what they are up to rather than being so abrupt.
After a third lease-chasing call to the solicitor I called the Land Registry. I've just downloaded and completed a form OC2. It has on it the address, title number and the date of the lease. In the envelope with it is a cheque for £7, the fee for a copy of my lease.
Given that the tit keeps advising what the lease says, it's reasonable to expect he has a copy. Will he send me one? No. Does he quote from the terms of the lease? No.
I suggest you consider who's acted reasonably and who continues to be rude and obstructive. Were it not for this attitude, the matter would have progressed by now, if not been sorted out.
NinjaPower said:
???
I'm pretty sure you can pay a fee online and instantly download a copy of your lease from Land Registry?
Thanks. Unfortunately not. The Land Registry will only accept payment by cheque, there's no mechanism to accommodate online or bank transfer payment.I'm pretty sure you can pay a fee online and instantly download a copy of your lease from Land Registry?
As it happened, my call paid dividends. Giving the information to the solicitor's clerk let her track down the lease I'd signed seven years ago. I sent £3 by BACS transfer and a copy lease should be with me tomorrow.
Well, here's an update.
I finally got hold of a copy of the lease, via the conveyancing solicitor - it cost me £3. The premises I bought, including the garden, the barbecue area and the parking spot are all demised to me and clearly marked on the plan.
The lease also refers to a right of way (including the parking space, including vehicles where appropriate). It also refers (as regards during works) to 'abating nuisance'.
I've written to the solicitor, the gist being 'shift it now' and offer me something for the time and trouble occasioned and the deleterious effect on my business (which is allowed anyway).
I finally got hold of a copy of the lease, via the conveyancing solicitor - it cost me £3. The premises I bought, including the garden, the barbecue area and the parking spot are all demised to me and clearly marked on the plan.
The lease also refers to a right of way (including the parking space, including vehicles where appropriate). It also refers (as regards during works) to 'abating nuisance'.
I've written to the solicitor, the gist being 'shift it now' and offer me something for the time and trouble occasioned and the deleterious effect on my business (which is allowed anyway).
Edited by davhill on Friday 8th July 02:22
elanfan said:
And once you get it sorted are you going to try to get him sacked - he deserves it?
He's been advised (with relevant quotes) that he's clearly acted in breach of the terms of the lease. I sent the e-mail days ago and CC'd the solicitor. Guess what...no reply and the trailer thing's still there.
surveyor said:
It's not the right attitude, but what are you going to do about it? Your options are really quite limited....
There's essentially foxtrot alpha I can do about it. I've told the bloke that he'll hear from my sol/r if the thing isn't shifted pronto but that's it.What about one of those locking butt plug things that stop folk nicking trailers? Snag is, one would stop the thing being moved. Just in the mood to add hassle for him.
V6Pushfit said:
All sounds like a storm in a teacup to me. Let them get on with it there doesn't sound like a huge amount of work so they should be finished soon, the financial side is cut and dried and it's a shame you missed the leaseholders meeting as everything would have been explained. You must bear in mind this building work is necessary to maintain the property and your interest in it.
As earlier posts I have experienced many irate leaseholders who also just don't seem to get it. It's just as bad when it's found the annual maintenance fund payments are way below what they should be and LH's don't like increasing to meet anticipated future expenditure or in fact build up the fund at all. They love paying f
k all until it's found that there's only £25 in the pot to pay for a new roof.
IMHO anyone buying a flat should understand exactly how much is in the fund and what future maintenance expenditure is necessary. Anyone buying a cheap flat in a converted house with no fund and in poor external condition needs sectioning.
No doubt you'd think differently if your premises/business were affected. Would you be happy? I doubt it.As earlier posts I have experienced many irate leaseholders who also just don't seem to get it. It's just as bad when it's found the annual maintenance fund payments are way below what they should be and LH's don't like increasing to meet anticipated future expenditure or in fact build up the fund at all. They love paying f
k all until it's found that there's only £25 in the pot to pay for a new roof.IMHO anyone buying a flat should understand exactly how much is in the fund and what future maintenance expenditure is necessary. Anyone buying a cheap flat in a converted house with no fund and in poor external condition needs sectioning.
AFAIK, the works go on until 7th Oct at best...it's no small task. The other day, there were only three of the parking spots available...all the undercover ones are closed off and five of the visitor spots were full of skips, a tool cabinet thingy and plant. Remember there are 20 flats.
Lastly, please credit me with the intelligence to know an 1875 building will need work.
V6Pushfit said:
I would ask the site agent nicely to move it onto the grass right next to it. Job done.
In the meantime you've got leases at £3 and CAB, solicitors and uncle tom cobbley all pissed off with a trivial issue you should have resolved yourself, plus of course 5 pages on here.
Go out there and ask them to move it
The ones that are pissed off are the residents...I've offered the use of the tree by the parking spot for the lynching.In the meantime you've got leases at £3 and CAB, solicitors and uncle tom cobbley all pissed off with a trivial issue you should have resolved yourself, plus of course 5 pages on here.
Go out there and ask them to move it
FYI, I put the move it onto the grass idea forward weeks ago...someone on here had suggested it. No dice, not even a reply. Pigs 'n' grunts.
FYI 2, it was the ex-to-be (joint owner) who approached the CAB, not me. I called the Land Registry and the conveyancing solicitor. I have one lease at £3, courtesy of the sol's receptionist...no other charges imposed...I even got advice from the sol in two calls.
FYI 3 If it's made 5 pages it must be worth it...the mods are watching.
And a bit of advice about the 'C' word. Criticise by all means, just think 'constructive' first.
poo at Paul's said:
if that office is a rented bit of kit, call the rental company and tell them to come and shift ig from YOUR property. Send them the lease and say it is there without permission
That's a good idea. I must wait 'cos the communal Sky signal 's gone intermittent. I may need a favour from management.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff