Dealing with a complete tit

Dealing with a complete tit

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carreauchompeur

17,852 posts

205 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Argh, if I get the chance in the future I won't be buying anything leasehold. Every year when I get the ransom note, sorry invoice from the management company it grinds my gears. Internal costs in the block are fine, and very sensible, but then living on private roads they find all sorts of entirely spurious ste to charge for.

A recent intervention saw this external fee drop by about 50%. No explanation. Robbing bds.

sideways sid

1,371 posts

216 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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davhill said:
...I rent the flat out and the building needed some fairly urgent repair work.

Cue the company demanding £1,250...
I'm a bit confused.

The building needs repairing. The Property Management Company is repairing it. You don't live in it, but rent it out as a holiday let, but do not say that it is currently let, and do not say whether the works will still be taking place when your first guests arrive.

The trailer/office/toilet was put in the unoccupied parking space of one of two absent landlords but there are visitors spaces available for your guests.

So, not really sure what the problem is or what you propose the solution should be, apart from putting the trailer in a visitor parking space.

Is the Property Manager seeing your ex per chance?

smile

andy-xr

13,204 posts

205 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Storm in a B-Cup??

davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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sideways sid said:
Is the Property Manager seeing your ex per chance?

smile
If he is, he'll lose the will to live soon enough.

Think of it this way. I let the flat to you for a week. You show up, secure in the knowledge that your prized Nissan/Alfa/Bentley will go in a special spot that is overlooked by the flat. But it's full of a big ugly box. So, you hear of the visitor parking, thread your pride & joy carefully past the scaffolding and there's no free spot. How long before you start seeking a refund or sue me for false advertising?

The flat is currently unoccupied but the booking system is permanently live via Tripadvisor and the flat's own website.

Edited by davhill on Wednesday 29th June 15:49

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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This is one problem that will not trouble Brad Pitt.


avinalarf

6,438 posts

143 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Surely if the tit was complete it would be one of a a pair and thus make it tits and not tit.

surveyor

17,845 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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avinalarf said:
Surely if the tit was complete it would be one of a a pair and thus make it tits and not tit.
There is likely two tits involved here....

davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Ah, semantics. Don't be misled - I was referring to how much of a tit he's being, I included a quantification of the magnitude if his tittery.

Perhaps I should've used a descriptor that is singular by definition. Nevertheless, were he a knob or an arse hole, he'd still be a complete one.

Edited by davhill on Wednesday 29th June 19:54

KAgantua

3,886 posts

132 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Have you read your lease? What does it say?

elanfan

5,520 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Get the owners together and then sack the management company and get a better one

davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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KAgantua said:
Have you read your lease? What does it say?
I'm in the process of tracking down a copy from the conveyancing solicitor.

I can tell you for certain it won't say my property can be abused without consultation let alone permission and my business can be undermined. I've invited the tit to send me a copy with those bits highlighted.

surveyor

17,845 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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I'd be interested in how your car parking space is defined. Is it a specific space red lined, or just a space to be assigned from time to time....

davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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surveyor said:
I'd be interested in how your car parking space is defined. Is it a specific space red lined, or just a space to be assigned from time to time....
It's a single space, the end one of three in a brick - paved area. It's clearly marked with the flat's number.

The other dedicated spots are similarly marked and are under the building.

The front lawn also belongs to the flat. There's a communal path across it to a fenced-in area where the bins live.

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Do the accounts not make a provision like a sinking fund for such costs?

davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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DoubleSix said:
Do the accounts not make a provision like a sinking fund for such costs?
I very much doubt it. Tit's like cerberus over monies. In a previous skirmish, water ingress led to mould growing on my studded walls - got complaints. Tit wouldn't contribute to redecorating despite bad exterior maintenance having caused the problem. Now, the dry lining in all the flats is the owner's responsibility come what may. Typical attitude of his.

surveyor

17,845 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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davhill said:
surveyor said:
I'd be interested in how your car parking space is defined. Is it a specific space red lined, or just a space to be assigned from time to time....
It's a single space, the end one of three in a brick - paved area. It's clearly marked with the flat's number.

The other dedicated spots are similarly marked and are under the building.

The front lawn also belongs to the flat. There's a communal path across it to a fenced-in area where the bins live.
In the lease. Does not matter what's on the ground.

davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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surveyor said:
In the lease. Does not matter what's on the ground.
I'll update when I get a copy.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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surveyor said:
While the Leaseholders don't like their Management Companies, trust me the feeling is mutual, and for good reason....
+1

I managed leasehold properties for 7 years, and despite me being a very straightforward, honest, and reasonable manager, the residents behaved like utter bellends towards me most of the time, despite them being legally in the wrong about 99% of the time.

Apparently I was stealing from them, overcharging them, breaking the law, breaking the contract, lying to them, making them ill, being dishonest, fabricating false documents... You name it, apparently I did it to them.

Out of the 480-ish properties I managed, only a handful of residents actually knew what was in their lease. The rest just made it all up in their heads.

Once you had argued with them for over an hour about the legality of charging them for something, and proved them to be wrong by clearly reading the appropriate clause of the lease to them, they would go off in one about how 'no one told them it would be like this' when they bought their property... Apparently that was my fault as well... Not their solicitor who is paid to point all these things out to them during the purchase... rolleyes

One of my best days at work ever was when a group of about 25 leaseholders from a block took me to a Leasehold Tribunal because I was trying to charge them about £3000 each for replacement of their flat Windows, external doors and repairs to the roofs and gutterings all over the block. When all came to all the Tribubal basically told them all that they were idiots who should read their leases properly, and that yes, they had to pay for the works smile it was a glorious moment as they had spent the previous couple of months eagerly telling me that they couldn't wait to have justice served on the big bad management company who was trying to steal £3000 from them.

If I ever got someone phoning up the office and saying that they were interested in buying a flat, I would make it very clear to them that whatever happened, they would have to pay for absolutely everything and the freeholder pays for nothing... But as sure as st, they would be at a residents meeting a year later expressing absolute shock and horror that we were asking them to pay maintenance costs for something.

Never again.

Edited by NinjaPower on Wednesday 29th June 23:37

davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

185 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Hmm, a little peep at the other side, interesting.

Buying the flat was a hurried exercise. Mum was in a care home which she loathed. I just established what was in on the deal.

The maintenance charge covers external maintenance, decorating, etc and all was fine...until tit took over. The water damage was partially tile slippage and partly 'cos the exterior decorators left a downspout disconnected and I had to swallow the consequential costs. That's tit all over but his high - handed attitude really gets up my trunk.

If I 'win' in the divorce court, she'll be taking over the flat and probably selling up. At least it'll be 100% shipshape after all the works.

Edited by davhill on Thursday 30th June 14:39

davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

185 months

Saturday 2nd July 2016
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By way of an update, here's a pic of the site office completely blocking my parking space. You can just make out the
shadow of the figure 2 that marks the space - it's under the drawbar.



I contacted the solicitor who did the conveyancing in '09.I understand the lease copy should be with me early next week.

Meanwhile, the Tit replied to my challenge, with no copy of the leasing showing that the space can't be hijacked in this way. He;s now bleating about all the leases being different, etc.

I can see what he's up to, wanting to put a further spoke in my business's wheel.However, I squared business use before starting letting in Sept '10. I did this with the then committee. They had no problem with it and there's now six years' precedent and the premises has been rated as a business for that time. This is long before the tit was employed by the committee.

I've had a word with the solicitor about any necessary change to the lease.