RE: All-new Porsche Panamera revealed

RE: All-new Porsche Panamera revealed

Saturday 2nd July 2016

All-new Porsche Panamera revealed

Sleeker, sportier, more high tech - emboldened new Panamera looks like a force to be reckoned with



After being teased in a run up the hill at the Goodwood Festival of Speed full information and pictures of the all-new, second-generation Porsche Panamera have now been released. And here it is!


Where to start? Let's go with the looks. If the proportions and general design themes don't look like a huge step on from the existing car, closer examination reveals a significant increase in confidence, with bolder detailing, smoother proportions and a decided step towards the sportier end of the luxury saloon/coupe sector. By the numbers there's a little more wheelbase (+30mm) pushing the front axle forward and reducing the front overhang, plus an additional 35mm overall adding up to 5,050mm. It's 5mm wider and taller too but the roof swoops more drastically and is 20mm lower over the rear compartment for a sleeker look. Headroom is said to be improved at the same time.

These are relatively minor tweaks to the overall proportions but they make a big difference. If not conventionally beautiful it's definitely impressive and much more comfortable in its own skin than the outgoing car, which evolved from relatively tentative beginnings into something more assertive. This carries that theme to new extremes, though most people will probably notice the bigger side vents and 718 Boxster/Cayman style rear lighting strip before they take in the overall changes.

Engines take a decided step to the more powerful too, the V6 and V8 petrols derived from units also seen in recent Audis and adopting the 'hot-V' format of turbos between the cylinder banks now seen in many modern motors. The 440hp 2.9-litre twin-turbo V6 in the Panamera 4S is up 20hp on its current equivalent and has 407lb ft of torque between 1,750rpm and 5,500rpm.


Thinking you were ready to kick the diesel habit? The 422hp V8 in the Panamera 4S Diesel may have you reconsidering, the 627lb ft of torque helping deliver a 4.3-second 0-62 (with optional Sport Chrono), 178mph, 41.5 of your official mpg and CO2 of 178g/km. Even the Cayenne Diesel S looks a little under-endowed in comparison and Porsche claims it will be - for now - the world's fastest production diesel car. Tech-wise it's got some clever stuff going on, including two variable vane turbos configured sequentially, the second not kicking in until 2,700rpm.

Big daddy remains the petrol turbo though, now with contra-rotating inboard twinscroll turbos to help deliver 550hp and monstrous torque of 568lb ft from just 1,950rpm. That's 10hp down on the outgoing Turbo S but the torque comes in sooner and with Sport Chrono the new Turbo is two tenths faster to 62mph than the outgoing S at 3.6 seconds, both cars topping out at 192mph. As the range expands there will no doubt be a new Turbo S to follow too, just in case these figures leave you feeling a little short-changed. Further additions are yet to be confirmed but you'd have to expect an entry level V6 petrol, a hybrid and perhaps a six-cylinder diesel too. Don't hold your hopes out for a naturally-aspirated 4.8-litre V8 GTS like the one we've been enjoying the last few days though.

So much for the performance, which you'd expect to be suitably impressive. Perhaps even more significant is the interior, which marks a huge step forward for Porsche and puts the Panamera in an entirely different league compared to anything else in the current range. Yes folks, it looks like Audi may have been usurped as the lazy motoring hack's interior quality benchmark of choice!


The basic look and layout are familiar. But the application of technology is a huge step forward, touch-sensitive controls replacing the button-intensive set-up used by all current Porsches. The signature central rev counter remains an analogue dial but the rest is all digital, based around two seven-inch displays either side and a central 12.3-inch touchscreen in the centre. This really is next level stuff and a serious wake-up call to luxury cars across the board, putting Porsche at the very head of the pack in terms of technology, style and the kind of surprise and delight interaction modern luxury cars can offer. Yes, we've only got the pictures to go on. But even from these it looks like it'll be giving rival products some serious night sweats.

If, at first glance, the new Panamera looks to be more of the same when you delve deeper the significance of the changes to design, tech and stature are much more significant. If the first Panamera was something of a finger in the wind this new one brims with new-found confidence and sees Porsche properly asserting itself in the luxury saloon sector. We look forward to seeing it in the metal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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wtdoom

Original Poster:

3,742 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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I love it . Incoming !

MDMA .

8,884 posts

101 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Liked the old one, love this one.

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Turbo is quicker around the 'ring than the Carrera GT party

LP670

822 posts

126 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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vulgar but then i think the same of all porsche offerings these days

sidewinder500

1,138 posts

94 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Uh uh, expected it to be less ugly than this.
Very dissapointing to look at, may be capable but to really enjoy waaaay too big and unwielding, like all these super uber power luxo barges
not my cup of tea

sidewinder500

1,138 posts

94 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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And yes, vulgar, too

diluculophile

130 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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The only major problem with the last one was the looks.

In my opinion, this issue seems to have been sorted fairly conclusively.

Fugly duckling has had a makeover.

BubblesNW

1,710 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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There was a disguised one northbound on the M6 around Stoke tonight around 7 p.m. Still looks huge.

PaulJC84

924 posts

217 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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I wish they would make the sport turismo concept.

Carl_Manchester

12,165 posts

262 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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the rear end shot looks more like a 911 than the 991.2 turbo does.

bravo.

I would love to see a shooting-brake version.

EricE

1,945 posts

129 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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PaulJC84 said:
I wish they would make the sport turismo concept.
They will make a shooting brake version of this, similar to the sport turismo. A cabriolet version is also coming.

rthomp25

88 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Think it looks stunning - looking forward to seeing it in the metal.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Loving this. Would suit my needs perfectly.. Diesel v8 for me

Johnny G Pipe

267 posts

228 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Loving the interior which is the important bit of a pannie.

PH boffins should get their facts straight, though..claiming the diesel will do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds. I mean, obviously that can't be true.. biggrin

patch5674

233 posts

112 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Are there any pics of the S variants. The ones that have been seen out and about testing show that there are going to be models that have front bumpers far more like the latest Boxster/Cayman, and different exhaust configurations.

Also looks like the turbo has the spoiler that rises and slides out horizontally which the regular models don't have (apart from GTS)

This one was also seen testing alongside them. Be interesting to see what the slower* models look like

  • all things relative of course.
ETA: There are in the metal pics of all variants on Autocar rather than renders.

Edited by patch5674 on Tuesday 28th June 22:35

Piginapoke

4,754 posts

185 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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How much?

ChrisRS6

736 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Loved my panny turbo

They look so much better in flesh....and believe me for a heavy old bus they handle great and drive very dynamically.


Can t wait for some one to take a 50k bath on depreciation and I may get another in this flavour!!

ATTAK Z

10,949 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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not quite as ugly as the previous model

patch5674

233 posts

112 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Piginapoke said:
How much?
Autocrat are saying 89 grand for Petrol 4S. Diesel 4S is 92 and Turbo is 113 grand.

All of those are 'starting from' prices and depending on how Porsche play it could rise pretty rapidly.

XM5ER

5,091 posts

248 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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I really want one. The last one was ugly but a brilliant drive , this is gorgeous.