Old tech found in drawers...

Old tech found in drawers...

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Theophany

1,069 posts

130 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
Forgot all about this little puppy, still as new in its box in the loft!



It's complete with all the original box, manuals, CDs , power supply, car charger, modem, pcmcia cards, leather Filofax case, desktop dock everything.

The original invoice says I paid £380 for it back in 1999, again must be equivalent to about £1500 these days!
Crikey, 17 years ago and Microsoft are only just now properly embracing support for styluses in Windows.

nigelpugh7

6,025 posts

190 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Also found this, as we are on the subject of old mobile phone technology, a Nokia N80.



What a lovely quality thing it is, as they say they don't make them like they used too!


nigelpugh7

6,025 posts

190 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Theophany said:
Crikey, 17 years ago and Microsoft are only just now properly embracing support for styluses in Windows.
Indeed and you know what, it's actually a joy to use, despite the lack of fast Cpu and memory it just works very nicely and I had forgotten how intuitive the use of the stylus was as well!



31mph

1,308 posts

135 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
Also found this, as we are on the subject of old mobile phone technology, a Nokia N80.



What a lovely quality thing it is, as they say they don't make them like they used too!
oh very nice yes

NDA

21,559 posts

225 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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I won an Apple Newton at a golf match many years ago - the big message pad thing. I gave it away fairly recently (boxed and unused) ... perhaps it's a future classic?!

nigelpugh7

6,025 posts

190 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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NDA said:
I won an Apple Newton at a golf match many years ago - the big message pad thing. I gave it away fairly recently (boxed and unused) ... perhaps it's a future classic?!
I think you might come to regret that, I always wanted a Newton!

I used to work for a large us software company, and one of our corporate client gifts were Palm Pilots, I had a bunch of them spare, all,new and in their boxes, gave them away to mates who couldn't afford that type of tech, again I regret that now too!


Vitorio

4,296 posts

143 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
Also found this, as we are on the subject of old mobile phone technology, a Nokia N80.



What a lovely quality thing it is, as they say they don't make them like they used too!
I remember the N95 being a big hit as well, then i got an N96 right around iphone/android becoming a thing, man, did i hate that nokia.

I ended up replacing the N96 with a €99 prepaid chinese low end android phone, first and only time i replaced a phone still in contract.

Theophany

1,069 posts

130 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Vitorio said:
I remember the N95 being a big hit as well, then i got an N96 right around iphone/android becoming a thing, man, did i hate that nokia.

I ended up replacing the N96 with a €99 prepaid chinese low end android phone, first and only time i replaced a phone still in contract.
The last of the top end Nokias were appalling, I maintain that if they'd adopted Android from the off instead of trying desperately to make that godawful Symbian OS something it wasn't they'd still be in the game today.

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Theophany said:
Vitorio said:
I remember the N95 being a big hit as well, then i got an N96 right around iphone/android becoming a thing, man, did i hate that nokia.

I ended up replacing the N96 with a €99 prepaid chinese low end android phone, first and only time i replaced a phone still in contract.
The last of the top end Nokias were appalling, I maintain that if they'd adopted Android from the off instead of trying desperately to make that godawful Symbian OS something it wasn't they'd still be in the game today.
The last of the top end Nokias? If you mean the "true" Nokias, like the 808 or N9, those devices brought what is still the best stills camera on a mobile (808) and the best touch screen interface (N9). Build quality on both was beyond reproach.

Android would not have been a solution. Nokias problem was their godawful management. Just bringing in Android to replace Symbian (which was more than capable - its the S60 interface that was a problem) would have still left the company with the same management, who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. They would have had 4 different teams working on different forks of Android for different devices.

Sticks.

8,741 posts

251 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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biggrim said:
My folks moved house recently and found this. Admittedly belongs to my dad but still cool nonetheless.

Also found my Commodore 64, Amiga CTDV and some Star Wars/Transformers stuff.
Nice. I have my father's Fujica Stx 1 in the loft. Iirc he bought it @ 1978.

I'm still using my Technics hifi separates from 87. I found the brochures the other day while looking for something else.



A friend of mine dug out this the other day. We both remember what it is, anyone else? It is IT related.


Theophany

1,069 posts

130 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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clonmult said:
The last of the top end Nokias? If you mean the "true" Nokias, like the 808 or N9, those devices brought what is still the best stills camera on a mobile (808) and the best touch screen interface (N9). Build quality on both was beyond reproach.

Android would not have been a solution. Nokias problem was their godawful management. Just bringing in Android to replace Symbian (which was more than capable - its the S60 interface that was a problem) would have still left the company with the same management, who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. They would have had 4 different teams working on different forks of Android for different devices.
True, but by that point the world had moved on and having a high quality camera was way down the list of killer features. Having a slick OS and app ecosystem, two counts on which they misjudged spectacularly, were what mattered. My last Nokia was the N97, which was so woeful it was borderline useless and the infamous firmware update supposed to 'fix' it did little to help; even if Symbian was capable, UX reigns supreme and they failed to adapt to the changing market.

Which is why I disagree that Android wasn't a solution - I think if they'd woken up much sooner and licensed Android the same way that they ended up doing with Microsoft (none of that Maemo, MeeGo, etc nonsense), they could've remained a relevant player in the market with devices that had their legendary build quality but none of their legendarily crap software. Instead they went full Nero. If they'd had decent management, they'd have quit trying to be a software house and continued being a hardware house (and a good one at that). wink

RichardM5

1,736 posts

136 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Sticks. said:
A friend of mine dug out this the other day. We both remember what it is, anyone else? It is IT related.

Looks like a punched tape tool, maybe designed for editing tape already 'programmed'?

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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RichardM5 said:
Looks like a punched tape tool, maybe designed for editing tape already 'programmed'?
Good shout. I was thinking not a punch tool, but something to help align chassis.

Sticks.

8,741 posts

251 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Tonsko said:
RichardM5 said:
Looks like a punched tape tool, maybe designed for editing tape already 'programmed'?
Good shout. I was thinking not a punch tool, but something to help align chassis.
Yes, a punch tape editing tool. Iirc you could occasionally amend data, but it was usually deleting the incorrect section.

Perik Omo

1,897 posts

148 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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RichardM5 said:
Sticks. said:
A friend of mine dug out this the other day. We both remember what it is, anyone else? It is IT related.

Looks like a punched tape tool, maybe designed for editing tape already 'programmed'?
Yes, it's used to amend punched tape. Stick a bit of self adhesive punch tape over the top of the old tape a "dib" the new holes. Used to use both nine-hole and seven-hole versions back in the day when programs were fed into an English Electric Leo III computer via an Elliot 803 Paper tape reader.

eltawater

3,112 posts

179 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
Forgot all about this little puppy, still as new in its box in the loft!



It's complete with all the original box, manuals, CDs , power supply, car charger, modem, pcmcia cards, leather Filofax case, desktop dock everything.

The original invoice says I paid £380 for it back in 1999, again must be equivalent to about £1500 these days!
Nah, I was a student working as a temp in London for the summer in 1998 and being paid between 7 and 8 pounds an hour at the time.

I was able to save up and buy an ericcson mc12 for £180 that summer.

Don't forget that whereas people typically won't bat an eyelid at effectively £700 for an IPhone nowadays. Back then a desktop PC typically set you back about a grand and an inkjet printer between £200 - £300, whereas now you can pick up perfectly decent ones new for 20% of that. We sometimes forget how much cheaper these things have become.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Old Merc said:

Now how about this for a "Mobile Phone" ??

My son commandeered it from an Iraqi military vehicle during the First Gulf War.


It's obviously Russian,can any of you experts give some info on this?
I know nothing about the equipment, but I'm happy to translate it.

"SWITCHING ON THE EQUIPMENT
TERMINAL
L1 K L2
ON THE CONTROL STATION (I'm taking this to mean 'control panel')
L1 K L2"

RedWhiteMonkey

6,837 posts

182 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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nigelpugh7 said:
Forgot all about this little puppy, still as new in its box in the loft!



It's complete with all the original box, manuals, CDs , power supply, car charger, modem, pcmcia cards, leather Filofax case, desktop dock everything.

The original invoice says I paid £380 for it back in 1999, again must be equivalent to about £1500 these days!
According to this http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1... £380 in 1999 is the equivalent of £603.82 today.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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I was showing my cousin's son some old photos of me and his mother as children.
He looked in the back of the album and found the negatives. He couldn't get his head round that as a legitimate way of keeping photos - he asked why I hadn't kept the memory sticks

Vitorio

4,296 posts

143 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Jimmy Recard said:
I was showing my cousin's son some old photos of me and his mother as children.
He looked in the back of the album and found the negatives. He couldn't get his head round that as a legitimate way of keeping photos - he asked why I hadn't kept the memory sticks
Ive seen someone post a pic of a 3.5" floppy on facebook with the comment "holy crap, someone 3d printed the save icon!"

I still used those buggers in college for a while, and im only 31..