Old tech found in drawers...

[Pacman1978]

Behold the mighty Nokia 3410! My Lumina 930 needs a new screen (and a battery that lasts more than 30 mins) and my backup phones charging port has detached itself. Remembering an ancient Nokia that I had found a number of years ago, I modified an old micro USB lead and watched the tank of mobiles fire into life!

Less than 30 mins of charging will gives many days use.. original battery too! The ring tone volume could wake the dead, never dropped a call, works perfect, although texting is painful compared to a modern smartphone. I've decided to delay repairing my 930 and use the 3410 as my main phone. I purchased a used windows tablet for when I need to email, use web etc. I wish I still had my old 8800 and 8910i Nokias now instead of letting my then toddler son play with them.

Anyone else use a retro phone? Makes me hate modern phones even more.

;:-)

[seyre1972]

jurbie said:

I rented a copy of Jet Set Willy from a local shop and then spent the entire weekend copying the colour chart by assigning a number to each colour, I think there were only 4 colours used so it wasn't particularly difficult. I ended up with a sheet of A4 containing a grid with all these 4 digit numbers but it worked rather well.

Had a friend at school - had a twin tape deck so could copy the tapes no problem - he then spent the majority of his time in maths class using the grid paper to make lettered/colour coded copies of the Copy Protection.

Made a small fortune then flogging them to kids throughout the school .... Last I heard of him he was a Detective in the West Yorkshire police force .....

[carmadgaz]

This thread is making me wish I'd kept my old Nokia N8 and N95 (8Gb)

Got an old Nokia 6600 tucked away in the drawer. There is a (unused, still in box) Megadrive and an Amstrad CPC here too.

Many years ago I had a MD player, it got pinched . This thread inspired me to buy an identical one. Luckily I still have some MDs as 64bit drivers are a bit thin on the ground .

Also have this little beauty. A HP Jornada 728. All working and complete with base... Looking at E-bay and I'm sorely tempted to pop it up looking at the prices of them!

[MissChief]

seyre1972 said:

Had a friend at school - had a twin tape deck so could copy the tapes no problem - he then spent the majority of his time in maths class using the grid paper to make lettered/colour coded copies of the Copy Protection.

Made a small fortune then flogging them to kids throughout the school .... Last I heard of him he was a Detective in the West Yorkshire police force .....

And there was always someone who said you can use High Speed Dubbing to copy the tapes and one that said not to. And another that said twin tape decks were going to be illegal soon too!

[Calza]

seyre1972 said:

jurbie said:

I rented a copy of Jet Set Willy from a local shop and then spent the entire weekend copying the colour chart by assigning a number to each colour, I think there were only 4 colours used so it wasn't particularly difficult. I ended up with a sheet of A4 containing a grid with all these 4 digit numbers but it worked rather well.

Had a friend at school - had a twin tape deck so could copy the tapes no problem - he then spent the majority of his time in maths class using the grid paper to make lettered/colour coded copies of the Copy Protection.

Made a small fortune then flogging them to kids throughout the school .... Last I heard of him he was a Detective in the West Yorkshire police force .....

CD's were just starting to become a thing when I was young, so while having used tapes I'm not that familiar with them. What's this about colour grids to copy them? I thought you just played in one and recorded in another or similar?

[Guvernator]

Calza said:

CD's were just starting to become a thing when I was young, so while having used tapes I'm not that familiar with them. What's this about colour grids to copy them? I thought you just played in one and recorded in another or similar?

Colour grids aren't in reference to the tape itself. Original games often came with a booklet or chart in the box along with books, instructions, illustrations and all sorts of other paraphernalia (I miss the days of proper boxed games). When you loaded the game it would ask you for a colour grid reference from the chart or ask you to type a word in from a specific page in the book\novella in the box before it would let you play. Since digital copy protection didn't really exist in those days, this was the best they could come up with to try to stop people copying games. It wasn't very successful.

[Calza]

Guvernator said:

Colour grids aren't in reference to the tape itself. Original games often came with a booklet or chart in the box along with books, instructions, illustrations and all sorts of other paraphernalia (I miss the days of proper boxed games). When you loaded the game it would ask you for a colour grid reference from the chart or ask you to type a word in from a specific page in the book\novella in the box before it would let you play. Since digital copy protection didn't really exist in those days, this was the best they could come up with to try to stop people copying games. It wasn't very successful.

Haha wow really?

Learn something new every day, thanks!

[Tonsko]

There's a great post over on Digital Antiquarian about copy protection and it's evolution, if you're interested. It does get quite geeky

http://www.filfre.net/2016/01/a-pirates-life-for-m...

[Bungleaio]

Guvernator said:

Calza said:

CD's were just starting to become a thing when I was young, so while having used tapes I'm not that familiar with them. What's this about colour grids to copy them? I thought you just played in one and recorded in another or similar?

Colour grids aren't in reference to the tape itself. Original games often came with a booklet or chart in the box along with books, instructions, illustrations and all sorts of other paraphernalia (I miss the days of proper boxed games). When you loaded the game it would ask you for a colour grid reference from the chart or ask you to type a word in from a specific page in the book\novella in the box before it would let you play. Since digital copy protection didn't really exist in those days, this was the best they could come up with to try to stop people copying games. It wasn't very successful.

My favourite game on the amiga was FA 18 Interceptor, that came with a code wheel which was really annoying as it was loose on the pin in the middle after a while so didn't line up properly.

[boxst]

Bungleaio said:

My favourite game on the amiga was FA 18 Interceptor, that came with a code wheel which was really annoying as it was loose on the pin in the middle after a while so didn't line up properly.

Lockpick V2

( http://www.gamescoffer.co.uk/amiutil.php )

[DervVW]

Tonsko said:

There's a great post over on Digital Antiquarian about copy protection and it's evolution, if you're interested. It does get quite geeky

http://www.filfre.net/2016/01/a-pirates-life-for-m...

Great link! HOurs later!

[Tonsko]

DervVW said:

Great link! HOurs later!

When i first saw that link, i turned straight around and started from the top. *Days* of geek pleasure

[E65Ross]

Finlandia said:

280E said:

A quick root around in the chest of drawers - and all in working order!


An iRiver iHP-120 - more capable than the equivalent iPod of the same era.

Those are rather dear nowadays.

I've still got one of these, and also an IHP-140 with a 60GB drive! Was going to bin them rather than eBay....or is there actually a market for them?

[Finlandia]

E65Ross said:

Finlandia said:

280E said:

A quick root around in the chest of drawers - and all in working order!


An iRiver iHP-120 - more capable than the equivalent iPod of the same era.

Those are rather dear nowadays.

I've still got one of these, and also an IHP-140 with a 60GB drive! Was going to bin them rather than eBay....or is there actually a market for them?

There is a market for them, but the high end stuff coming out now is eating away on that market. Having said that, the last time I checked on ebay they were >£100. But if you feel like chucking them away, I can take them

[Cotty]

Pacman1978 said:

Anyone else use a retro phone? Makes me hate modern phones even more.

;:-)

Yes I have a Nokia C1 as my main phone and an ipod for music, email, video, web stuff etc.

[E65Ross]

Finlandia said:

E65Ross said:

Finlandia said:

280E said:

A quick root around in the chest of drawers - and all in working order!


An iRiver iHP-120 - more capable than the equivalent iPod of the same era.

Those are rather dear nowadays.

I've still got one of these, and also an IHP-140 with a 60GB drive! Was going to bin them rather than eBay....or is there actually a market for them?

There is a market for them, but the high end stuff coming out now is eating away on that market. Having said that, the last time I checked on ebay they were >£100. But if you feel like chucking them away, I can take them

My IHP-120 works 100% fine, but the 140 works, although the on/play button doesn't, so has to be turned on using the remote....and the only remote I have is from the IHP-120.....so I'd probably list both on eBay but stick the remote with the ihp-140 instead of with the ihp-120. May just start the bidding at £20 for each and see what happens. They don't owe me anything, I've had them for around 12 years!!!

[Finlandia]

E65Ross said:

Finlandia said:

E65Ross said:

Finlandia said:

280E said:

A quick root around in the chest of drawers - and all in working order!


An iRiver iHP-120 - more capable than the equivalent iPod of the same era.

Those are rather dear nowadays.

I've still got one of these, and also an IHP-140 with a 60GB drive! Was going to bin them rather than eBay....or is there actually a market for them?

There is a market for them, but the high end stuff coming out now is eating away on that market. Having said that, the last time I checked on ebay they were >£100. But if you feel like chucking them away, I can take them

My IHP-120 works 100% fine, but the 140 works, although the on/play button doesn't, so has to be turned on using the remote....and the only remote I have is from the IHP-120.....so I'd probably list both on eBay but stick the remote with the ihp-140 instead of with the ihp-120. May just start the bidding at £20 for each and see what happens. They don't owe me anything, I've had them for around 12 years!!!

I would be very surprised if they didn't get over £100, likely closer to £200 for a well kept one. Enthusiasts use them with Rockbox, and they are said to be absolutely fabulous, only losing out to the newer high end like A&K etc for UI and screen.

[cg360]

SistersofPercy said:

And finally, I've got a few of these, mostly because I am a hoarder and don't like getting rid of things like this in case I ever need a backup of my music.

I had one of these in 2004 - the battery died, but my Dad still uses it in his car as 4Gb is enough for all the music he wants on the go.

[E65Ross]

Finlandia said:

E65Ross said:

Finlandia said:

E65Ross said:

Finlandia said:

280E said:

A quick root around in the chest of drawers - and all in working order!


An iRiver iHP-120 - more capable than the equivalent iPod of the same era.

Those are rather dear nowadays.

I've still got one of these, and also an IHP-140 with a 60GB drive! Was going to bin them rather than eBay....or is there actually a market for them?

There is a market for them, but the high end stuff coming out now is eating away on that market. Having said that, the last time I checked on ebay they were >£100. But if you feel like chucking them away, I can take them

My IHP-120 works 100% fine, but the 140 works, although the on/play button doesn't, so has to be turned on using the remote....and the only remote I have is from the IHP-120.....so I'd probably list both on eBay but stick the remote with the ihp-140 instead of with the ihp-120. May just start the bidding at £20 for each and see what happens. They don't owe me anything, I've had them for around 12 years!!!

I would be very surprised if they didn't get over £100, likely closer to £200 for a well kept one. Enthusiasts use them with Rockbox, and they are said to be absolutely fabulous, only losing out to the newer high end like A&K etc for UI and screen.

Annoyingly I can only find one charger! I've listed them on eBay together. Fixed price £150 or make an offer. Will see what happens. They don't owe me anything so I'm not that fussed but we'll see what happens. The ihp-120 in particular is in mint condition, it really is. The 140 has seen an awful lot of use and is far more scrappy.... That's running rockbox and a 60gb drive.

[Bungleaio]

boxst said:

Lockpick V2

( http://www.gamescoffer.co.uk/amiutil.php )

If only I knew that in 1992!