Things which are NOT COUNCIL at all.....

Things which are NOT COUNCIL at all.....

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Animal

5,247 posts

268 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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vtecyo said:
Shakermaker said:
Alex said:
Being tattoo-free.
I also thought this, and I am also called Alex. Coincidence?
I also believe this, and my name is also Alex.
That makes three of us!

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Animal said:
Grantchester Orchard Tea Garden
Grantchester is so borderline Council, it's unbelievable. So many white/grey vans on the driveways in the evenings, that they have had to lay double yellow lines, just like a dodgy industrial estate. There is the definition of a village living off past reputation...

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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OpulentBob said:
Animal said:
Grantchester Orchard Tea Garden
Grantchester is so borderline Council, it's unbelievable. So many white/grey vans on the driveways in the evenings, that they have had to lay double yellow lines, just like a dodgy industrial estate. There is the definition of a village living off past reputation...
Council or not, the biggest problem with Grantchester is that that monumental bellend, Jeffery Archer, lives there.

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Volvo.

InductionRoar

2,014 posts

132 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Valve amps
Furniture made before 1800
Grouse shoots
Open fireplaces in your bedrooms
A moat
Old masters of your relatives hanging in the main gallery





TartanPaint

2,988 posts

139 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Simple test: Where do you meet with you bank manager?

I don't know who my bank manager is. = council.
Why, at the bank of course. = middle-class.
In my study = not council.
At my club = not at all council.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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TartanPaint said:
Simple test: Where do you meet with you bank manager?

I don't know who my bank manager is. = council.
Why, at the bank of course. = middle-class.
In my study = not council.
At my club = not at all council.
Depends who asks for the meeting.

BenWRXSEi

2,346 posts

134 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Lives in the country. Owns a 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX estate...

...bear with me here...

Has owned it from two years old. Driven daily. Starship mileage. Crucially, it's totally standard (including the twin-peashooter exhaust).

Has never heard of 'V-Power' or 'Tesco-99' (or Tesco, for that matter). Doesn't know what a 'Scoob' is.


tannhauser

1,773 posts

215 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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chrisb92 said:
Faust66 said:
jonah35 said:
What is it with this? am i the only one that thinks a 12 year old plus car worth peanuts isnt exactly driven by well educated, wealthy people?
You obviously don't 'get' it

Look at it this way: in a world where cars are leased and changed for a shiney new one on a regular basis, in a world where attempting to impress strangers with an image of 'wealth' that may or may not (I really don't care) be justified seems really important to people, in a world where you've got to be seen to have the latest gadget… perhaps there are some people to whom all that is irrelevant?

I'll use my missus's car as an example. It's 19 years old, has near as damn 200,000 miles under its belt and is worth about a 800 quid, tops.

She could easily afford something brand new or 'better' but why should she? She loves her car (had the damn thing for 12 years now!) and it owes her nothing. With servicing (done by me - although she does help as she enjoys working on cars) her V70 will go on forever. So should she change it just because some people see it as old or of little value?

Perhaps well-educated or intelligent (not that they are mutually exclusive) people can see beyond the attitude you display.

That's why I mentioned earlier on the thread about still owning a CRT TV. When it goes pop it will be replaced with a nice flat screen HD thing… but I'll be twice-treble damned if I fork out several hundred quid to replace a set that works perfectly well.

As I drive a classic, similar-ish rules apply: it really makes no sense. For the money it's worth I could get something newer, faster, more economical… but you know what? I don't want to live my life to please other people's ideals of what's acceptable.

As far as I can tell, the laudable quality of 'council' types is that they really don't give a toss about other peoples opinions - they get on with their lives and they seem to enjoy themselves… and fair play to 'em.
I'm with Jonah on this one. Nothing non-council about owning an old banger. Servicing it yourself sounds rather council as well. I'd say I am reasonably well educated, but not particularly wealthy. If I was extremely wealthy, and being a lover of cars that I am, then I see no reason why I wouldn't have a Supercharged Range Rover and a 911 Turbo S on my driveway (or whatever takes your fancy). And when I returned home, I'd most certainly want to switch on a top of the range tv to catch whatever was on that evening. Choosing to keep the Volvo or the crap tv in order to appear non council is about as council as it gets in my opinion.

The only way that owning that car and that tv is non-council, is if you would own them above all other cars/tvs out of choice - money no object.
Nope. Clearly you don't get it either. Old money drives around in a tatty old Volvo, Mercedes or Subaru, or a battered Land Rover Defender - certainly those who aren't into cars or (by implication) aren't bothered about image.

vtecyo

2,122 posts

129 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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BenWRXSEi said:
Lives in the country. Owns a 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX estate...

...bear with me here...

Has owned it from two years old. Driven daily. Starship mileage. Crucially, it's totally standard (including the twin-peashooter exhaust).

Has never heard of 'V-Power' or 'Tesco-99' (or Tesco, for that matter). Doesn't know what a 'Scoob' is.
As long as it's filthy and smells of dog, I'll go with you on that.

BenWRXSEi

2,346 posts

134 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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vtecyo said:
BenWRXSEi said:
Lives in the country. Owns a 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX estate...

...bear with me here...

Has owned it from two years old. Driven daily. Starship mileage. Crucially, it's totally standard (including the twin-peashooter exhaust).

Has never heard of 'V-Power' or 'Tesco-99' (or Tesco, for that matter). Doesn't know what a 'Scoob' is.
As long as it's filthy and smells of dog, I'll go with you on that.
Labrador, natch.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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TartanPaint said:
Simple test: Where do you meet with you bank manager?

I don't know who my bank manager is. = council.
Why, at the bank of course. = middle-class.
In my study = not council.
At my club = not at all council.
Meet with a bank manager? In 2016?


Digga

40,316 posts

283 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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schmunk said:
TartanPaint said:
Simple test: Where do you meet with you bank manager?

I don't know who my bank manager is. = council.
Why, at the bank of course. = middle-class.
In my study = not council.
At my club = not at all council.
Meet with a bank manager? In 2016?
Personal banking still exists. All that touchtone, overseas callcentre bullst is sooo last decade and definitely council.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Digga said:
schmunk said:
TartanPaint said:
Simple test: Where do you meet with you bank manager?

I don't know who my bank manager is. = council.
Why, at the bank of course. = middle-class.
In my study = not council.
At my club = not at all council.
Meet with a bank manager? In 2016?
Personal banking still exists. All that touchtone, overseas callcentre bullst is sooo last decade and definitely council.
But "meet with"? What a bloody waste of time!

Countdown

39,864 posts

196 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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schmunk said:
But "meet with"? What a bloody waste of time!
They like to meet every so often, just to make sure their Tender submission is going to tick all the right boxes....

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Europa1 said:
OpulentBob said:
Animal said:
Grantchester Orchard Tea Garden
Grantchester is so borderline Council, it's unbelievable. So many white/grey vans on the driveways in the evenings, that they have had to lay double yellow lines, just like a dodgy industrial estate. There is the definition of a village living off past reputation...
Council or not, the biggest problem with Grantchester is that that monumental bellend, Jeffery Archer, lives there.
rofl Love that description.

Doesn't Portillo live out that way too?

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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schmunk said:
TartanPaint said:
Simple test: Where do you meet with you bank manager?

I don't know who my bank manager is. = council.
Why, at the bank of course. = middle-class.
In my study = not council.
At my club = not at all council.
Meet with a bank manager? In 2016?
Surely one has a man for the vulgar business of sorting out the money?

AstonZagato

12,700 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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tannhauser said:
chrisb92 said:
Faust66 said:
jonah35 said:
What is it with this? am i the only one that thinks a 12 year old plus car worth peanuts isnt exactly driven by well educated, wealthy people?
You obviously don't 'get' it

Look at it this way: in a world where cars are leased and changed for a shiney new one on a regular basis, in a world where attempting to impress strangers with an image of 'wealth' that may or may not (I really don't care) be justified seems really important to people, in a world where you've got to be seen to have the latest gadget… perhaps there are some people to whom all that is irrelevant?

I'll use my missus's car as an example. It's 19 years old, has near as damn 200,000 miles under its belt and is worth about a 800 quid, tops.

She could easily afford something brand new or 'better' but why should she? She loves her car (had the damn thing for 12 years now!) and it owes her nothing. With servicing (done by me - although she does help as she enjoys working on cars) her V70 will go on forever. So should she change it just because some people see it as old or of little value?

Perhaps well-educated or intelligent (not that they are mutually exclusive) people can see beyond the attitude you display.

That's why I mentioned earlier on the thread about still owning a CRT TV. When it goes pop it will be replaced with a nice flat screen HD thing… but I'll be twice-treble damned if I fork out several hundred quid to replace a set that works perfectly well.

As I drive a classic, similar-ish rules apply: it really makes no sense. For the money it's worth I could get something newer, faster, more economical… but you know what? I don't want to live my life to please other people's ideals of what's acceptable.

As far as I can tell, the laudable quality of 'council' types is that they really don't give a toss about other peoples opinions - they get on with their lives and they seem to enjoy themselves… and fair play to 'em.
I'm with Jonah on this one. Nothing non-council about owning an old banger. Servicing it yourself sounds rather council as well. I'd say I am reasonably well educated, but not particularly wealthy. If I was extremely wealthy, and being a lover of cars that I am, then I see no reason why I wouldn't have a Supercharged Range Rover and a 911 Turbo S on my driveway (or whatever takes your fancy). And when I returned home, I'd most certainly want to switch on a top of the range tv to catch whatever was on that evening. Choosing to keep the Volvo or the crap tv in order to appear non council is about as council as it gets in my opinion.

The only way that owning that car and that tv is non-council, is if you would own them above all other cars/tvs out of choice - money no object.
Nope. Clearly you don't get it either. Old money drives around in a tatty old Volvo, Mercedes or Subaru, or a battered Land Rover Defender - certainly those who aren't into cars or (by implication) aren't bothered about image.
I shoot regularly with both proper aristocracy and serious new money. There is a real mix of shiny new Range Rovers and beaten up battle buses. There isn't really a clear correlation except that the aristos tend to be "asset rich, cash poor" and therefore have an aversion to spending the money but they are matched by the new money people who either want to hide their wealth or hate obvious excess. The "shiny new brigade" are those on both sides who want to have a car that works and buy the car that is best for the job. Some have no idea (and no interest in) what they are in, as long as it is comfortable and does the job.

So the "wealth whispers" thing is, in my experience, a myth (or at least a partial truth at best).

chrisb92

1,051 posts

124 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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AstonZagato said:
I shoot regularly with both proper aristocracy and serious new money. There is a real mix of shiny new Range Rovers and beaten up battle buses. There isn't really a clear correlation except that the aristos tend to be "asset rich, cash poor" and therefore have an aversion to spending the money but they are matched by the new money people who either want to hide their wealth or hate obvious excess. The "shiny new brigade" are those on both sides who want to have a car that works and buy the car that is best for the job. Some have no idea (and no interest in) what they are in, as long as it is comfortable and does the job.

So the "wealth whispers" thing is, in my experience, a myth (or at least a partial truth at best).
I fully understand the 'I don't care about image' people, but this is PH and surely we are all here because we love cars, so I just find it hard to believe someone's favourite car is a Volvo shed? Thus, it is council as they are driving something old because they cannot afford something they truly desire?

OR have I still totally got the wrong end of the council stick, which makes me very much council hehe

singlecoil

33,590 posts

246 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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chrisb92 said:
but this is PH and surely we are all here because we love cars,
Not necessarily. There's a lot going on here besides cars.