Things which are NOT COUNCIL at all.....
Discussion
Countdown said:
schmunk said:
But "meet with"? What a bloody waste of time!
They like to meet every so often, just to make sure their Tender submission is going to tick all the right boxes....AstonZagato said:
I shoot regularly with both proper aristocracy and serious new money. There is a real mix of shiny new Range Rovers and beaten up battle buses. There isn't really a clear correlation except that the aristos tend to be "asset rich, cash poor" and therefore have an aversion to spending the money but they are matched by the new money people who either want to hide their wealth or hate obvious excess. The "shiny new brigade" are those on both sides who want to have a car that works and buy the car that is best for the job. Some have no idea (and no interest in) what they are in, as long as it is comfortable and does the job.
So the "wealth whispers" thing is, in my experience, a myth (or at least a partial truth at best).
I was on my way to a spot of downhill mountain biking lunacy at Antur Stiniog in Snowdonia and stopped at the (excellent) Rhug Farm shop, near Corwen, en route. There was a bunch of shootists there and, aside from the odd Volvo estate, or trusty workhorse pickup, the majority seemed to be in new-ish Land Rover products (a lot of Rang Rovers) and the blokes inside the place seemed mostly to be in very shiny new tweeds and shooting gear. Conspicuously so. (No idea where they were off to shoot though.)So the "wealth whispers" thing is, in my experience, a myth (or at least a partial truth at best).
membership of the Royal Horticultural Society
Has a heating system that was built in the dark ages and is ruineous to even operate.
Jewellery is inherited
Nil knowledge of anything watch like or the pretentious farce of watch brands, other than having perhaps an old decent watch kicking around in a dresser somewhere, again inherited or bought for a landmark birthday present. Certainly no interest in wearing it for show.
(I'm minded of this, having seen some muppet in a new, bright orange M3 in Leeds recently. Had what looked like a dinner plate on his right wrist, really evidently on his show as he drove his vulgar coloured car. I don't know who he was trying to impress, but my wife thought he looked a proper tw+t).
A proper old aga in the kitchen, certainly not an electric one !
The quad bike is green, with racks, bales of hay on and perhaps also a dog. Not chinese made and kept in the kitchen or impounded by the police on a regular basis.
Has a heating system that was built in the dark ages and is ruineous to even operate.
Jewellery is inherited
Nil knowledge of anything watch like or the pretentious farce of watch brands, other than having perhaps an old decent watch kicking around in a dresser somewhere, again inherited or bought for a landmark birthday present. Certainly no interest in wearing it for show.
(I'm minded of this, having seen some muppet in a new, bright orange M3 in Leeds recently. Had what looked like a dinner plate on his right wrist, really evidently on his show as he drove his vulgar coloured car. I don't know who he was trying to impress, but my wife thought he looked a proper tw+t).
A proper old aga in the kitchen, certainly not an electric one !
The quad bike is green, with racks, bales of hay on and perhaps also a dog. Not chinese made and kept in the kitchen or impounded by the police on a regular basis.
austinsmirk said:
(I'm minded of this, having seen some muppet in a new, bright orange M3 in Leeds recently. Had what looked like a dinner plate on his right wrist, really evidently on his show as he drove his vulgar coloured car. I don't know who he was trying to impress, but my wife thought he looked a proper tw+t).
All BMWs are council. Even the £100k+ 760iL. M3's are exceptionally "council dun good", once again associated with blue suits, Bovis homes, Tags, etc. The only thing more council than a BMW is either a (dented, doom blue) Pug 307 or a Navara/ForLife fat 
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OpulentBob said:
Europa1 said:
OpulentBob said:
Animal said:
Grantchester Orchard Tea Garden
Grantchester is so borderline Council, it's unbelievable. So many white/grey vans on the driveways in the evenings, that they have had to lay double yellow lines, just like a dodgy industrial estate. There is the definition of a village living off past reputation... 
Love that description.Doesn't Portillo live out that way too?
Trabi601 said:
schmunk said:
TartanPaint said:
Simple test: Where do you meet with you bank manager?
I don't know who my bank manager is. = council.
Why, at the bank of course. = middle-class.
In my study = not council.
At my club = not at all council.
Meet with a bank manager? In 2016?I don't know who my bank manager is. = council.
Why, at the bank of course. = middle-class.
In my study = not council.
At my club = not at all council.
Two! There are two things you should never delegate. This is one. Don't forget to remind your wife's young, tanned, handsome tennis coach of the other thing you do not wish to delegate.
Oh, yes, having a tennis coach.
silentbrown said:
TartanPaint said:
Simple test: Where do you meet with you bank manager?
For non-council, you never "meet with" people. You just "meet" them.I don't see why that's council lingo, but I went to a council school about 20 years ago so I haven't actually been educated yet.
TartanPaint said:
silentbrown said:
TartanPaint said:
Simple test: Where do you meet with you bank manager?
For non-council, you never "meet with" people. You just "meet" them.I don't see why that's council lingo, but I went to a council school about 20 years ago so I haven't actually been educated yet.
TartanPaint said:
You "meet" a person the first time you encounter them. Subsequently, you can either "meet" or "meet with" them. "Meet with" is less ambiguous.
I don't see why that's council lingo, but I went to a council school about 20 years ago so I haven't actually been educated yet.
There's a few cases where "meet with" is valid and commonly used (e.g 'your proposal may meet with opposition"), but in normal use it's just verbiage. "I'll meet him at the station" is is perfect, regardless of how many times you've met 'him' before. I don't see why that's council lingo, but I went to a council school about 20 years ago so I haven't actually been educated yet.
Having a Drawing Room with a signed portrait of HM The Queen hung above a vintage French Clock, nearby your red leather chair from The House of Lords. In the entrance hall your Oar from Oxford in 1948 signed by the rest of the crew, some of whom you still see regularly. Outside, tending to the lawns old Henderson who knew you as an infant. Grandad's 1927 3ltr supercharged Bentley gently mouldering away under a cover in the Motor House. From your front door a rifle shot will land in your estate. In your study the Clock from your Spitfire alongside photographs of the bods that didn't make it. Your Gentlemanly demeanour and flawless good manners endear you to all who know you.
chrisb92 said:
AstonZagato said:
I shoot regularly with both proper aristocracy and serious new money. There is a real mix of shiny new Range Rovers and beaten up battle buses. There isn't really a clear correlation except that the aristos tend to be "asset rich, cash poor" and therefore have an aversion to spending the money but they are matched by the new money people who either want to hide their wealth or hate obvious excess. The "shiny new brigade" are those on both sides who want to have a car that works and buy the car that is best for the job. Some have no idea (and no interest in) what they are in, as long as it is comfortable and does the job.
So the "wealth whispers" thing is, in my experience, a myth (or at least a partial truth at best).
I fully understand the 'I don't care about image' people, but this is PH and surely we are all here because we love cars, so I just find it hard to believe someone's favourite car is a Volvo shed? Thus, it is council as they are driving something old because they cannot afford something they truly desire?So the "wealth whispers" thing is, in my experience, a myth (or at least a partial truth at best).
OR have I still totally got the wrong end of the council stick, which makes me very much council
Clearly, the impoverished aristos know that they are driving sheds. However, they try to make a virtue out of it - "This old girl? Had her for 20 years and it never misses a beat. The Labrador likes it too. I wouldn't want anything else.". Secretly they want the latest L405 with all the bells and whistles but would have to sell off a few acres to afford it, so don't. I know someone who fits this to a tee. Huge pile, Subaru on the drive, no heating in the house and jumpers that are falling apart.
But there are those who like driving sheds - I shoot with a baronet who bimbles round his estate in an ancient Defender. His son, on the other hand, used to drive a Gemballa Cayenne that would have made a drug-dealer blush. The old boy can clearly afford whatever he wants but he wants the Defender.
I know a hedge fund multi-millionaire who has four Range Rovers and a Toyota Landcruiser across his various shooting and fishing estates. He has a new L405 through to old L322s. He has no idea which is which and really doesn't care. He only gets rid of them when they start going wrong - the only thing he cares about is "does it start?" and "will it get there?". He buys poverty spec ones because he can't be arsed to find out what the buttons do. There is no inverse snobbery - just that the type of car he is in is utterly unimportant to him.
I know one Earl who drives a brand new Q7 and one that drives a late model L322.
I know a multi-millionaire that turns up in a brand new top spec Range Rover every year. I have money on him turning up in the Bentley Bentanglegayer thing this year.
A CEO of a FTSE company (from council roots) who drives a new Discovery 4. He likes to represent himself as a "man of the people". His wife has a top of the range new Bentley.
A CEO of a FTSE company that has an L405 Autobiography and trades it every 3 years after completely covering it in dog hair. He likes cars, likes having the latest model, can afford the depreciation.
I'm not sure I can see a pattern. Some new money is flash, so is some old money. Some old money is frugal, so is some new money. I guess the common factor is that they do really what the f
k they like.duckwhistle said:
Having a Drawing Room with a signed portrait of HM The Queen hung above a vintage French Clock, nearby your red leather chair from The House of Lords. In the entrance hall your Oar from Oxford in 1948 signed by the rest of the crew, some of whom you still see regularly. Outside, tending to the lawns old Henderson who knew you as an infant. Grandad's 1927 3ltr supercharged Bentley gently mouldering away under a cover in the Motor House. From your front door a rifle shot will land in your estate. In your study the Clock from your Spitfire alongside photographs of the bods that didn't make it. Your Gentlemanly demeanour and flawless good manners endear you to all who know you.
I'm hoping that is a very keenly observed satire of this place, in which case, superb! You've played that perfectly The ultimate PH w
k fantasy.
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