Parking Charge Fine 4 Months After Offence

Parking Charge Fine 4 Months After Offence

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magnum555

Original Poster:

473 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I've received a parking charge notice from parking eye for overstaying in a car park, the date it happened was on 10/03/2016 and the date the fine has been issued to me was 16/07/2016.

I was using a hire car at the time and and the hire company sent me a letter originally in march advising they had received a parking charge notice and would be passing my details onto the company. They advised parking eye will send a parking charge notice to me directly. Didn't receive anything from them until last week.

Is this a valid parking charge notice due to the fact it was issued to me more than 4 months after the date of the offence?

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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It doesn't sound like an offence or a fine.

It's an invoice and won't have 'timed out'.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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These guys can't find their bottom with both hands, but they will go legal if you don't play the game.

They won the beavis case and hang their hat on it like its a one size fits all answer to any private parking dispute. In reality it deals with a specific set of circs and if you case differs in anyway it's not valid.

You can popla appeal and their submissions are full of holes.

Go to money saving expert parking forum for more info.

Don't pay and don't ignore.

I have beaten them at popla appeal.

Edited by surveyor_101 on Tuesday 26th July 11:01

S11Steve

6,374 posts

184 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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They have 56 days to notify the keeper if a windscreen ticket was issued, but PE are actually pretty compliant with this one.

Where they do trip up is that when they contact the hirer of the vehicle, it is not compliant with POFA - they should provide a copy of the original Notice to Keeper, along with a copy of the hire agreement. I have yet to see them do this.

Section 14.2 covers the requirements for invoicing a hirer - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedul...

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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S11Steve said:
They have 56 days to notify the keeper if a windscreen ticket was issued, but PE are actually pretty compliant with this one.

Where they do trip up is that when they contact the hirer of the vehicle, it is not compliant with POFA - they should provide a copy of the original Notice to Keeper, along with a copy of the hire agreement. I have yet to see them do this.

Section 14.2 covers the requirements for invoicing a hirer - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedul...
My notice was not Pofa complaint, bpa, popla/aos all disagreed and the assecor said it was. Mine was upheld due to lack of land owner authority, so don't hang your hat on Pofa compliance.


surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Op what carpark we talking about?

magnum555

Original Poster:

473 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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surveyor_101 said:
Op what carpark we talking about?
A retail park, overstayed by 20 minutes.

Thermobaric

725 posts

120 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Start a thread on pepipoo. They've got me out of a bunch of tickets.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=60

BlueHave

4,642 posts

108 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Parking eye aren't a council or local authority so i'd imagine it's time to file in the nearest bin

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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BlueHave said:
Parking eye aren't a council or local authority so i'd imagine it's time to file in the nearest bin
Old advice these guys go legal if you ignore.

People have got CCJs doing that.

They won the beavis case, probably best you don't give advice on this matter if you don't know what your talking about.

They are about the most active ppc in court terms you can deal with, g24 on the other hand have yet to go legal on anyone.

Google parking eye Ltd and just read the evidence before you post twaddle.



Edited by surveyor_101 on Tuesday 26th July 22:04

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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magnum555 said:
A retail park, overstayed by 20 minutes.
What one, might help.

So is it free carp ark with max time, which you overstayed by 20 mins ?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Thermobaric said:
They've got me out of a bunch of tickets.
confused how do you get a bunch ?

lord trumpton

7,380 posts

126 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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How much is the fine?

The fact you were over by only 20mins is irrelevant - if there was a limit and you exceeded it then it's time to cough up and stop trying to wriggle.

They issue time allotments to keep customers flowing and stop people just using a 'free' car park.

Take the medicine and move on; is it really worth all the messing about?

magnum555

Original Poster:

473 posts

159 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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lord trumpton said:
How much is the fine?

The fact you were over by only 20mins is irrelevant - if there was a limit and you exceeded it then it's time to cough up and stop trying to wriggle.

They issue time allotments to keep customers flowing and stop people just using a 'free' car park.

Take the medicine and move on; is it really worth all the messing about?
If they haven't followed procedure then I will try to wriggle out of paying the fine.

magnum555

Original Poster:

473 posts

159 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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surveyor_101 said:
magnum555 said:
A retail park, overstayed by 20 minutes.
What one, might help.

So is it free carp ark with max time, which you overstayed by 20 mins ?
Yes free parking at a retail park, overstayed by 20 minutes.

silverfoxcc

7,688 posts

145 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I'm with surveyor on this. You will ONLY get a CCJ IF
They send you court papers ( not debt collectors or the like and letters that have the words May or might ie toothless threats)
They follow it through at court
You get a judgment against you
You dont pa it

Then and only then you get a CCJ against you

But by reading pepipoo there are a lot of PPC who are chasing up old parking demands that have been ignored so

best register with pepipoo
follow their instructions to the letter
Be 100% truthful

Look for they guys who post a lot, they really know their stuff Gan, Lynzzer, hcandersen,schoolrunmum

They like winning against these people( nd ouncils as well rearding DYL infractions) how many people have been done incorrectly by a traffic warden for stopping on DYL to assist boarding and alighting?

Likewise how many have thought it is ok to park on the verge where DYL exist and get ticketed, not knowing the restrictions cover the carriageway ( from fence to fence) and not the highway (kerb to kerb) i may have got those around the wrong way.

And people that get invoices from JLA and Robin Hood airports for stopping for 10 secs to allow someone out the car, That thread is worth reading alone!!!

S11Steve

6,374 posts

184 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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BlueHave said:
Parking eye aren't a council or local authority so i'd imagine it's time to file in the nearest bin
ParkingEye issue in the region of 30,000 CCJs a year since POFA 2012 was enacted, relying on old advice in circulation to ignore them.

Only in Northern Ireland and Scotland can they be safely ignored as POFA and Keeper Liability does not apply outside of England and Wales.


Thermobaric

725 posts

120 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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speedyguy said:
confused how do you get a bunch ?
Do to the nature of my job, I often have to park in permit controlled car parks which I have every right to park in under instruction of the landlord but no permit exists for the property I'm at.

They have also got me out of council tickets that were unfairly issued. I had to take one all the way to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal. Winning that was quite satisfying. The council representative didn't know his arse from his elbow though ha.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Thermobaric said:
speedyguy said:
confused how do you get a bunch ?
Do to the nature of my job, I often have to park in permit controlled car parks which I have every right to park in under instruction of the landlord but no permit exists for the property I'm at.
thumbup
At least you're not a selfish hamshanker who thinks they can park anywhere and fook the landowner irked

Thermobaric

725 posts

120 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Ha. Yeah. There's often an allocated space/spaces for me but because there is no permit, it complicates things. Bloody annoying.