Birth Cert not good enough for Student Finance England

Birth Cert not good enough for Student Finance England

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Eric Mc

121,897 posts

265 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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RobinOakapple said:
Fastpedeller said:
Ahh the grammar police. What's the problem, you managed to read it and at least the apostrophe's's are correct!
It's absolutely nothing to do with grammar, it's to do with good manners, taking the small amount if time necessary to make your post clearly legible.

I daresay I could have managed to read it if I had really wanted to, but if you can't be bothered to write properly, then I can't be bothered to read what you've written.
100% in agreement.

All it is is considering the person you expect to read the message.

Vaud

50,390 posts

155 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Dixy said:
Sorry slightly off topic, what course is she doing that the NHS contribute to?
The NHS will support many courses - e.g. midwifery - in two ways:

The NHS pays the fees for the course but you need to apply for a NHS Bursary for this.
If you are seconded to the course by your employer, your employing NHS trust pays your fees.

vtecyo

2,122 posts

129 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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My girlfriend requested some document through the other day.

From what I can make out of it, the interest on the loan now they've flogged it to some private company is higher than the amount she's paid off. I can only assume mine is the same.

Good luck is all I have to say. Such an infuriating "organisation" to deal with.

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

99 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Pay the local GP his/her 50 quid and stop whinging.

Britain is looking keep this, deal with it.

rodericb

6,695 posts

126 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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jdw100 said:
If she does get to Uni; ask her to teach you about paragraphs and spacing- that's one dense text block.
Also about not quoting said slabs of text in the very next post, all to say one sentence.

matchmaker

8,480 posts

200 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Fastpedeller said:
Ahh the grammar police. What's the problem, you managed to read it and at least the apostrophe's's are correct!
These aren't. rolleyes

jdw100

4,101 posts

164 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Fastpedeller said:
Ahh the grammar police. What's the problem, you managed to read it and at least the apostrophe's's are correct!
No sorry I didn't read it...

What's it all about then?

jdw100

4,101 posts

164 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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rodericb said:
jdw100 said:
If she does get to Uni; ask her to teach you about paragraphs and spacing- that's one dense text block.
Also about not quoting said slabs of text in the very next post, all to say one sentence.
Oh yeah.....whoops!

Fastpedeller

Original Poster:

3,872 posts

146 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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matchmaker said:
These aren't. rolleyes
That was my attempt at humour.

Fastpedeller

Original Poster:

3,872 posts

146 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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EnglishTony said:
Pay the local GP his/her 50 quid and stop whinging.

Britain is looking keep this, deal with it.
But the point I'm making (maybe you didn't see it because of my poor layout as criticised by others) is that the GP doesn't even know her! I'm ok with all the checks if they are applied with sound logic and intelligence.

Fastpedeller

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3,872 posts

146 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Snubs said:
I love these throwbacks to the Victorian era idea of 'community members of good standing'. Because you never see the police, doctors or politicians in the press for malpractice. They're above sin, unlike the rest of us vassals banghead

Just a thought OP but do they not accept chartered professionals like accountants and so on? You can be a Chartered pretty much anything these days, so there may be a friend of a family that qualifies?
Indeed. I'd like to think that in any situation my word is as good as any other person's. "Some are more equal than others" is a phrase that springs to mind. We live in a small, rural community and Farmers aren't (apparently) high enough up the pecking order.
Ironically the local MP has known our daughter for several years - local school visits and the like, so that would potentially be our next course of action if we were to pursue this (It would be strange if he didn't count because of any political bias!). In the meantime we are going to withdraw the application - my Wife has (quite correctly) stated it isn't worth the stress. We will finance this small amount and we won't be paying the interest to an organisation like SFE.

Disastrous

10,078 posts

217 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Poor OP.

I read it and I sympathise. I too hate these 'just because' rules and systems and loathe the people that follow them slavishly.

Sadly, PH is full of people who love stuff like that.

Goaty Bill 2

3,400 posts

119 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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A Citizen Card is proof as per their requirement.
Yes, it costs a few pounds, and yes it requires a suitable signatory, but it's a long and variable list of suitable 'professionals', and they deliver within a couple of days of receiving the application.

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Vaud said:
Dixy said:
Sorry slightly off topic, what course is she doing that the NHS contribute to?
The NHS will support many courses - e.g. midwifery - in two ways:

The NHS pays the fees for the course but you need to apply for a NHS Bursary for this.
If you are seconded to the course by your employer, your employing NHS trust pays your fees.
Fairly sure there's a proposal to bin the bursaries and replace them with loans, so whoever the OP manages to persuade to sign the piece of paper he'd better get it done quick!

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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xjay1337 said:
Just get her doctor or headmaster to sign it.
They aren't going to perform background checks to ensure that they have been best buds for 2 years.
Medical practitioners are deprecated as Counter signatories becasue of the numbers who could not verify the identity of people they had counter signed applications for.

glenrobbo

35,188 posts

150 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Only on PH could a plea for sensible procedures on Uni fee funding be usurped ny the grammar police. frown

OP, I liked your reference to apostrophe's'es! I'm just surprised you didn't release the parrot! wink

Unnecessary red tape is annoying and time consuming, but I suppose it does keep the jobsworths from the dole queue. Unfortunately.

Fastpedeller

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3,872 posts

146 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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Impasse said:
Fairly sure there's a proposal to bin the bursaries and replace them with loans, so whoever the OP manages to persuade to sign the piece of paper he'd better get it done quick!
Hers is the last intake to be bursary funded. We have the bursary funding all arranged - the NHS believed the Birth Certificate without its backup 'Birth certificate verification form'. Maybe they remember bringing her into the world!;)

burritoNinja

690 posts

100 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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When I started Uni I had to get my forms for student loan company signed by a local politician and of course send away copies of my passport, driver license. Can't remember the in's and out's but it is only once.

wildcat45

8,072 posts

189 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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OP. I feel your pain.

All this would be so easy if she had a passport.

I speak from experience. My passports run out and I'm doing the same paperwork as you for a student loan. It's a fking nightmare. My local publican whisk nine me 30 years has a passport but at his home on the other side of the country. My neighbour - someone on the list of approved people - like me has an invalid passport.

I know loads of teachers - my wife is one - but they've all buffered off to the sun for the summer.

I'm meeting a former colleague who lives near me on Monday. She's going to sort me for a fee - coffee and cake.

djc206

12,324 posts

125 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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What a hassle!

I've just signed a passport application for a friend. Well to be perfectly accurate his newborn. Looks just like every other baby, confused and like it's just st itself, I couldn't pick it out in a crowd of 2 but I hereby certify that this photo is of said sprog. Farcical.