Divorcing empty nesters...

Divorcing empty nesters...

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TwigtheWonderkid

43,407 posts

151 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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My wife and I agree on the most imported thing, that we never wanted children. Neither of us like children, have any patience for children or want to waste any of our time bringing up children. This is the glue that's held us together.

Of course, our children aren't too happy about it but we stand firm together.

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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I don't think children are imported all that often? Maybe if you're Madonna?

housen

2,366 posts

193 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Robertj21a said:
The female of the species needs to reproduce - she needs a man to satisfy that need. Once she has had some children to nurture, paid for (usually) by the man, then there's little reason for her to stay in that relationship.
like the spider that eats her mate after she gets his swimmers

SplatSpeed

7,490 posts

252 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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N-TY4C said:
anonymous said:
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I agree, Tonker, the battle for your son you MUST win. But do reflect on what it must be like to be in a relationship with you. No one is perfect. IMHO relationships require emotional intellect not academic excellence. When a relationship falls apart, self analysis is key. "What could I have done better....... What can I do differently next time......." Look at your weaknesses not hers. She is history.

I have had to accept that I am not easy to live with. That I work very hard in the week and just want to vegetate at the weekend .....which translates to boring, lazy and laying in bed on my iPad all day to the other half. I have to address this or my relationship WILL fall apart. If you (if one does not) don't change, your next relationship will end up going the same way. Someone once told me; "If you think I am a cow, maybe it's because you bring out the cow in me". This is true. Every relationship is a unique result of how two people respond to each other. I know for certain that when someone thinks I am amazing, I become a little bit more amazing to them......
Apparently I was guilty of loving her too much, well that's fixed!!

but she alleviated the problem by sleeping with other men!!

BigLion

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1,497 posts

100 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
My wife and I agree on the most imported thing, that we never wanted children. Neither of us like children, have any patience for children or want to waste any of our time bringing up children. This is the glue that's held us together.

Of course, our children aren't too happy about it but we stand firm together.
Two oddballs in a society being the glue that holds you together - makes sense wink

oldbanger

4,316 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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N-TY4C said:
I agree, Tonker, the battle for your son you MUST win. But do reflect on what it must be like to be in a relationship with you. No one is perfect. IMHO relationships require emotional intellect not academic excellence. When a relationship falls apart, self analysis is key. "What could I have done better....... What can I do differently next time......." Look at your weaknesses not hers. She is history.

I have had to accept that I am not easy to live with. That I work very hard in the week and just want to vegetate at the weekend .....which translates to boring, lazy and laying in bed on my iPad all day to the other half. I have to address this or my relationship WILL fall apart. If you (if one does not) don't change, your next relationship will end up going the same way. Someone once told me; "If you think I am a cow, maybe it's because you bring out the cow in me". This is true. Every relationship is a unique result of how two people respond to each other. I know for certain that when someone thinks I am amazing, I become a little bit more amazing to them......
Ditto, no matter what or how the other party has been, it's the relationship that hasn't worked, I recognise that in my own marriages. What you brought to the table and asked for in your mate is far more important than what they did or didn't do. If you don't do that, then you haven't taken up the most valuable opportunity available from your failed marriage.



Edited by oldbanger on Thursday 11th August 09:33

jonah35

3,940 posts

158 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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How are you getting on tonker?

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Surely it would be best to rent somewhere for yourself?

GreatGranny

9,128 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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desolate said:
Surely it would be best to rent somewhere for yourself?
Maybe he thinks its worth staying there for the time being because it allows constant contact with his son.

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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I take it next years annual Soovy-Tonks Swingers Jamboree is cancelled then?

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

117 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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anonymous said:
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wow, crazy stuff.
Thought i had it bad when me and the wife were falling out but this is another level.

Tonker, let me know if i can help. I know a guy who is amazing. Got me and the wife flying again. Actually speaking of which let me see if she wants to go tomorrow.


Zoon

6,710 posts

122 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Use the money saved on house staff to rent somewhere.

Robertj21a

16,478 posts

106 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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anonymous said:
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Very sad, no doubt particularly when you recall the 'good times' of a few years ago.

Is there a timescale envisaged that allows you to move on with your own life - after the house sale ?

Ari

19,348 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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GreatGranny said:
desolate said:
Surely it would be best to rent somewhere for yourself?
Maybe he thinks its worth staying there for the time being because it allows constant contact with his son.
Also, when I was going through this with a friend recently, the advice we kept getting was 'do not leave the family home'. I don't know why, but apparently it has dire financial consequences for the one who's gone (which, presumably, is why the wife is trying to make things intolerable to force him out).

My friend's wife tried very hard to provoke him to hit her in order to be able to get him basically banned from the house. He didn't, but she went to the police and told them that he had anyway. Fortunately they (presumably) saw straight through her as no action at all was taken (maybe they get this a lot).

jshell

11,032 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Ari said:
Also, when I was going through this with a friend recently, the advice we kept getting was 'do not leave the family home'. I don't know why,
Once they've chosen to leave, they will find it almost impossible to get back in. I believe that's why the advice.

Ari

19,348 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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I really feel for you mate. As I say, I touched on this with a mate, but it wasn't as bad as you're experiencing.

I'm curious, is this an utter reversal of character from previous happy times (presumably there were some, given that you married her), or would you say these traits have always been there, just magnified.

With my friend, there was always a sense that it was all about the lifestyle with his wife, right from the beginning - not to mention an obvious dissatisfaction with him when he failed to provide (he appeared to have wealthy parents and I think she thought they would set them up. They weren't and they didn't).

Needless to say the new bloke is apparently better off, although I hear on the grapevine that he's not stumping up either - what a shame!

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Sounds like a total nightmare.

Personally I would be renting a small place nearby to get some personal space.

Don't even tell her, just used it as a place to relax without the the stupid cow in your face.

Hope it works out as best as it can.

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Ari said:
My friend's wife tried very hard to provoke him to hit her in order to be able to get him basically banned from the house. He didn't, but she went to the police and told them that he had anyway. Fortunately they (presumably) saw straight through her as no action at all was taken (maybe they get this a lot).
Discussions with the policemen/women I know indicates this happens in many cases- numbers/percent’s not given through – annoyingly.

I know someone who visited his soon to be ex-wife at the house where he used to live - with a little hidden pen camera (with mic) running merrily away. She called the police later and said he was threatening her, and she felt uneasy about him being anywhere near the house.
Later that evening - the police came round to his flat and were ready to read the riot act - he just said - "watch this officer". She is now known as an unreliable witness, and no further action would be taken.
As a parting shot she got rid of £5k worth of his Snap-On/Britool goodies and denies all knowledge of it. There were witnesses she’s done it as well. Why use a car boot sale 2 miles from where you live? How stupid….! Nothing can be done apparently…
Divorce belongs to the ruthless.

SBDJ

1,321 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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anonymous said:
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Trolley jack. I had to do it recently when the ex's friend blocked the driveway so I couldn't get my motorbike out. Oddly she didn't even notice I'd moved it!

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

124 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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just ploughing through this reminds me of a tale of mad women in the last stages of marriage.

My brother in law went on a stag day/night. must have come home in a state, banging about. his first wife is not there in the morning, had gone to work.

thinks nothing of it. doesn't speak to her during the day- this is pre-mobile phone days.

so Dave thinks, right, I'll do something postive to redeem myself. I'll paint the outside of the house.


He is up a set of ladders, painting the fascia boards or something, when her car, an MG soft top to give it context, rolls onto the drive at speed.

doesn't slow.

She drives the ladders out from beneath him completely with her car.

parks the car and just goes in the house.


I'm pretty sure they were divorced soon after. Oh and although this is 30 years ago: not much has changed, she kept the farm.