Divorcing empty nesters...

Divorcing empty nesters...

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berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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MG CHRIS said:
singlecoil said:
johnwilliams77 said:
moleamol said:
This is probably a foreign concept to many PHers but maybe they actually love their soon to be wife and want to make them happy. I know that sounds wacky on a forum where most would rather keep their partner in a vivarium but some of us actually like them.
They love their wife but wish their soon to be wifes would be happy getting married on a beach somewhere instead of forking out 20-30k to pay for few hundred people to eat lots and get drunk.
The more guests, the more people there to admire her.

And the more people to be impressed at how bad her friends the bridesmaids look in the ghastly dresses she has chosen for them.
This its a massive willy waving contest but for women look how much money ive spent etc etc. My mates getting married next year to his long term girlfriend cost easy 20k+ 85 people attending costing for the reception £92 each and that's just the start of it. The best thing he always popping down my unit on a weekend to get away from her due to x,y.z, Both got good paying jobs for the area hes on 35k and shes on 25k plus overtime but he said too me the cost of the wedding could have paid his mortgage off at the age of 24.
Its one thing I will never accept is to get married I rather be on my own and single over married then divorced and then screwed over.
PH, misogyny matters.

singlecoil

33,628 posts

246 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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berlintaxi said:
PH, misogyny matters.
rolleyes

TwigtheWonderkid

43,386 posts

150 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Our wedding cost £300. I could have brought it in for £250 but it's a special day so I thought "fk it, let's go for it".

HTP99

22,558 posts

140 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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The problem with these big weddings and Bridezilla's is that they spend more time and effort on the wedding as opposed to the actual marriage and that is a sure fire recipe for disaster.

oldbanger

4,316 posts

238 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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I probably shouldn't comment as most people who know me would agree that I am aa mad as a box of frogs. However I funded both my weddings myself, on a budget. Not all women care about the wedding.

turbobloke

103,963 posts

260 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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HTP99 said:
The problem with these big weddings and Bridezilla's is that they spend more time and effort on the wedding as opposed to the actual marriage and that is a sure fire recipe for disaster.
After all, it's only their first wedding wink

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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on a nice note, beat this for a wedding.

A very dear friend of mine turned 40. His wife blindfolded him and put him in the car, said she had a treat for him.

the car set off and he said, even though blindfolded, you could feel which way you were going, could gauge traffic lights etc.

He got very excited- he could tell they were heading to the Kawasaki centre- he thought Hooray, she's bought me a new bike for my birthday !!

the car however pulled up outside the registry office ( a few yards away! ) where family and friends were waiting outside.

so they got married smile

He was quite happy with this !


I will say with regard to expensive fancy weddings: being a Yorkshireman, I always think, well very nice, but if you live in a grotty flat/house: why not sort out somewhere nice to live as oppose to blowing 20/30K ?

bristolracer

5,541 posts

149 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Take care that you stay calm,i had all the "aggressive behaviour" nonsense chucked at me,it is easily believed by the courts and cafcas, Keep a diary and any other evidence you can gather. I used to use text messaging as a way of communicating with my ex,It stopped you biting back and you had a record of it.

Take care best wishes



CoolHands

18,652 posts

195 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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I think our reception dinner etc for 70 guests was under 3 grand. Plus long weekend in Italy, so overall not very expensive. Can't see why people spend 10s of thousands.

Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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austinsmirk said:
on a nice note, beat this for a wedding.

A very dear friend of mine turned 40. His wife blindfolded him and put him in the car, said she had a treat for him.

the car set off and he said, even though blindfolded, you could feel which way you were going, could gauge traffic lights etc.

He got very excited- he could tell they were heading to the Kawasaki centre- he thought Hooray, she's bought me a new bike for my birthday !!

the car however pulled up outside the registry office ( a few yards away! ) where family and friends were waiting outside.

so they got married smile

He was quite happy with this !


I will say with regard to expensive fancy weddings: being a Yorkshireman, I always think, well very nice, but if you live in a grotty flat/house: why not sort out somewhere nice to live as oppose to blowing 20/30K ?
Isn't that a similar approach to how the navy used to recruit unwitting sailors?

Sheets Tabuer

18,963 posts

215 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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anonymous said:
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They don't need a reason, my ex used to tell me when we disagreed on the phone to listen for a second then proceeded to call the police saying I was making threats against her while I listened on the mobile. She used to call the police saying I forced myself in her house when I arrived to pick up my daughter even though I stayed in the car.

None of it ever happened but who do they believe?

Handily after a year of her calling the police she has enough ammo to apply for a non molestation order, I've done jack st to the woman!

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

116 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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anonymous said:
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A tactic i use, is too simply intentionally yawn and over exaggerate as much as possible. They soon realize I am not interested and usually stop moaning and shouting. Works with blokes as well. Had a number of escalation points were i knew things were getting out of hand and i just yawned. Things quickly get defused from there.

Hope this helps, are you taking your son to rugby with his new boots?





TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Tonker is your wife actually mentally ok? (posted before read whole thread)

She sounds not right in the head, excuse the question, but did she just go unreasonable overnight?

I used to read these threads and think how stable my misses was...then she changed and started being unreasonable and a bit nuts. Some of the arguments I read on here resonated with me and she went mental at me over the slightest thing. Anyway following a blood test for something else the GP noticed an unusual blood count and found some of her Iron and thyroid levels were really low and also she has been diagnosed with an untreatable autoimmune disease. Following the tests and treatment she is back to her old self (well nearly) and accepts she is nuts at time, the consultant actually warns me of unreasonable behaviour.

I do actually feel for you, reading through your posts I've been there myself, your lip must be well and truly bitten off

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

242 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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anonymous said:
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You utter beast. The poor woman.

I understand the good people of Alleppo are having a whip round for her.

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

116 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Has she actually insured the car yet, did she just pay the first price on offer BTW?

Women!

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

116 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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anonymous said:
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Its just a case of wills, which one will break first. Marriage is warfare, whichever way you cut it i am afraid, one person always has a higher hand and you just have to play it out.

  1. KeepFighting
  2. ItWillResolve

WestyCarl

3,257 posts

125 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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AndStilliRise said:
Its just a case of wills, which one will break first. Marriage is warfare, whichever way you cut it i am afraid, one person always has a higher hand and you just have to play it out.

  1. KeepFighting
  2. ItWillResolve
Single?

oldbanger

4,316 posts

238 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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anonymous said:
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Tonker

If you wish to diffuse this, then it's worth watching your tone of voice and body language. Highly aroused people (as in anxious, angry etc.) cannot process the verbal element quickly and so they latch onto non-verbal signals like tone, gestures and posture to discern content and meaning of communication. Because they can't think flexibly they then can't easily revise that judgement once the brain processes what you actually said (or did) and they get stuck with their snap misjudgement or over-reaction.

I am going to reiterate that improving conflict resolution/negotiation skills could be really useful here. It's not about rolling over and letting her win, or about treading on eggshells to make sure you don't set her off. It's about finding a way to assert yourself that may lead to a workable solution between the two of you, and also about turning this horrible experience into an opportunity to hone skills that will make you an even better professionally than you already are. Where is the loss in that?




ribiero

548 posts

166 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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austinsmirk said:
on a nice note, beat this for a wedding.

A very dear friend of mine turned 40. His wife blindfolded him and put him in the car, said she had a treat for him.

the car set off and he said, even though blindfolded, you could feel which way you were going, could gauge traffic lights etc.

He got very excited- he could tell they were heading to the Kawasaki centre- he thought Hooray, she's bought me a new bike for my birthday !!

the car however pulled up outside the registry office ( a few yards away! ) where family and friends were waiting outside.

so they got married smile

He was quite happy with this !
Isn't that technically a shotgun wedding? getmecoat

singlecoil

33,628 posts

246 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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oldbanger said:
Tonker

If you wish to diffuse this, then it's worth watching your tone of voice and body language. Highly aroused people (as in anxious, angry etc.) cannot process the verbal element quickly and so they latch onto non-verbal signals like tone, gestures and posture to discern content and meaning of communication. Because they can't think flexibly they then can't easily revise that judgement once the brain processes what you actually said (or did) and they get stuck with their snap misjudgement or over-reaction.

I am going to reiterate that improving conflict resolution/negotiation skills could be really useful here. It's not about rolling over and letting her win, or about treading on eggshells to make sure you don't set her off. It's about finding a way to assert yourself that may lead to a workable solution between the two of you, and also about turning this horrible experience into an opportunity to hone skills that will make you an even better professionally than you already are. Where is the loss in that?
That all rings very true.