Divorcing empty nesters...

Divorcing empty nesters...

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CoolHands

18,749 posts

196 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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I find everything about this thread so depressing

Buster73

5,077 posts

154 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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singlecoil said:
Are we to understand that your son is in your sole care until she arrives? If that's the case how do you get to simply leave if she doesn't arrive on time?
Take him to work ?

ClaphamGT3

11,324 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Leave him in the new house with the new Girlfriend - they've got to meet sooner or later.....

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Leave him in the new house with the new Girlfriend - they've got to meet sooner or later.....
Hopefully the girlfriend is hotter and younger than the ex? Ex wives love it when that happens.....

singlecoil

33,795 posts

247 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Joey Deacon said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Leave him in the new house with the new Girlfriend - they've got to meet sooner or later.....
Hopefully the girlfriend is hotter and younger than the ex? Ex wives love it when that happens.....
Because it proves that the girlfriend is mercenary and the ex is a fool.

Targarama

14,636 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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singlecoil said:
anonymous said:
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Are we to understand that your son is in your sole care until she arrives? If that's the case how do you get to simply leave if she doesn't arrive on time?
'Neither of us will be here' - he will take the lad with him to work or wherever.

Cold

15,261 posts

91 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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CoolHands said:
I find everything about this thread so depressing
Such is life. No one gets out unscathed or alive.

AstonZagato

12,727 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Joey Deacon said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Leave him in the new house with the new Girlfriend - they've got to meet sooner or later.....
Hopefully the girlfriend is hotter and younger than the ex? Ex wives love it when that happens.....
Not just ex-wives. A mate is getting divorced. My wife has never met his soon-to-be-ex-wife. But she has met the new squeeze, who is young, slim and attractive. She is also super-smart and fun. My wife (who likes most women) doesn't like her. At. All.

I'm convinced it is nothing to do with who the new woman is but rather what she represents.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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AstonZagato said:
Not just ex-wives. A mate is getting divorced. My wife has never met his soon-to-be-ex-wife. But she has met the new squeeze, who is young, slim and attractive. She is also super-smart and fun. My wife (who likes most women) doesn't like her. At. All.

I'm convinced it is nothing to do with who the new woman is but rather what she represents.
Or that you may get the same idea (upgrading for something younger)

zarjaz1991

3,501 posts

124 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Buster73 said:
Take him to work ?
Ugh! People taking their children to work. Just....ugh....those who can't sort out suitable childcare arrangements should just stay at home ffs.

I am sick of other people's children being foisted into adult environments and then everybody else having to make allowances, change what they do, etc etc.

Children have no place in a workplace, and any responsible employer won't allow it, workplace health and safety is geared towards adults, not small children running around.

Cold

15,261 posts

91 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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zarjaz1991 said:
Ugh! People taking their children to work. Just....ugh....those who can't sort out suitable childcare arrangements should just stay at home ffs.

I am sick of other people's children being foisted into adult environments and then everybody else having to make allowances, change what they do, etc etc.

Children have no place in a workplace, and any responsible employer won't allow it, workplace health and safety is geared towards adults, not small children running around.
I agree. Especially for teachers.

AstonZagato

12,727 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
AstonZagato said:
Not just ex-wives. A mate is getting divorced. My wife has never met his soon-to-be-ex-wife. But she has met the new squeeze, who is young, slim and attractive. She is also super-smart and fun. My wife (who likes most women) doesn't like her. At. All.

I'm convinced it is nothing to do with who the new woman is but rather what she represents.
Or that you may get the same idea (upgrading for something younger)
That's what I meant - she represents the ever present threat that a silver-fox, charming, wealthy, George Clooney look-alike such as myself could head off into the sunset with a supermodel.

randlemarcus

13,530 posts

232 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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AstonZagato said:
That's what I meant - she represents the ever present threat that a silver-fox, charming, wealthy, George Clooney look-alike such as myself could head off into the sunset with a supermodel.
Just tell her you've asked Jolie, she's not up for it, so "you're safe for the minute, poppet". They love that.

AstonZagato

12,727 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Or refer to her as "The current Mrs AZ".

yajeed

4,899 posts

255 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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anonymous said:
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Not unsurprising. The fact you actually got to speak to someone to confirm that, is, however.

I called daily for 2 weeks without them answering the phone (their queueing system unceremoniously drops calls after 30 mins waiting).

When I finally got through (turn out they were upgrading the phone system and hadn't told anyone it wasn't working in the interim) they hung up accidentally. That was not a good day...


PAUL500

2,650 posts

247 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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I hate to say I told you so, but.......

Now the thing is, if you think your life has been a nightmare so far then welcome to the world of pain that is the financial order process via the courts.

You will be expected to jump through a mountain of hoops, with punishment of death if you fail to comply, where as your wife, well if she does not bother doing the same, then that's ok in the judges eyes, no harm done.

Her solicitor will convince her to drag it all the way to the final hearing, ching ching £££££££ so you are at least a year away from that at this point in time.

Chances are that they are already monitoring this thread, my exes was scouring all my ph posts, she was tracking my every move on the net using my email address.

A ph post even made a guest appearance in her barristers questioning of me at the final hearing!

Edited by PAUL500 on Monday 10th April 22:31

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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No, but you can hire someone to shoot it.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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Only if you don't get found out...

I think Gumtree can help.

PAUL500

2,650 posts

247 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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That will all be washed over in court, however you simply being 5 mins late to collect your son due to traffic will be treated as abandonment.

Logic, fairness and common sense are a one way street in family law when you enter the court service with it, and you are on the wrong side of that street simply by being the dad. You really need to accept that now otherwise the events of the next 12 months will eat you away inside.

Been there, seen the film, read the book, I didn't listen to anyone at the time either who had come out the other side battered and bruised, as I believed justice and integrity would shine through, not a chance.

Forget the process you normally follow in your law profession, that type of law does not apply in family courts.

Your post above shows how totally blinkered you are regarding the events that are unfolding around you.

Already I can see things that have happened involving you in this thread, in your own words, which can and will be twisted in court to state you are controlling, domineering, they will even claim you bullied your poor emotionally defenceless little wife. You have said already you are a large guy, boom there you go, take one look at you and it must then be true.

Throughout all this you have to sit there and listen and not be allowed to say a word, dare to speak out when the bullst flows and the judge will threaten to remove you from the court, yes that happened to me when I could hold it in no longer when the lies were being spouted.

I have mentioned it a few times now, her brief told the judge I had undeclared assets, namely a Tristar (google it if you don't know what one is , he didn't) my Tristar was then listed in the judges summing up, even after I made him aware I would have struggled to stash said wide bodied jet in my garage with all the other priceless artifacts they claimed I owned in there) Where did this all come from? it was a simple little joke I made on ph about buying one to restore when the RAF were pensioning theirs off.

No proof needed, the brief just says it, the judge notes it down, and weeks later when the judge pens his summing up, he has forgotten who you even are and it becomes hard fact and you are labelled as the typical bad guy dad.

He is not going to risk his pension by siding with you, far easier to support whatever the mum says and placate her with your ££££ no comebacks then.

Smucks like us are being processed through the family courts system in hundreds everyday around the country, the outcome is standard practice, its a conveyor belt to clear the backlog.

Have they agreed to release any of the funds back to you from the house sale yet?

If not you need to accept you will be luckily to get 40% at best in a year or so's time.




Edited by PAUL500 on Tuesday 11th April 10:59

PAUL500

2,650 posts

247 months

Tuesday 11th April 2017
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olly22n said:
I'm keen to see how a competent law man navigates his way through this.

my method was to capitulate gave her a significant chunk more than she asked for and we were done and dusted in 6 months.
You could be Perry Mason, it makes no difference.

I am a quantity surveyor, and have been formulating legal contractual documentation for financial disputes for over 30 years now, I was in the Persian Gulf 8 weeks after the first war, putting together force majeure claims in their multi millions of dollars.

I went into the final hearing with 3 a4 fullscap folders worth of hard evidence disputing every claim made.

The judge did not even want to open them up! the amount of evidence I provided was even used against me, claims being made I was wasting the courts time by presenting such vast amounts.

Family Law is so open to interpretation that have 10 judges in a room, all listening to the same thing, with access to the same documentation and you will have 10 very different summing ups.

The outcome however will always be the same regardless when children are in the mix, that is sweeten the mother by giving her way more £££ than she needs, by dipping into the dads share, his kids can however just sleep on the camp bed in the one bed rented flat above the kebab shop whenever they visit.