911. Do People Actually Believe This S**t?
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GreigM said:
scherzkeks said:
And, freefall is, as a scientific fact, indisputable. The question now is whether the crime will ever be treated as such and investigated properly.
NIST addressed this extensively. There were effectively 3 phases in the fall of the buildingscherzkeks said:
GreigM said:
scherzkeks said:
And, freefall is, as a scientific fact, indisputable. The question now is whether the crime will ever be treated as such and investigated properly.
NIST addressed this extensively. There were effectively 3 phases in the fall of the building:tap tap: is this thing working!
Schezerks - right we know what you have been told to believe, Have you actually thought for yourself? Because Winston is asking a good question, and you are deliberately ignoring it, and just parroting something you have been told, without showing much comprehension of the wider issues, Just the usual theory headlines,
So if you'd be so kind, can you at least make a guess at Winston's question?
So if you'd be so kind, can you at least make a guess at Winston's question?
WinstonWolf said:
Ah good, you're back. How did they rig the building for explosion with NO ONE noticing?
They were all paid to keep quiet, all 40,000 people who regularly used the building. Duh!Actually, no wait. The explosives were planted when the building was constructed, just in case, y'know.
scherzkeks said:
Yes, all in the link I posted on page 5. You can thank AE for NIST's admission. Freefall is scientific fact, now found in the NIST report. The rest will follow.
At some point, regardless of material falls from a great height it will generally enter a "free fall" stage. That's basic physics. Stating it doesn't make your case. Basic understanding of the fall shows that the acceleration of the building didn't match that of an explosives demolition. NIST only addressed it to try and stop some of the absolute crackpot theories. kji7 said:
They were all paid to keep quiet, all 40,000 people who regularly used the building. Duh!
"We're going to blow up the place you work and the surrounding area, thousands will die, including your colleagues and possibly you. How much do you want to keep schtum?""$50 should do it...."
Vocal Minority said:
Schezerks - right we know what you have been told to believe, Have you actually thought for yourself? Because Winston is asking a good question, and you are deliberately ignoring it, and just parroting something you have been told, without showing much comprehension of the wider issues, Just the usual theory headlines,
So if you'd be so kind, can you at least make a guess at Winston's question?
I am interested only in the science. I leave crackpot conspiracies to those who'd dream them up. So if you'd be so kind, can you at least make a guess at Winston's question?
scherzkeks said:
Vocal Minority said:
Schezerks - right we know what you have been told to believe, Have you actually thought for yourself? Because Winston is asking a good question, and you are deliberately ignoring it, and just parroting something you have been told, without showing much comprehension of the wider issues, Just the usual theory headlines,
So if you'd be so kind, can you at least make a guess at Winston's question?
I am interested only in the science. I leave crackpot conspiracies to those who'd dream them up. So if you'd be so kind, can you at least make a guess at Winston's question?
I read a good book some years ago discussing the conspiracies with 9/11, but I cannot remember it's name. It centered round the ideas the conspiracy was either "make it happen" or "let it happen", and leant toward the "let it happen. If I remember rightly it stated due to the military exercises occurring that day, only two or three people would have to know it was happening. Everything else would be found during the exercise and evolve accordingly.
Now if this was the case, what better symbol to convince the US public war was necessary than the sight of the burning towers which may have burned for days. Using those burning r mongerint propoganda. The towers ablaze is the image that stays with me....watching the impacts seem quite surreal even now. Their collapse, if the idea is to be believed was certainly not planned for and somewhat spoiled the intent.
Anyone else read this book, and what was it called??
Now if this was the case, what better symbol to convince the US public war was necessary than the sight of the burning towers which may have burned for days. Using those burning r mongerint propoganda. The towers ablaze is the image that stays with me....watching the impacts seem quite surreal even now. Their collapse, if the idea is to be believed was certainly not planned for and somewhat spoiled the intent.
Anyone else read this book, and what was it called??
mattyn1 said:
I read a good book some years ago discussing the conspiracies with 9/11, but I cannot remember it's name. It centered round the ideas the conspiracy was either "make it happen" or "let it happen", and leant toward the "let it happen. If I remember rightly it stated due to the military exercises occurring that day, only two or three people would have to know it was happening. Everything else would be found during the exercise and evolve accordingly.
Now if this was the case, what better symbol to convince the US public war was necessary than the sight of the burning towers which may have burned for days. Using those burning r mongerint propoganda. The towers ablaze is the image that stays with me....watching the impacts seem quite surreal even now. Their collapse, if the idea is to be believed was certainly not planned for and somewhat spoiled the intent.
Anyone else read this book, and what was it called??
Considering that the raison d'etre of the neocon movement was to expand American power for the next 100 years and that they (PNAC) openly called for a new Pearl Harbor event to spark the nation to action, the idea of either scenario occurring would not be hard to fathom. Impossible to prove, unfortunately.Now if this was the case, what better symbol to convince the US public war was necessary than the sight of the burning towers which may have burned for days. Using those burning r mongerint propoganda. The towers ablaze is the image that stays with me....watching the impacts seem quite surreal even now. Their collapse, if the idea is to be believed was certainly not planned for and somewhat spoiled the intent.
Anyone else read this book, and what was it called??
To quote Shrub: "I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." On a humorous note,
Zbigniew Brzezinski just came out with a piece claiming the neocon era is over, and that America needs to accept that the world is multipolar. How sad.
WinstonWolf said:
scherzkeks said:
I am interested only in the science. I leave crackpot conspiracies to those who'd dream them up.
Scientifically, how did the explosives get there with NO ONE noticing?scherzkeks said:
Hence why NIST's forced admission of freefall is so critical. There is no way freefall could have occured unless all supports gave out at once.
"Office fires"
Take a look at this video."Office fires"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PpsCCTMP8w
At 5:38 the video shows the same footage as in the gif. However, the filmaker then shows the preceding few seconds, which are always cut out from truther's gifs.
You clearly see the Penthouse on the roof collapse before the building goes.
mattyn1 said:
I read a good book some years ago discussing the conspiracies with 9/11, but I cannot remember it's name. It centered round the ideas the conspiracy was either "make it happen" or "let it happen", and leant toward the "let it happen. If I remember rightly it stated due to the military exercises occurring that day, only two or three people would have to know it was happening. Everything else would be found during the exercise and evolve accordingly.
Out of interest, is the books starting point 'was there conspiracy' or is it 'there was conspiracy, we just have to decide which'?Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff