Having a Baby.... What do we NEED?
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Getting this back on track, and lightening the mood of this thread...
OP... one thing you NEED is to realise how fast time flies with kids. Everyone said it to us. I thought I "got it". I really had no idea.
It seems like only yesterday that we were going through the same thoughts as you. Now, three and a bit years later, our we are looking at primary schools!
It's been mentioned before, but I wanted to reiterate the importance of time... it's disappears rather quickly!
OP... one thing you NEED is to realise how fast time flies with kids. Everyone said it to us. I thought I "got it". I really had no idea.
It seems like only yesterday that we were going through the same thoughts as you. Now, three and a bit years later, our we are looking at primary schools!
It's been mentioned before, but I wanted to reiterate the importance of time... it's disappears rather quickly!
Hugo a Gogo said:
i'm more concerned with being told I'm a gobs
te talking bks
normally that's a fair call, but not on this
I'm not sure why it's my fault that you're a dte talking bksnormally that's a fair call, but not on this
head? Take responsibility for what you're saying and putting forward if these genuinely are your thoughts, and not just s
t you read on the NHS welcome pack. Move on - you're a boring broken record on this and everyone's said while they agree we'd all like to breastfeed, if it doesnt work out it's time for plan Bwiggy001 said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
vitriol? quote some, please
Hugo a Gogo said:
I'm restraining myself from simply telling you go fk yourself, you prick
But I digress...t and justifying it with bks' - not vitriol about breastfeeding, about someone acting like a prickwiggy001 said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
the guy's told me i'm talking st, bks, total bks, gobste
You stated as fact that "breast is best". No exceptions. Everyone must abide. And it sounds like it's worked for you in the past. Great.t, bks, total bks, gobsteBut you singlehandedly failed to realise that breast isn't best for a lot of new mums. For those that can't express, who are then put under massive pressure to do something they physically can't, whilst being told their newborn will be taken away from them because they are losing too much weight, thuse putting massive stress on the baby that is completely unnecessary.... for those women, breast most certainly isn't best.
So, and here's my malice, you can shove your facts and condescension where it hurts. You've made your opinion clear, the rest of us have made ours, now can we please get this thread back to being useful?
a very small percentage of women can't do it, obviously they have to go to bottles
I've never put anyone under pressure, for everyone here talking about using bottles that ship has sailed, so where's the pressure?
as you say, only my opinions, and you kindly tell me to shove them, and andy says I'm talking s
t - I'm not allowed an opinionclearly midwives are trying very hard to persuade as many women as possible to keep trying breastfeeding because once you stop, that's it, you can't go back
not because they are the gestapo or whatever other crap
and this ridiculous 'we don't need facts', 'no choices are wrong' attitude is laughable
so get on with it, do what you like, but don't tell me I'm talking s
t
It arrived!!!!
Baby boy now 8 days old.
Going well so far a few hitches with breast feeding and without wanting to reignite the above 'debate' I have a few questions!
Basically wife is having no issues actually feeding him, but isn't producing enough milk. We struggled through the first 5 days purely on breast but he was losing weight, so we've been supplementing with ready made formula.
So if making your own from powder how do you do it?
Can you make a batch n keep in the fridge for 24 hours or do you have to do bottles only when needed?
Also the sterilizer - microwave one says if you keep it sealed it's good for 24 hours for keeping anything in it sterile, however if you open it things are no longer sterile - so what's the point of doing more than one bottle in the sterilizer?
Baby boy now 8 days old.
Going well so far a few hitches with breast feeding and without wanting to reignite the above 'debate' I have a few questions!
Basically wife is having no issues actually feeding him, but isn't producing enough milk. We struggled through the first 5 days purely on breast but he was losing weight, so we've been supplementing with ready made formula.
So if making your own from powder how do you do it?
Can you make a batch n keep in the fridge for 24 hours or do you have to do bottles only when needed?
Also the sterilizer - microwave one says if you keep it sealed it's good for 24 hours for keeping anything in it sterile, however if you open it things are no longer sterile - so what's the point of doing more than one bottle in the sterilizer?
Congratulations.
Good luck. It will get easier, eventually.
Dan_1981 said:
Basically wife is having no issues actually feeding him, but isn't producing enough milk.
Pump might help with this if you don't have one, but YMMV.Dan_1981 said:
So if making your own from powder how do you do it?
Can you make a batch n keep in the fridge for 24 hours or do you have to do bottles only when needed?
No. You can spoon the stuff out into the bottles ahead of time, but sterilising isn't supposed to be done in advance. As the weeks and months pass your tolerance for this will likely wane, but it's not the done thing. If you're feeling flush / struggling there are machines that make it up for you.Can you make a batch n keep in the fridge for 24 hours or do you have to do bottles only when needed?
Dan_1981 said:
Also the sterilizer - microwave one says if you keep it sealed it's good for 24 hours for keeping anything in it sterile, however if you open it things are no longer sterile - so what's the point of doing more than one bottle in the sterilizer?
Yep. It's enough to drive you mad. Do your best, don't beat yourself up over it. What I did was a couple at a time, whip them out and quickly close up the bottles without touching any of the insides or seals.Good luck. It will get easier, eventually.
Congratulations! Enjoy fatherhood and no matter what the good times will aways outweigh the times you feel like a brain dead zombie after minimal sleep.
I know this isn't the recommended way and you can buy special machines that make and cool your formula milk and cool it down. But they are fking expensive and we didn't have the time to let boiled water cool down when RosscoPCole Jr was crying because he was hungry.
We poured the correct amount of boiling water into freshly sterilised bottles and put the lids back on. The powder was measured out into a dispenser. We used Aprimil powdered milk. The bottles and dispenser were brought up to our bedroom and when we needed a bottle of milk we dispensed the correct amount of powder into a bottle gave it a very good shake and fed Junior. Took seconds to prepare and a lot less stressful. Another useful purchase, if you life in a hard water area, is a filter kettle as tiny pieces of limescale often clogged the bottle teat. We were descaling our old kettle once a week and bottles were still clogging. Took ages to figure this out. We had an electric steriliser and kept the bottles in it until needed. We sterilised twice a day, morning and evening.
I know this isn't the recommended way and you can buy special machines that make and cool your formula milk and cool it down. But they are f
king expensive and we didn't have the time to let boiled water cool down when RosscoPCole Jr was crying because he was hungry.We poured the correct amount of boiling water into freshly sterilised bottles and put the lids back on. The powder was measured out into a dispenser. We used Aprimil powdered milk. The bottles and dispenser were brought up to our bedroom and when we needed a bottle of milk we dispensed the correct amount of powder into a bottle gave it a very good shake and fed Junior. Took seconds to prepare and a lot less stressful. Another useful purchase, if you life in a hard water area, is a filter kettle as tiny pieces of limescale often clogged the bottle teat. We were descaling our old kettle once a week and bottles were still clogging. Took ages to figure this out. We had an electric steriliser and kept the bottles in it until needed. We sterilised twice a day, morning and evening.
Congrats. Our Boy was born 3 months ago and he arrived 6 weeks early. The wife wanted to breast feed and she really struggles expressing enough for the first week or so and when she started feeding him directly it was a bit hit and miss until things go going. What we did notice wad that he didn't seem to take much in one go and would be feeding every 1.5 - 2 hours. She did well and persevered for 10 weeks but was starting to struggle with sleep and even trying to keep some expressed in the fridge for me to help out in the nights she couldn't keep up as he grew. He been just on formula for nearly 2 weeks and the last few days has been on 5 ounces most feeds for last week and he definately seems to be sleeping longer. Whether that's the bigger feeds or the fact he's bigger now I don't know. We had bought a tommee tippee prep machine on recommendation from sister in law and whilst expensive, at 3 in the morning definately worth every penny. Especially a few night when I was trying to make a feed and was struggling counting to 4 scoops I was so tired, I don't know if I could have been trusted to make a bottle the right temp.
Eta we bought a sealable food box and use sterilising tablets and keep the bottles in there. You have to change the water every day, but easier than having to wait 3 minutes for the bottle to sterilise in the micro in the middle of the night.
Eta we bought a sealable food box and use sterilising tablets and keep the bottles in there. You have to change the water every day, but easier than having to wait 3 minutes for the bottle to sterilise in the micro in the middle of the night.
Edited by gazzarose on Saturday 10th December 22:53
Congrats. Enjoy it all!
Not everwoman can breastfeed there are ways if promoting the production of milk as said but obviously having a screaming starving baby is difficult enough. This happened with my ex wife and we went to the bottle pretty quick (milk not booze!)
Having a good kettle - for warming bottles is a godsend.
As is a good washing machine and lots of changes of clothes for all involved.
Don't forget to take time out for yourselves and let the grandparents give you some time off too.
Not everwoman can breastfeed there are ways if promoting the production of milk as said but obviously having a screaming starving baby is difficult enough. This happened with my ex wife and we went to the bottle pretty quick (milk not booze!)
Having a good kettle - for warming bottles is a godsend.
As is a good washing machine and lots of changes of clothes for all involved.
Don't forget to take time out for yourselves and let the grandparents give you some time off too.
Congrats. Great isn't it? I'm sat downstairs with our 5 week old waiting for her to sleep. The 4 year old is fast on. 
We use the MaM bottles, which sterilise themselves in the microwave. I just pop them back together tightly without touching the insides. To me that's pretty sterile.
Another vote for the perfect prep machine. I don't think it existed when the eldest was a baby. What a god send though. It prepares a 'hot shot' for you, which you spoon the formula into and then it tops it up with filtered cold water, the resultant bottle is meant to be body temperature.
It has transformed bottle feeding in my eyes. Awesome bit of kit.
We use the MaM bottles, which sterilise themselves in the microwave. I just pop them back together tightly without touching the insides. To me that's pretty sterile.
Another vote for the perfect prep machine. I don't think it existed when the eldest was a baby. What a god send though. It prepares a 'hot shot' for you, which you spoon the formula into and then it tops it up with filtered cold water, the resultant bottle is meant to be body temperature.
It has transformed bottle feeding in my eyes. Awesome bit of kit.
Thanks all.
Just done the 03:30!
Perfect prep sounds good for in and around the house & removes the need to store pre-prepared bottles.
What about when heading out? Do a couple in the perfect prep / by hand and take with you or take powder with you and find someway to make up on the road?!
Just done the 03:30!
Perfect prep sounds good for in and around the house & removes the need to store pre-prepared bottles.
What about when heading out? Do a couple in the perfect prep / by hand and take with you or take powder with you and find someway to make up on the road?!
Congratulations......
My father gave me the best piece of advice just after my son was born,he said,"I have just one piece of advice,ignore all well meaning advice.He is your child and yours alone,you do what you think is best as it is you who lives with the consequence".
My son is now 18 and the time has flown by.The older they get,the quicker time seems to pass.
There will always be another day at work,don't miss the important stuff like sports day etc because of it.
My father gave me the best piece of advice just after my son was born,he said,"I have just one piece of advice,ignore all well meaning advice.He is your child and yours alone,you do what you think is best as it is you who lives with the consequence".
My son is now 18 and the time has flown by.The older they get,the quicker time seems to pass.
There will always be another day at work,don't miss the important stuff like sports day etc because of it.
I've got a 2 year old and a 4 month old just now.
Sterilising - I use a micro steriliser and do 6 bottles at a time. I take them out as needed and reseal the steriliser to store them again.
Night feeds - I take up bottles of boiling water and reheat them as required using a bottle warmer before mixing in the powder.
Works for us. Both boys are happy and healthy.
Sterilising - I use a micro steriliser and do 6 bottles at a time. I take them out as needed and reseal the steriliser to store them again.
Night feeds - I take up bottles of boiling water and reheat them as required using a bottle warmer before mixing in the powder.
Works for us. Both boys are happy and healthy.
Sterile bottle, make up milk, shove in fridge, use within 24 hours.
Quick blast in microwave (make sure you mix it well because of hot spots) and you're fine.
The key is to use boiling water to dissolve the powder- you aren't using hot water to sterilise the bottle, just make sure any nasties in the milk are killed off.
Boil and cool water and use it to make up the majority of the milk so it is cold enought to immediately bung in the fridge.
Quick blast in microwave (make sure you mix it well because of hot spots) and you're fine.
The key is to use boiling water to dissolve the powder- you aren't using hot water to sterilise the bottle, just make sure any nasties in the milk are killed off.
Boil and cool water and use it to make up the majority of the milk so it is cold enought to immediately bung in the fridge.
Edited by littlegreenfairy on Sunday 11th December 20:37
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