Well I think I will turn Vegan!
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craigjm said:
Dont forget as a vegan then you will be removing all animal products from your life. Are you going to be throwing away your leather shoes? changing your car? changing your toothpaste? your washing powder? There are millions of products that you would not think contain animal products that suddenly should be off your list.
no its a toe dip in the water vegetarianism first like I said "I Think I will turn Vegan"
I decided to give those videos a quick flick through to give them the benefit of the doubt.
'Captain' Paul Watson appeared in it though so i had to turn it off unfortunately but from what i did see it all looked a bit tin hattery for me.
You mention that eating meat/dairy is being force taught to us to make huge profits, is this not the same as any marketing? Is there any evidence that eating meat/dairy is not good for us?
I'm struggling to see how such a meat lover can make such a sudden change after watching those two rather dire videos.
Fair play if that's what you want to do though.
'Captain' Paul Watson appeared in it though so i had to turn it off unfortunately but from what i did see it all looked a bit tin hattery for me.
You mention that eating meat/dairy is being force taught to us to make huge profits, is this not the same as any marketing? Is there any evidence that eating meat/dairy is not good for us?
I'm struggling to see how such a meat lover can make such a sudden change after watching those two rather dire videos.
Fair play if that's what you want to do though.
Well all I can say is best of luck to the OP. It's your choice mate and if you want to go down that route more power to you.
I only know one vegan. My mates ex wife. Picture of health she is. Really pale (nearly transparent), always has bags under her eyes and is that thin in the face one eye would do her. Maybe she's doing it wrong, I dunno.
fishseller said:
its all learnt behaviour promoted by the meat and dairy industries for big profits 
Some quality irony there! 
Meat and dairy is incredibly cheap for what it is. Too cheap!
The word "vegan" seems to add about 200% value to food when it's printed on the packaging.
Also, I know this isn't strictly a vegan thing, but why does everyone that works at Holland & Barratt look so unhealthy?
As long as there's fillet steak, carpaccio and blue cheese in the world, there's no danger of me becoming vegan or vegetarian.
However... Too few people know how their food actually arrives on their plate or in the supermarket, and where it's been on the way. Knowing even a little can subtly change your diet. Occasional different choices in restaurants, buying/trying different things. I certainly eat less meat (particularly chicken-shaped-objects) than I used to and more plant-based stuff.
You don't have to do the whole "I'm vegan/vegetarian" thing, partly because that can be just setting yourself up to fail. No shame in being "slightly vegetarian".
In defence of food by Michael Pollan is worth reading.
However... Too few people know how their food actually arrives on their plate or in the supermarket, and where it's been on the way. Knowing even a little can subtly change your diet. Occasional different choices in restaurants, buying/trying different things. I certainly eat less meat (particularly chicken-shaped-objects) than I used to and more plant-based stuff.
You don't have to do the whole "I'm vegan/vegetarian" thing, partly because that can be just setting yourself up to fail. No shame in being "slightly vegetarian".
In defence of food by Michael Pollan is worth reading.
fishseller said:
...but we are not built to eat or consume animal products.
Our dentition suggests otherwise - we're omniverous. I visited a wholesale butchers in Blackpool on business (security equipment) some years ago and that came close to turning off meat altogether. Another visit, this time to a chicken processing plant in Kent, was pretty nauseating too. Live chickens in and processed meat out the other end. Sadly they remained alive too far into the process for my liking. This was in the late sixties so things will have changed since - I hope.
Edited by motco on Monday 29th August 17:14
bigkeeko said:
Well all I can say is best of luck to the OP. It's your choice mate and if you want to go down that route more power to you.
I only know one vegan. My mates ex wife. Picture of health she is. Really pale (nearly transparent), always has bags under her eyes and is that thin in the face one eye would do her. Maybe she's doing it wrong, I dunno.
You can be vegan and eat utter sI only know one vegan. My mates ex wife. Picture of health she is. Really pale (nearly transparent), always has bags under her eyes and is that thin in the face one eye would do her. Maybe she's doing it wrong, I dunno.
t everyday the definition doesn't mean you are healthy Been a veggie for 32 years. Couldn't be vegan, I just don't eat enough of the stuff that makes up a vegan diet, without dairy I would have stopped bothering years ago.
Budweiser used to contain renet but it doesn't now.
I've been strict veggie for most of my life but if beer ever gets ruled out then frankly I'll lapse. I've deliberately avoided contributing to unnecessary cruelty in all that time but you stop me drinking beer and I might as well top meself. Not not much point in having a principle that stops you living, that's reserved for the religious idiots.
Budweiser used to contain renet but it doesn't now.
I've been strict veggie for most of my life but if beer ever gets ruled out then frankly I'll lapse. I've deliberately avoided contributing to unnecessary cruelty in all that time but you stop me drinking beer and I might as well top meself. Not not much point in having a principle that stops you living, that's reserved for the religious idiots.
The Food Revolution by John Robbins is a very good book to read if you want to go on the path to becoming vegan.
His father founded Baskin-Robbins and I think he ultimately rejected anything to do with the company or any money left to him.
From the post a few above what bread rolls can't you eat as a vegetarian?
Maybe some small indy bakers that use lard but you'd be pushed to get something from the supermarket you wouldn't eat?
His father founded Baskin-Robbins and I think he ultimately rejected anything to do with the company or any money left to him.
From the post a few above what bread rolls can't you eat as a vegetarian?
Maybe some small indy bakers that use lard but you'd be pushed to get something from the supermarket you wouldn't eat?
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