Just lost my eBay scam virginity!
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Sump said:
Have you tripple checked the item.
Drugs inside the item, gets delivered, thieves break into your place and take said drugs.
I wouldn't have even accepted it from the outset. The payment is likely to keep in touch with you to make sure you're still on radar whilst they perform the operation.
That's plain ridiculous. Drugs inside the item, gets delivered, thieves break into your place and take said drugs.
I wouldn't have even accepted it from the outset. The payment is likely to keep in touch with you to make sure you're still on radar whilst they perform the operation.
Inside the item there will be a gps tracking device a receiver and a transmitter, when the perps get to your house all they have to do is press a button and all of your cars will unlock and also your safe. I suggest you smash the item immediately with sledge hammer parcel it up and return to sender. HTH
Sump said:
Have you tripple checked the item.
Drugs inside the item, gets delivered, thieves break into your place and take said drugs.
I wouldn't have even accepted it from the outset. The payment is likely to keep in touch with you to make sure you're still on radar whilst they perform the operation.
He's right. Have you checked for very small Serbians hidden in the packaging?Drugs inside the item, gets delivered, thieves break into your place and take said drugs.
I wouldn't have even accepted it from the outset. The payment is likely to keep in touch with you to make sure you're still on radar whilst they perform the operation.
They break out at night, take the drugs and escape down your phone line leaving a trail that's detectable by their gangmasters who then break in and take back the pocket computer and use it again on some other poor unsuspecting ebayer.
Mark Benson said:
Sump said:
Have you tripple checked the item.
Drugs inside the item, gets delivered, thieves break into your place and take said drugs.
I wouldn't have even accepted it from the outset. The payment is likely to keep in touch with you to make sure you're still on radar whilst they perform the operation.
He's right. Have you checked for very small Serbians hidden in the packaging?Drugs inside the item, gets delivered, thieves break into your place and take said drugs.
I wouldn't have even accepted it from the outset. The payment is likely to keep in touch with you to make sure you're still on radar whilst they perform the operation.
They break out at night, take the drugs and escape down your phone line leaving a trail that's detectable by their gangmasters who then break in and take back the pocket computer and use it again on some other poor unsuspecting ebayer.
havoc said:
One thought - if he can provide POD that you've received the goods, will PayPal honour the original transaction?
If so, he then gets paid by you twice - the original disputed claim gets released, AFTER you've sent the 2nd payment...
That, in essence, my concern. I wouldn't send another payment unless the first is cancelled, which is still an option. I suppose he could then open a dispute with eBay but as there's no proof of delivery (the item was sent untracked) then he won't get very far. Maybe the best thing to do is to agree with him that I cancel the PayPal payment, he cancels the sale and I then send him the money separately via his email/PayPal.If so, he then gets paid by you twice - the original disputed claim gets released, AFTER you've sent the 2nd payment...
Thoughts?
judas said:
That, in essence, my concern. I wouldn't send another payment unless the first is cancelled, which is still an option. I suppose he could then open a dispute with eBay but as there's no proof of delivery (the item was sent untracked) then he won't get very far. Maybe the best thing to do is to agree with him that I cancel the PayPal payment, he cancels the sale and I then send him the money separately via his email/PayPal.
Thoughts?
I would get his address and offer to send a cheque or cash and thats it. Never open and account with any of these other transfer companies you never know who's tapping in. Thoughts?
My tip: do a google search on the paypal address you sent the payment to. There's a good chance you will find it, along with its login and password listed on a 'carding' site. Hackers dump thousands of login and passwords as a proof to would-be identity thieves that their product is genuine (you try and log in to a few of the accounts they provide and if enough of them work, you pay the hacker say £100 for a list of other logins that are not shared with anyone.
Then once you have all these paypal addresses you log in and change the destination for funds from the rightful owner's usual bank account to some other location of your choosing.
Then, you go about advertising lots of nice items for a good price that people are tempted by. Classified ads like Gumtree or Facebook buy/sell pages work best for this as the same item can be 'sold' over and over again. Take the money as soon as it arrives. The buyer will normally only start to get tetchy 3 days after the item is meant to be sent. Keep placating them with things like "I am too ill with flu to get to the post office" "my boss won't let me leave the office during working hours to take the wheels to the UPS centre" etc etc.
Eventually the buyer will open a case for "item not arrived" with PayPal. This now gives you, the vendor 14 working days to respond to the case. i.e 14 days to cash out and burn the paypal account. Eventually (30 days) PayPal will find in favour of the buyer and they will get their money back. So PayPal loses money, the buyer gets theirs back, and 'you' the fraudster are lying back on a beach sipping Mai Tais and rolling in money.
The reason I know - I got stung trying to buy a nice set of 90s Alloys off German ebay classifieds. 10 days of being fobbed off by the vendor with various excuses, all of which were fair at the time but after 10+ days of being told it was going to be posted the next day and then sitting here like a mug waiting for tracking details that never arrived... in the end I googled the paypal address that I had sent the funds to and I found out about a whole, massive underground world of paypal scamming. Shame I'm a man of morals otherwise I'd probably have rinsed it myself!
Then once you have all these paypal addresses you log in and change the destination for funds from the rightful owner's usual bank account to some other location of your choosing.
Then, you go about advertising lots of nice items for a good price that people are tempted by. Classified ads like Gumtree or Facebook buy/sell pages work best for this as the same item can be 'sold' over and over again. Take the money as soon as it arrives. The buyer will normally only start to get tetchy 3 days after the item is meant to be sent. Keep placating them with things like "I am too ill with flu to get to the post office" "my boss won't let me leave the office during working hours to take the wheels to the UPS centre" etc etc.
Eventually the buyer will open a case for "item not arrived" with PayPal. This now gives you, the vendor 14 working days to respond to the case. i.e 14 days to cash out and burn the paypal account. Eventually (30 days) PayPal will find in favour of the buyer and they will get their money back. So PayPal loses money, the buyer gets theirs back, and 'you' the fraudster are lying back on a beach sipping Mai Tais and rolling in money.
The reason I know - I got stung trying to buy a nice set of 90s Alloys off German ebay classifieds. 10 days of being fobbed off by the vendor with various excuses, all of which were fair at the time but after 10+ days of being told it was going to be posted the next day and then sitting here like a mug waiting for tracking details that never arrived... in the end I googled the paypal address that I had sent the funds to and I found out about a whole, massive underground world of paypal scamming. Shame I'm a man of morals otherwise I'd probably have rinsed it myself!
Edited by vsonix on Thursday 29th September 16:21
vsonix said:
My tip: do a google search on the paypal address you sent the payment to. There's a good chance you will find it, along with its login and password listed on a 'carding' site. Hackers dump thousands of login and passwords as a proof to would-be identity thieves that their product is genuine (you try and log in to a few of the accounts they provide and if enough of them work, you pay the hacker say £100 for a list of other logins that are not shared with anyone.
Then once you have all these paypal addresses you log in and change the destination for funds from the rightful owner's usual bank account to some other location of your choosing.
Then, you go about advertising lots of nice items for a good price that people are tempted by. Classified ads like Gumtree or Facebook buy/sell pages work best for this as the same item can be 'sold' over and over again. Take the money as soon as it arrives. The buyer will normally only start to get tetchy 3 days after the item is meant to be sent. Keep placating them with things like "I am too ill with flu to get to the post office" "my boss won't let me leave the office during working hours to take the wheels to the UPS centre" etc etc.
Eventually the buyer will open a case for "item not arrived" with PayPal. This now gives you, the vendor 14 working days to respond to the case. i.e 14 days to cash out and burn the paypal account. Eventually (30 days) PayPal will find in favour of the buyer and they will get their money back. So PayPal loses money, the buyer gets theirs back, and 'you' the fraudster are lying back on a beach sipping Mai Tais and rolling in money.
The reason I know - I got stung trying to buy a nice set of 90s Alloys off German ebay classifieds. 10 days of being fobbed off by the vendor with various excuses, all of which were fair at the time but after 10+ days of being told it was going to be posted the next day and then sitting here like a mug waiting for tracking details that never arrived... in the end I googled the paypal address that I had sent the funds to and I found out about a whole, massive underground world of paypal scamming. Shame I'm a man of morals otherwise I'd probably have rinsed it myself!
Unless I'm missing something, the OP is the buyer and has actually been sent the goods...Then once you have all these paypal addresses you log in and change the destination for funds from the rightful owner's usual bank account to some other location of your choosing.
Then, you go about advertising lots of nice items for a good price that people are tempted by. Classified ads like Gumtree or Facebook buy/sell pages work best for this as the same item can be 'sold' over and over again. Take the money as soon as it arrives. The buyer will normally only start to get tetchy 3 days after the item is meant to be sent. Keep placating them with things like "I am too ill with flu to get to the post office" "my boss won't let me leave the office during working hours to take the wheels to the UPS centre" etc etc.
Eventually the buyer will open a case for "item not arrived" with PayPal. This now gives you, the vendor 14 working days to respond to the case. i.e 14 days to cash out and burn the paypal account. Eventually (30 days) PayPal will find in favour of the buyer and they will get their money back. So PayPal loses money, the buyer gets theirs back, and 'you' the fraudster are lying back on a beach sipping Mai Tais and rolling in money.
The reason I know - I got stung trying to buy a nice set of 90s Alloys off German ebay classifieds. 10 days of being fobbed off by the vendor with various excuses, all of which were fair at the time but after 10+ days of being told it was going to be posted the next day and then sitting here like a mug waiting for tracking details that never arrived... in the end I googled the paypal address that I had sent the funds to and I found out about a whole, massive underground world of paypal scamming. Shame I'm a man of morals otherwise I'd probably have rinsed it myself!
Edited by vsonix on Thursday 29th September 16:21
Doesn't really sound like a classic scam to me tbh.
t together, fixed his Paypal issues and claimed the money. That should conclude things 
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