When after work drinks go wrong...

When after work drinks go wrong...

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Wacky Racer

38,099 posts

246 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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MadMullah said:
when i used to work as a doorman one of the most common things i used to hear from friends of someone who had just kicked off was "he's not normally like this. He's a nice guy normally"
The same with Led Zeppelin's drummer John Bonham, drink turned him into a raging monster.

In the end it was responsible for his death.



MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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desolate said:
We had someone die at one of our Christmas parties, whilst in fancy dress sleeping in someone else's room.

That was a fun filled morning sorting that out with the police and his family with and epic christmas party hangover.
Crikey.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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MarshPhantom said:
Crikey.
Yep

He had the best Noddy Holder costume I have seen outside of the real thing.


K12beano

20,854 posts

274 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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desolate said:
We had someone die at one of our Christmas parties....
In Full PH mode, we have to ask if he got sacked for that???

Otherwise - really sorry to hear that, but I guess it's always a possible consequence.

For advice to the OP, though, you can't control what other people do, drunk or sober, so best look after yourself - and if it means running away, or otherwise avoiding confrontation, that's the way to go!

Wacky Racer

38,099 posts

246 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Nanook said:
Wacky Racer said:
The same with Led Zeppelin's drummer John Bonham, drink turned him into a raging monster.

In the end it was responsible for his death.
I'm a huge Led Zep fan. I play mostly guitar, but a little bit of drums. Massive Bonzo fan, he was one of the best.

But the only thing responsible for John Bonham's death was John Bonham.
Well yes, true.



anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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K12beano said:
In Full PH mode, we have to ask if he got sacked for that???

Otherwise - really sorry to hear that, but I guess it's always a possible consequence.
He was a home worker salesman, but senior and established - he had to have an inquest so it was a bit delayed as was the (substantial) death in service payment to his wife.

We waited for it all to settle before asking for our files and equipment back to be told that she had thrown it all away.

Transpires she sold them to a competitor in their area.

So fk them!


This year someone fell down a flight of stairs and ended up with a bruised brain and lost his driving licence for 6 months.

We should reconsider our free bar policy really.

jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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'Avoid'

Ambleton

6,646 posts

191 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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What happens out of work stays out of work.

Nothing should happen. If your mates/pally just say on Monday that it was a crazy night that got a bit fiesta at the end and ask how his hangover was.

If you were out with other people and not work mates this is what you would do. Why should it be any different?

Still a better working relationship than Hamilton/rosberg

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Bristol spark said:
I know of a company who a few years ago wanted to reward all the staff with a free christmas party along with a "free bar"

Obviously some took advantage of this, and many shots later things were out of hand!!!

It ended up with 3 riot vans etc outside a nice country pub !!

I believe a few where sacked when they eventially turned up to work next.
I've seen exactly the same thing.

I used to work for a really big property company who threw great Christmas parties each year, but limited the invites to the few hundred office staff and only put a few bottles of free wine out on each table. The rest you had to buy yourself.

But one year, to celebrate doing really well, they hired a hotel, hired people to set up this big 'James Bond themed' casino in the bar, had guys there with those really cool driving simulator machines and loads of other stuff. It was free drink for most of the evening as well.

The downfall was inviting all the 'blue collar' staff, for want of a better description. All the property maintenance guys, the painters, the plumbers, the builders etc. They just went mad on the free bar and got really drunk. Before long some of the were grabbing and groping the arses of the office girls, using foul language at people, and eventually starting a couple of fights.

I believe 2 or 3 people were sacked on the Monday morning.

So to those that day you can't be sacked for your behaviour out of work, you can.

Ambleton

6,646 posts

191 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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NinjaPower said:
All the property maintenance guys, the painters, the plumbers, the builders etc. They just went mad on the free bar and got really drunk. Before long some of the were grabbing and groping the arses of the office girls, using foul language at people, and eventually starting a couple of fights.

I believe 2 or 3 people were sacked on the Monday morning.

So to those that day you can't be sacked for your behaviour out of work, you can.
In my experience, work organised parties are actually not "out of work", no matter what its dressed up as, everyone is being observed and standard work protocols should still largely be adhered to.

But the OP is describing something different - a group of people from the office deciding to go out as mates for a night out. The employer has nothing to do with it...

Monkeylegend

26,226 posts

230 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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[quote=Löyly]He'll be getting the sack for punching the manager so I wouldn't worry too much about seeing him again.
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Not related to work though is it? Seem like a few mates who happen to work at the same place getting drunk and having a bit of a girly punch up, with OP hitching his skirts and doing a runner. I don't see on what basis his company can sack him fairly.

Would be an interesting tribunal hearing, maybe there is a precedent for this.

Some Gump

12,671 posts

185 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Nanook said:
So funny! You make him sound like a woman, and that's hilarious!!!

Well done, such a funny man! I bet you're really hard!

rolleyes
To be fair, I'm hard having read it. Nothing more erotic than a drunken malcoordinated punch up between a bloke from accounts and the chap from IT.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

188 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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NinjaPower said:
The downfall was inviting all the 'blue collar' staff, for want of a better description. All the property maintenance guys, the painters, the plumbers, the builders etc. They just went mad on the free bar and got really drunk. Before long some of the were grabbing and groping the arses of the office girls, using foul language at people, and eventually starting a couple of fights.
It's normally the 'blue collar' staff that can handle their drink in my experience of Christmas parties etc. It's "Tim" from accounts that doesn't know how to behave on his one night out a year and ends up either upsetting Jill from HR or picking a fight with the 22 stone warehouse supervisor.

I've only ever seen it come to blows once & that was a lad punching a manager - he didn't make it beyond 9.30 on the Monday morning. The best bit of all though was when he was given his written warning & actually set fire to it in the officelaugh

Ari

19,328 posts

214 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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IanCormac said:
Why didn't you just put him on the floor instead of running away from him like a shrieking woman? You didn't need to beat him unconscious but I can't imagine why running away with your skirt flailing was in any way cool?
You'll find when you leave school that things are a little different.

In the playground it might be 'cool' to get into scraps, once you're an adult you'll learn (hopefully) that it's a very silly thing to do.

hora

37,010 posts

210 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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desolate said:
He was a home worker salesman, but senior and established - he had to have an inquest so it was a bit delayed as was the (substantial) death in service payment to his wife.

We waited for it all to settle before asking for our files and equipment back to be told that she had thrown it all away.

Transpires she sold them to a competitor in their area.

So fk them!


This year someone fell down a flight of stairs and ended up with a bruised brain and lost his driving licence for 6 months.

We should reconsider our free bar policy really.
Free bar policy?

Years ago in London I fell down approx 2floors of stairs in one go. It was a long set of stairs. I got up at the bottom and was promptly taken to one side for a strong coffee by two girls. My first words were 'are the stairs ok'?

When I hear of people tragically falling off tube platforms I can see why. I made it home on the tube network that night and many others biggrin

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Ambleton said:
In my experience, work organised parties are actually not "out of work", no matter what its dressed up as, everyone is being observed and standard work protocols should still largely be adhered to.

But the OP is describing something different - a group of people from the office deciding to go out as mates for a night out. The employer has nothing to do with it...
Where do you draw the line though for 'at work' or 'not at work'?

I've been to many informal work nights out where a senior manager has just asked a department if they fancy food and drinks after work, he's booked a restaurant and off we go. Is that a work function?

A Christmas party is a totally optional event same as after work drinks. You don't have to go.

My own opinion is that you should behave yourself in any situation that invokes work colleagues or the business itself, but others clearly disagree.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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northwest monkey said:
It's normally the 'blue collar' staff that can handle their drink in my experience of Christmas parties etc. It's "Tim" from accounts that doesn't know how to behave on his one night out a year and ends up either upsetting Jill from HR or picking a fight with the 22 stone warehouse supervisor.

I've only ever seen it come to blows once & that was a lad punching a manager - he didn't make it beyond 9.30 on the Monday morning. The best bit of all though was when he was given his written warning & actually set fire to it in the officelaugh
Erm... I'm called Tim biggrin

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

162 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Taita said:
I meant the OP smile
Sorry......I made an assumption.

This thread isn't about me and my dire situation...getmecoat

zarjaz1991

3,471 posts

122 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Another good reason why I never, ever join in any work social events.

They are people I work with, and that's only under sufferance. I don't want to voluntarily spend my free time with any of them. Or most people to be frank.

zarjaz1991

3,471 posts

122 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Nanook said:
I'm going out on Friday afternoon with colleagues.

We're all contactors. No staff coming with us. Good bunch of guys, we all get along well by having the same outlook and there are no numpties amongst us, they don't last.
To be fair that's quite an usual situation.

I don't like most people I work with...certainly I don't like them enough to want to go drinking with them, and if I'm honest I feel the same about most people generally. I'm not really a "people person" and I also don't like going out drinking!