When after work drinks go wrong...
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I know a guy who is a big drinker and has gone from a slim, normal bloke to having a massive beer belly and the complexion of a Ribena Berry, he drinks every night and then goes mental for big nights out, its weird as people sort of expect his "antics",
On the mic at a Christmas do shouts "You're all a bunch of
s"
Offering to "ruin" female colleagues
Shouting "Do you swallow" at a group of the HR ladies.
At the end of the day he has never touched anyone which I think is the line that cannot be crossed, words can be brushed off a bit more easily than anything physical, especially when almost everyone else is usually pissed anyway but more worringly I can see him living much longer, he looks utterly dreadful.
On the mic at a Christmas do shouts "You're all a bunch of
s"Offering to "ruin" female colleagues
Shouting "Do you swallow" at a group of the HR ladies.
At the end of the day he has never touched anyone which I think is the line that cannot be crossed, words can be brushed off a bit more easily than anything physical, especially when almost everyone else is usually pissed anyway but more worringly I can see him living much longer, he looks utterly dreadful.
Robbo 27 said:
Monkeylegend said:
I am sure millions of people have 
Only got into one, middle of the day, walking along, some nutter crossed the road and assaulted a woman walking behind me, ripped her dress, I pushed him, he hit me in the shoulder, I hit him on the nose and he ran off, not quiite Die Hard stuff. Woman ran off in the opposite direction, I am stood there thinking WTF did I do that for.Monkeylegend said:
CountZero23 said:
He then starts coming after me again which leads to me being chased down a few streets. Totally mental.
You should hand in your PH badge now, what has it come to when a PH'er runs away from a fight, standards are slipping.te posted here...
hora said:
Martial arts lessons?
Right someone at work wants to fight me. I'd want to avoid this at all costs and sort it out another day. It's just full of trouble and I can see why the OP thought 'get out of this/its ridiculous etc'.
I'm not a fighter but I know how to drop someone arm lock etc (I've even been on a training course with work and I have unfortunately had to use it).
However in the OPs position I don't see anything wrong. On the spot imagine you hit him back and it twisted into 'the OP assaulted me' etc etc and both or the OP was arrested then dearrested later? It's a potential FUBAR situation. So no I'm with the OP on his response.
Plus implications where you to smack him only for him to face plant the pavement and never wake up.Right someone at work wants to fight me. I'd want to avoid this at all costs and sort it out another day. It's just full of trouble and I can see why the OP thought 'get out of this/its ridiculous etc'.
I'm not a fighter but I know how to drop someone arm lock etc (I've even been on a training course with work and I have unfortunately had to use it).
However in the OPs position I don't see anything wrong. On the spot imagine you hit him back and it twisted into 'the OP assaulted me' etc etc and both or the OP was arrested then dearrested later? It's a potential FUBAR situation. So no I'm with the OP on his response.
On an organised work night out at my old work one of the lads ended up getting beaten up on his way home and then stopped for drink driving and subsequently banned for 2 years. Not sure that work knew as he would probably have been sacked!
On the same night, I managed to pull one my very attractive (and completely incompetent) team leader. It was never mentioned between us at work but it made things massively awkward between us until I left (completely unrelated).
I really enjoy socialising with colleagues, don't think there's ever really been too many issues aside from above
On the same night, I managed to pull one my very attractive (and completely incompetent) team leader. It was never mentioned between us at work but it made things massively awkward between us until I left (completely unrelated).
I really enjoy socialising with colleagues, don't think there's ever really been too many issues aside from above
NinjaPower said:
Don't be ridiculous. Martial arts lessons? Not everyone is interested in fighting.
I'm 36 and I've never been in a single fight in my life. Ever. Not even close. I would have thought most people would be similar.
If someone tried to start a fight with me in the street I would simply leave as quickly as possible. No point in staying in a situation where I might get my pretty face punched
Hmm your username is quite misleading then. Martial arts aren't so you can go around beating people up. It's to stop you from being beaten up. It's not always possible to just leave the scene unfortunately. You have obviously been lucky which is nice, but you never know when some numpty might start on you and being able to defend yourself is a useful skill. It's not like you go around starting fights or anything daft. For what it's worth I have been training in martial arts for a long time but my first priority would be to not be in the scenario in the first place due to reasonable awareness of when people are going to kick off and the next would be to remove myself from the scenario if at all possible. I'm 36 and I've never been in a single fight in my life. Ever. Not even close. I would have thought most people would be similar.
If someone tried to start a fight with me in the street I would simply leave as quickly as possible. No point in staying in a situation where I might get my pretty face punched
Edited by NinjaPower on Sunday 11th September 12:27
Edited by IanCormac on Sunday 11th September 13:47
IanCormac said:
Hmm your username is quite misleading then. Martial arts aren't so you can go around beating people up. It's to stop you from being beaten up. It's not always possible to just leave the scene unfortunately. You have obviously been lucky which is nice, but you never know when some numpty might start on you and being able to defend yourself is a useful skill. It's not like you go around starting fights or anything daft. For what it's worth I have been training in martial arts for a long time but my first priority would be to not be in the scenario in the first place due to reasonable awareness of when people are going to kick off and the next would be to remove myself from the scenario if at all possible.
Which is very sensible, and totally at odds with your first, sneering post :Edited by IanCormac on Sunday 11th September 13:47
IanCormac said:
Why didn't you just put him on the floor instead of running away from him like a shrieking woman? You didn't need to beat him unconscious but I can't imagine why running away with your skirt flailing was in any way cool?
So are you mr sensible, or billy big bks, today?
MadMullah said:
when i used to work as a doorman one of the most common things i used to hear from friends of someone who had just kicked off was "he's not normally like this. He's a nice guy normally"
After one of our summer picnics, where we had demolished all the free beer and wine, we staggered off to a club.The doorman had the good sense to spot our collective incapacity and told us we couldn't come in, up steps my MD, (a powerfully built director, played and coached rugby etc) to negotiate with the doorman who did a passable impression of a brick outhouse.
As he wasn't getting anywhere, he turned nasty, and tried to nut the doorman, I dragged him back, saving him from the inevitable shoeing, shouted for a colleague and then dragged/half carried him to the reception of the nearest holiday Inn and and asked if we could IT in.
On monday morning I just got a nod from the MD and a grilling by the HR crone, where I said I couldn't recall.
There was another Summer sales conference in Munich that didn't turn nasty but I awoke to find 15 colleagues in my double room, including 3 in the wardrobe, resulting in a 600 euro cleaning bill.
AW111 said:
IanCormac said:
For what it's worth I have been training in martial arts for a long time but my first priority would be to not be in the scenario in the first place due to reasonable awareness of when people are going to kick off and the next would be to remove myself from the scenario if at all possible.
Which is very sensible, and totally at odds with your first, sneering post :IanCormac said:
Why didn't you just put him on the floor instead of running away from him like a shrieking woman? You didn't need to beat him unconscious but I can't imagine why running away with your skirt flailing was in any way cool?
So are you mr sensible, or billy big bks, today?Still it wouldn't be PH without a martial arts 'expert' stepping in and telling us all how he'd take him out with his extensive training and no doubt powerfully built physique.
My training ended when I quit Judo in primary school though I have read Bravo Two Zero and watched the Matrix a few times so I'm sure I could of improvised.
That said I'm interested to know how to 'put him on the floor' without either knocking him out (incredibly dangerous) or getting him in a hold where I'd be stuck hanging onto him until police / drunk idiots intervened and made a crap situation much worse.
GC8 said:
I know someone who found himself in this situation recently. Currently looking at a manslaughter charge. It isn't like it looks on the telly.
Jesus, I can't even imagine to think what that would be like. How did it happen?
Reminds me of a club in Brighton called the Ocean Rooms. New years day a few years back, a guy got punched and hit his head on the way down. Died a few days later. From what I heard it was a daft argument, a lucky punch and an unlucky fall.
Rumor was the bouncers tried to cover it up by dragging him outside the club, hence it being closed down.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8445315.Killer_of_B...
Anyway, I got an impressively grovelling text from him yesterday. Told him he hit like a girl and to apologize to our boss and the barman hit too. 'What, I don't remember punching a barman too!?'. Think he's suitably shamed.
My manager and I agreed it's best forgotten though will be talking to him at work about his conduct to ensure he behaves in future.
cayman-black said:
fk me can't wait for tomorrow.
I'm not looking forward to the awkwardness but it's nothing compared to how my lunatic colleague is feeling I imagine k me can't wait for tomorrow.
Edited by CountZero23 on Sunday 11th September 23:00
Unfortunately in a lot of 'white collar' jobs there can be a drinking culture, and not joining in is seen as detrimental.
I always used to go on nights out, but since we've had kids, I made the decision to avoid these 'get-togethers'! Xmas parties would end up with punch ups (not me) and I'd rather avoid that sort of thing.
This has meant being turned down for a promotion as 'I don't socialise with the team', being sent drunken abusive emails from colleagues on nights out and that sort of carp.
I always used to go on nights out, but since we've had kids, I made the decision to avoid these 'get-togethers'! Xmas parties would end up with punch ups (not me) and I'd rather avoid that sort of thing.
This has meant being turned down for a promotion as 'I don't socialise with the team', being sent drunken abusive emails from colleagues on nights out and that sort of carp.
I will go out with my department, there is only 4 of us and we all get on extremely well, it never ends up messy, it's just like a group of friends going out for a meal and a drink, we do this about 4 times a year.
The work Christmas do's though I generally avoid, I'm not great in big groups and I hate that all through the year everyone is slagging off the MD and then that one night he's suddenly fantastic, I hate all that arse licking, I also hate it that you are "expected" to go, I should go because I want to, not because it is expected, it is frowned up that I don't go but I don't care.
The work Christmas do's though I generally avoid, I'm not great in big groups and I hate that all through the year everyone is slagging off the MD and then that one night he's suddenly fantastic, I hate all that arse licking, I also hate it that you are "expected" to go, I should go because I want to, not because it is expected, it is frowned up that I don't go but I don't care.
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