Monumental work cockups
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Anyone that knows anything about technical drawing will know that all drawings are produced in third angle projection.
So a drawing was made, ten sample parts made in the in house prototype room and all was well.
A thousand were made by an outside supplier, goods in checked them and found that they were to drawing, however when they came to be assembled with the other parts they were back to front. The internal prototypes were made assuming third angle projection, despite the drawing being (mistakenly) marked for first angle.
The supplier then made 1000 off in third angle, their QA had them scrapped on inspection and another 1000 made to first angle.
Oops. Fortunately it was nothing to do with me.
So a drawing was made, ten sample parts made in the in house prototype room and all was well.
A thousand were made by an outside supplier, goods in checked them and found that they were to drawing, however when they came to be assembled with the other parts they were back to front. The internal prototypes were made assuming third angle projection, despite the drawing being (mistakenly) marked for first angle.
The supplier then made 1000 off in third angle, their QA had them scrapped on inspection and another 1000 made to first angle.
Oops. Fortunately it was nothing to do with me.
Little Pete said:
pits said:
I've not really had any monumental cock ups, I once painted something and it look beautiful told the customer it would be set in a few hours and by all accounts it would have been set in a few hours, if I put the hardener in...that was fun to remove.
My mate has had a few that spring to mind, bought a 3 phase welder plugged it in and decided to see what it could do, his workshop was last on the run of the power supply in a load of workshops...his C/U spat it's dummy out which in turn blew every other consumer unit and the main 3 phase supply into the building, naturally denied all knowledge and just said he was welding away happily for the last hour and something went bang, bulls
tted the guy who owned the big company who owned the building that his end blew first, and must have killed "my" workshop. Cost the owner a bit of wedge to fix, power company out to fix it and loads of downtime on a huge contract.
Same place where someone knocked an oxygen bottle on the floor off a big drop, landed and took the head clean off it which propelled it through the yard, through the fence, across the road, through another fence, through a building wall before embedding itself in a concrete wall at the back of the other building, how that didn't hit anyone I do not know.
Truck driver who hooked up his trailer with a full load, put air lines on, put the jack up, drove off and hadn't actually hooked the trailer up at all, ripped all the lines out of the truck and dropped the trailer on the floor, took 4 forklifts and many people stood on forklifts to lift it back.
My favourite though, this was actually my mate. Had to build a trailer, extremely oversized trailer so he built it over 2 weeks or so, I popped up as he was close to finishing it and take it off to be galvanised, they were on a very tight schedule to get this done and it had to go in the morning for galv, so I helped him finish it up and then sat on the trailer and did the rough calculation in my head, looked at it again by eye and raised a pertinent question
"mush"
"Yes"
"How wide is this trailer?"
"4.8 metres"
"that's pretty wide, I'd say that is probably about half a metre too wide to fit out the door"
"nah it should fi.....oh fk yeah"
Door was 4.1 metres wide
"how are we going to get his out of here?"
"um......"
"could we put it on it's side, put the roller shutter up and take it out that way?"
"Yeah, we may have to, I can't cut a metre out of this and weld it back on"
"how high is the door?"
Door height 4.4 metres
had to pull the door off it's runners and remove a bit of it to get it out
Why not just tilt the trailer on an angle?My mate has had a few that spring to mind, bought a 3 phase welder plugged it in and decided to see what it could do, his workshop was last on the run of the power supply in a load of workshops...his C/U spat it's dummy out which in turn blew every other consumer unit and the main 3 phase supply into the building, naturally denied all knowledge and just said he was welding away happily for the last hour and something went bang, bulls
tted the guy who owned the big company who owned the building that his end blew first, and must have killed "my" workshop. Cost the owner a bit of wedge to fix, power company out to fix it and loads of downtime on a huge contract.Same place where someone knocked an oxygen bottle on the floor off a big drop, landed and took the head clean off it which propelled it through the yard, through the fence, across the road, through another fence, through a building wall before embedding itself in a concrete wall at the back of the other building, how that didn't hit anyone I do not know.
Truck driver who hooked up his trailer with a full load, put air lines on, put the jack up, drove off and hadn't actually hooked the trailer up at all, ripped all the lines out of the truck and dropped the trailer on the floor, took 4 forklifts and many people stood on forklifts to lift it back.
My favourite though, this was actually my mate. Had to build a trailer, extremely oversized trailer so he built it over 2 weeks or so, I popped up as he was close to finishing it and take it off to be galvanised, they were on a very tight schedule to get this done and it had to go in the morning for galv, so I helped him finish it up and then sat on the trailer and did the rough calculation in my head, looked at it again by eye and raised a pertinent question
"mush"
"Yes"
"How wide is this trailer?"
"4.8 metres"
"that's pretty wide, I'd say that is probably about half a metre too wide to fit out the door"
"nah it should fi.....oh f
k yeah"Door was 4.1 metres wide
"how are we going to get his out of here?"
"um......"
"could we put it on it's side, put the roller shutter up and take it out that way?"
"Yeah, we may have to, I can't cut a metre out of this and weld it back on"
"how high is the door?"
Door height 4.4 metres
had to pull the door off it's runners and remove a bit of it to get it out
hidetheelephants said:
amancalledrob said:
Tonsko said:
Explain to a stupid person please?
It's no more than it appears to be: he actually believed carting around a one tonne piece of limestone with a few condescending promises carved in it would make everyone think he was some sort of heroI'm actually disappointed it didn't get dropped on anyone. I wouldn't have wanted anyone seriously hurt but if that had been dropped on someone's car, for example, I bet we'd have been treated to some first-class comedy/headlines (and comedy headlines, I guess) for weeks on end
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/25/l...
Jesus, it's more Thick of it than thick of it. You can see the thought process. Someone used the regrettable idiom 'set in stone'. Another bright spark then would have said, 'Hey! Why don't we actually set it in stone? That will be brilliant!' Much back slapping for a great idea and more huge great snorts of rarified air.
Told to me by a former rep from the firm in question, and provided he physical evidence when I scoffed at it, so I can vouch for it's authenticity.
A few years ago there was a printers called Norwich Colour Print Ltd. They decided to have a bit of a rebrand and the chosen design ranged the company name hard right (as opposed to centred text or ranged left as is normally written.)
Top line had the word Norwich; second line Colour, then Print and finally Ltd.
Van graphics were made up, business cards printed - the lot. It was only when a delivery driver pulled into the yard and pointed out the expletive now written in foot high letters on their trucks that anyone noticed.
The C in Norwich lined up perfectly with the U in Colour which then lined up with the N in Print and lastly, the T in Ltd fell into place.
A hasty redesign was put in place.
A few years ago there was a printers called Norwich Colour Print Ltd. They decided to have a bit of a rebrand and the chosen design ranged the company name hard right (as opposed to centred text or ranged left as is normally written.)
Top line had the word Norwich; second line Colour, then Print and finally Ltd.
Van graphics were made up, business cards printed - the lot. It was only when a delivery driver pulled into the yard and pointed out the expletive now written in foot high letters on their trucks that anyone noticed.
The C in Norwich lined up perfectly with the U in Colour which then lined up with the N in Print and lastly, the T in Ltd fell into place.
A hasty redesign was put in place.
DrSteveBrule said:
Told to me by a former rep from the firm in question, and provided he physical evidence when I scoffed at it, so I can vouch for it's authenticity.
A few years ago there was a printers called Norwich Colour Print Ltd. They decided to have a bit of a rebrand and the chosen design ranged the company name hard right (as opposed to centred text or ranged left as is normally written.)
Top line had the word Norwich; second line Colour, then Print and finally Ltd.
Van graphics were made up, business cards printed - the lot. It was only when a delivery driver pulled into the yard and pointed out the expletive now written in foot high letters on their trucks that anyone noticed.
The C in Norwich lined up perfectly with the U in Colour which then lined up with the N in Print and lastly, the T in Ltd fell into place.
A hasty redesign was put in place.
So that's where Top Gear got their inspiration A few years ago there was a printers called Norwich Colour Print Ltd. They decided to have a bit of a rebrand and the chosen design ranged the company name hard right (as opposed to centred text or ranged left as is normally written.)
Top line had the word Norwich; second line Colour, then Print and finally Ltd.
Van graphics were made up, business cards printed - the lot. It was only when a delivery driver pulled into the yard and pointed out the expletive now written in foot high letters on their trucks that anyone noticed.
The C in Norwich lined up perfectly with the U in Colour which then lined up with the N in Print and lastly, the T in Ltd fell into place.
A hasty redesign was put in place.
DrSteveBrule said:
Told to me by a former rep from the firm in question, and provided he physical evidence when I scoffed at it, so I can vouch for it's authenticity.
A few years ago there was a printers called Norwich Colour Print Ltd. They decided to have a bit of a rebrand and the chosen design ranged the company name hard right (as opposed to centred text or ranged left as is normally written.)
Top line had the word Norwich; second line Colour, then Print and finally Ltd.
Van graphics were made up, business cards printed - the lot. It was only when a delivery driver pulled into the yard and pointed out the expletive now written in foot high letters on their trucks that anyone noticed.
The C in Norwich lined up perfectly with the U in Colour which then lined up with the N in Print and lastly, the T in Ltd fell into place.
A hasty redesign was put in place.
Haha! Reminds me of this:A few years ago there was a printers called Norwich Colour Print Ltd. They decided to have a bit of a rebrand and the chosen design ranged the company name hard right (as opposed to centred text or ranged left as is normally written.)
Top line had the word Norwich; second line Colour, then Print and finally Ltd.
Van graphics were made up, business cards printed - the lot. It was only when a delivery driver pulled into the yard and pointed out the expletive now written in foot high letters on their trucks that anyone noticed.
The C in Norwich lined up perfectly with the U in Colour which then lined up with the N in Print and lastly, the T in Ltd fell into place.
A hasty redesign was put in place.
Used to work for Vodafone. Someone in the purchasing team secured the UK exclusive for the iPhone when it first came out, but were told by the powers that be that it was too expensive and they needed to renegotiate. When the exclusive with O2 ended, the premium paid ti apple to get the handset exceeded what they would have paid in the original deal, although now every other network also had it!
Many reckon it was the catalyst in transforming Vodafone from the UK number one network to what it is now.
That worked out well...
Many reckon it was the catalyst in transforming Vodafone from the UK number one network to what it is now.
That worked out well...
spikeyhead said:
Anyone that knows anything about technical drawing will know that all drawings are produced in third angle projection.
So a drawing was made, ten sample parts made in the in house prototype room and all was well.
A thousand were made by an outside supplier, goods in checked them and found that they were to drawing, however when they came to be assembled with the other parts they were back to front. The internal prototypes were made assuming third angle projection, despite the drawing being (mistakenly) marked for first angle.
The supplier then made 1000 off in third angle, their QA had them scrapped on inspection and another 1000 made to first angle.
Oops. Fortunately it was nothing to do with me.
Eh? I'd agree that companies should stick with one or the other, but they're both valid. All third angle drawings are marked accordingly and first angle likewise; the symbols are quite clear and distinct. BS308(or whatever it is today; BS8888 I think?) is elegantly simple and drawings produced to it should be unambiguous, if they aren't fire your draftsman(or in this instance whoever checked the drawing and signed it off).So a drawing was made, ten sample parts made in the in house prototype room and all was well.
A thousand were made by an outside supplier, goods in checked them and found that they were to drawing, however when they came to be assembled with the other parts they were back to front. The internal prototypes were made assuming third angle projection, despite the drawing being (mistakenly) marked for first angle.
The supplier then made 1000 off in third angle, their QA had them scrapped on inspection and another 1000 made to first angle.
Oops. Fortunately it was nothing to do with me.
hidetheelephants said:
spikeyhead said:
Anyone that knows anything about technical drawing will know that all drawings are produced in third angle projection.
So a drawing was made, ten sample parts made in the in house prototype room and all was well.
A thousand were made by an outside supplier, goods in checked them and found that they were to drawing, however when they came to be assembled with the other parts they were back to front. The internal prototypes were made assuming third angle projection, despite the drawing being (mistakenly) marked for first angle.
The supplier then made 1000 off in third angle, their QA had them scrapped on inspection and another 1000 made to first angle.
Oops. Fortunately it was nothing to do with me.
Eh? I'd agree that companies should stick with one or the other, but they're both valid. All third angle drawings are marked accordingly and first angle likewise; the symbols are quite clear and distinct. BS308(or whatever it is today; BS8888 I think?) is elegantly simple and drawings produced to it should be unambiguous, if they aren't fire your draftsman(or in this instance whoever checked the drawing and signed it off).So a drawing was made, ten sample parts made in the in house prototype room and all was well.
A thousand were made by an outside supplier, goods in checked them and found that they were to drawing, however when they came to be assembled with the other parts they were back to front. The internal prototypes were made assuming third angle projection, despite the drawing being (mistakenly) marked for first angle.
The supplier then made 1000 off in third angle, their QA had them scrapped on inspection and another 1000 made to first angle.
Oops. Fortunately it was nothing to do with me.
Ilovejapcrap said:
Someone told me mr dyson went to hoover with his idea and they said go away.
If true that's someone must have got the chop
I was told he'd also approached the Danish-owned vacuum company I used to work for in the mid 90s. Before I joined them, but they too thought he wasn't onto a winner.If true that's someone must have got the chop
DrSteveBrule said:
I was told he'd also approached the Danish-owned vacuum company I used to work for in the mid 90s. Before I joined them, but they too thought he wasn't onto a winner.
he approached zanussi and they made his first vacuum, ( the cyclon 1000) in 1984 ( it was also made under licence in japan where it was called the g-force . I bet someone there is kicking themselves that they didnt retain the rights to bagless cyclonic vacuums.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff