Living it up in the Third World.
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Shnozz said:
Fookin hell Andy. I wasn't expecting you to say that!
Company pays for housing. Just went out for dinner tonight with a few of the lads. A few prawns and a plate of meat was £300 at bank rates or £100 at street ratesETA: that's a cheap backstreet joint. Could easily hit £1000 at a decent restaurant out here (bank rates)
Edited by jock mcsporran on Tuesday 25th October 23:11
jdw100 said:
Well I had planned to retire (at 48) but have actually picked up assignments back in Europe, that I can operate remotely from here. I'm in a fortunate position in that I can make a fair bit of cash with minimal effort.
Just billed £xxk this month; probably do an hour or two a day max. No longer having fancy offices to support, admin people, PA etc means it's pretty much all profit.
Working here would be a massive pain in the arse though. I would never buy or set up a business here. Others have mentioned 'cultural stuff' in posts above. I know that I would not be able to deal with having locals working for me.
Living here though is absolutely fantastic really. I have friends arriving on Thursday from uk - we'll be going snorkelling, white water rafting, monkey forest, beaches and clubbing!
We live in a mixed area - so Bulle (like me) and locals. Drive a 1.2l Suzuki splash and a Honda scoopy moped - its pistonheads so thought that would be important info.
What industry if you dont mind revealing. Just billed £xxk this month; probably do an hour or two a day max. No longer having fancy offices to support, admin people, PA etc means it's pretty much all profit.
Working here would be a massive pain in the arse though. I would never buy or set up a business here. Others have mentioned 'cultural stuff' in posts above. I know that I would not be able to deal with having locals working for me.
Living here though is absolutely fantastic really. I have friends arriving on Thursday from uk - we'll be going snorkelling, white water rafting, monkey forest, beaches and clubbing!
We live in a mixed area - so Bulle (like me) and locals. Drive a 1.2l Suzuki splash and a Honda scoopy moped - its pistonheads so thought that would be important info.
If you are interested how much money you'll need you live in the third world, there's some good information here:
98elise said:
What are the visa restrictions for doing something like that?
I'm retiring in 4 years and want to spend the winter months in various hot countries, and possibly even settle somewhere for maybe a decade.
A guy I met, who has lived in Indo for 20 years, told me that there are about 700,000 foreigners living in the country. The overall population is 250m. However the immigration ministry employs over 2m people, so that's just over 2 people looking after every foreigner. I can well believe that!I'm retiring in 4 years and want to spend the winter months in various hot countries, and possibly even settle somewhere for maybe a decade.
You would initially have to leave the country on a regular basis, most people do a run to Singapore or similar. The airport here in Bali (revamped 2 years ago and looking good!) is incredibly well connected. Lots of flights daily to Singers, Honkers, KL, Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh, China etc etc etc.....
Over time you can get better visas or a working visa. However immigration is tightly controlled, go over your visa for a few weeks and you'll get fined. Do a proper overstay and it's fine, prison and then deportation - you will never be alllowed back in. Stick to the rules and you are fine, break the rules and they will come after you and arrest you!
I'm on a family visa as my wife is Indonesian so I have a permit to stay - also get a nice plastic card that gets me through immigration at the airport quicker.
And before anyone makes any assumptions about us....she was an Operations Manager for a boutique hotel here when I met her. It's her villa (2 double bed rooms, pool etc) that we live in, which she had bought and paid for.....and no I'm not some fat guy that couldn't find a wife back in Europe!
jdw100 said:
And before anyone makes any assumptions about us....she was an Operations Manager for a boutique hotel here when I met her. It's her villa (2 double bed rooms, pool etc) that we live in, which she had bought and paid for.....and no I'm not some fat guy that couldn't find a wife back in Europe!
It's funny, I suppose it's human nature to make up an image in your mind, filling in details with little more than your own imagination to go off. As I read this post, I had no image of his wife as saying she's Indonesian could mean anything but I certainly didn't picture JD as a fat bloke who couldn't get a European woman. More like Sean Connery in his Bond days.
jock mcsporran said:
Shnozz said:
Fookin hell Andy. I wasn't expecting you to say that!
Company pays for housing. Just went out for dinner tonight with a few of the lads. A few prawns and a plate of meat was £300 at bank rates or £100 at street ratesETA: that's a cheap backstreet joint. Could easily hit £1000 at a decent restaurant out here (bank rates)
Edited by jock mcsporran on Tuesday 25th October 23:11
What's the US$ > KWZ street rate now then?
Ganglandboss said:
If you are interested how much money you'll need you live in the third world, there's some good information here:
I was going to suggest Bradford but this is much better.
jdw100 said:
However immigration is tightly controlled, go over your visa for a few weeks and you'll get fined. Do a proper overstay and it's fine, prison and then deportation - you will never be alllowed back in. Stick to the rules and you are fine, break the rules and they will come after you and arrest you!
Perhaps if we did a bit more of that here immigration wouldn't be such an emotive topic.Shoegrip said:
It's funny, I suppose it's human nature to make up an image in your mind, filling in details with little more than your own imagination to go off.
As I read this post, I had no image of his wife as saying she's Indonesian could mean anything but I certainly didn't picture JD as a fat bloke who couldn't get a European woman. More like Sean Connery in his Bond days.
Having spent the last 2 weeks in se Asia, I can confirm that a vast number of those with thai brides are indeed fat and ginger and probably wouldn't get a bride in the UK... As I read this post, I had no image of his wife as saying she's Indonesian could mean anything but I certainly didn't picture JD as a fat bloke who couldn't get a European woman. More like Sean Connery in his Bond days.
Condi said:
Shoegrip said:
It's funny, I suppose it's human nature to make up an image in your mind, filling in details with little more than your own imagination to go off.
As I read this post, I had no image of his wife as saying she's Indonesian could mean anything but I certainly didn't picture JD as a fat bloke who couldn't get a European woman. More like Sean Connery in his Bond days.
Having spent the last 2 weeks in se Asia, I can confirm that a vast number of those with thai brides are indeed fat and ginger and probably wouldn't get a bride in the UK... As I read this post, I had no image of his wife as saying she's Indonesian could mean anything but I certainly didn't picture JD as a fat bloke who couldn't get a European woman. More like Sean Connery in his Bond days.
That's not me, or anyone in our social circle here.
That said a lot of my wife's friends do have western husbands or partners.
All of these ladies are well educated and some own businesses etc. They just don't go for the local guys because many of the local lads are ineffectual, old fashioned in their approach to women, happy with 'small jobs' for low pay, will avoid extra work/training/promotion etc. Plus they are usually quite scrawny in comparison to the westerners, which seems to be a real turn off.
jdw100 said:
Well I had planned to retire (at 48) but have actually picked up assignments back in Europe, that I can operate remotely from here. I'm in a fortunate position in that I can make a fair bit of cash with minimal effort.
.....*snip*
Living here though is absolutely fantastic really. I have friends arriving on Thursday from uk - we'll be going snorkelling, white water rafting, monkey forest, beaches and clubbing!
.....*snip*
All good to know......*snip*
Living here though is absolutely fantastic really. I have friends arriving on Thursday from uk - we'll be going snorkelling, white water rafting, monkey forest, beaches and clubbing!
.....*snip*
On the basis of another post yesterday, I started looking at Belize real estate.
I should do some f
king work to ensure I can pay for whatever I plan to do in the future! Currently I can retire at 56 on full Lux pension, although I suspect it'll become @ age 60 when I turn 55 + 11 months (!!)
Having lived out of the UK for almost 19 years, I can't see me going back, so somewhere more "exotic", whilst perhaps a little on the romantic view, seems appealing...Like you, I could still do some consulting work on a remote basis, if nly to keep my grey matter going. I met a mate last week in Tampa, he usually lives in HK. He retired about 10 years ago at 54. He drinks beer and smokes Marlboro all day. Really no food to speak of. He's all of 110lb now. I don't want to be like that.
jock mcsporran said:
Don't come to Angola. You can easily rack up a £100 bill for a couple of sandwiches and cokes at lunchtime. Not to mention then 2 bed apartments for 6 or 7k USD per month rent.
Still, it's bearable if you can change money at street rates and apartment rents have dropped from the 20kUSD/month before the oil price crash.
South Sudan is 7000ssp to $100 and the banks won't let you withdrawal anymore than 50,000ssp. Street rates are getting bonkersStill, it's bearable if you can change money at street rates and apartment rents have dropped from the 20kUSD/month before the oil price crash.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
I have several colleagues that live and commute in from Macedonia.
Living costs are about 1/4 of W Europe. They live like kings!
If I were such a 'king', I would always be concerned that the peasants might start having anti-monarchy thoughts. Living costs are about 1/4 of W Europe. They live like kings!
Being noticeably wealthy in far-flung places is tempting envy-driven attention?
V8mate said:
If I were such a 'king', I would always be concerned that the peasants might start having anti-monarchy thoughts.
Being noticeably wealthy in far-flung places is tempting envy-driven attention?
I think the same can be said over here as well, judging by some of the posts on Facebook/NP&E Being noticeably wealthy in far-flung places is tempting envy-driven attention?
Ganglandboss said:
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Ganglandboss said:
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