Thai wives etc. Naïve and deluded?

Thai wives etc. Naïve and deluded?

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hora

37,126 posts

211 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Joey Deacon said:
My uncle was in his 60s and ended up marrying a Thai Girl. He would work in the UK for a few months in some manual job while sleeping on his sons sofa before heading back out to Thailand for a few months until the money ran out. Of course they built a bungalow out there but it had to be in his wife's name as foreigners cannot own property over there.

He ended up sleeping with his wife's sister, we wonder if she came up with the plan to give her an excuse to divorce him.
Sounds like a sleeze gotten rid of.

Gibbo998

307 posts

112 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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I have now lived permanantly in Thailand for five years, since I retired early from the UK. I bought a house in my name, but have a rental agreement for 90 years on my land, so you can have ownership of a sort, without having to resort to registering in a Thai partners name.
I have a very comfortable life here, as the living costs are minimal compared to the UK, and the weather is in the 30 degree range most days.
I have had a couple of experiences with much younger Thai girls, relationships that have lasted for two years, but each one has finished with emotional turmiol for me.
Firstly, the reason a younger Thai girl wants to be with an older 'farang' is the security they provide, as it isa traditional expectation that the girl is expected to provide for the family, via her 'farang' partner. I sent 10, 000 bht, about £200, each month to my Thai wifes family. In return I had an attractive loving younger partner who looked after me and made me a very happy bunny for the time we were together. I am 66 and she is 33.
Also, most Thai girls have a Thai 'husband' at an early age, who get them pregnant, then have numerous affairs with other Thai girls, leaving the wife at home to look after the baby.
This is a generalisation I know, but is a regular story you here from many Thai girls experience, so an older 'farang' partner is a stablising choice.
But, there is such a big cultural difference between the Thai way of thinking and how the 'farang' see life.
My wife wanted to go back to see the family each month, which was OK at the beginning, but caused problems for us as these trips increased and became longer.
We married after being together for two years, and then she announced that she needed to go into the Temple for three months to be a lady monk and give merit to Buddha.
This was the final straw and I had three months of heartache and pain. I could not contact her other than th occaisional text, but no physical or verbal contact.
When she came back from the Temple, things were never the same and I had it in my head all the time, that she had left me so soon after we married and made my life very unhappy.
Many Thais I spoke to about this said it was quite normal for a Thai to do three month meditation in the Temple.
But many of my farang friends said she probably has a Thai husband and is off with him for three months!
Needless to say we split up six months later, after she had milked me for money to pay for land for the family to build a house.
In hindsght, I should never have waited the three months and should have told her to come home sooner, or our marriage would suffer. But, her beliefs are so strong about her religion, that I know the choice she would have made.
I am now more cautious in my relationships with Thai girls, but still they are wonderful partners, and make your life wonderful whilstit is all going well and you are providing.
But, as long as you keep in mind the reason they are with you, it is a good deal for both parties.
I love my life here, as it is such a contrast to how my life would bein the UK, and it suits me so well.
Just have make sure I keep a level head with relationships in the future!

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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I have 3 friends with Thai partners, they're all ex prostitutes and seemingly only in the relationships for financial gain.
They're, give or take, half the age of my friends, relatively pretty but not exactly charismatic or generous.

One is now in charge of my friends business finances, another is paid £350 per week to be over here and the final one is an ex methamphetamine dealer who appears to have not quite shaken her habit.

My friends are, in the main, astute, reasonable looking and relatively successful but somehow completely blind to what they're doing in regard to these relationships, two of them have almost no intimate contact, the other one does but they constantly bicker and live in a dysfunctional manner, to the extent that every month or so he sends her back to Thailand only to become lonely again and fly her back over.....

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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hora said:
Joey Deacon said:
My uncle was in his 60s and ended up marrying a Thai Girl. He would work in the UK for a few months in some manual job while sleeping on his sons sofa before heading back out to Thailand for a few months until the money ran out. Of course they built a bungalow out there but it had to be in his wife's name as foreigners cannot own property over there.

He ended up sleeping with his wife's sister, we wonder if she came up with the plan to give her an excuse to divorce him.
Sounds like a sleeze gotten rid of.
Agreed, I have probably seen him once in the last 15 years, this is all information passed onto me via my parents. He was married to my dad's sister, he is not a blood relative thank god.

HD Adam

5,149 posts

184 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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I lived & worked in Thailand for about 2 years and have a couple of friends from there who remain happily married to a local woman.
I seems to be working out for them although to me, the reality is their wives see the financial stability as the biggest draw.

No different to this, is it? "So, what first attracted you to multi-millionare Flavio Briatore?"



Conversely, I have a much larger proportion of friends from there who got absolutely cleaned out by local women and couldn't see it happening.
You'd get the old "Oh no, she's not a prostitute (even though they met in a bar) and I don't pay her for sex. I just rent a flat for her, rent a car, buy her shoes, pay the phone contract, send money up country for her old granny who needs an operation and I'm paying for a new water well in her village" rolleyes

You would tell them that the old adage of "If it flies, floats or fks, you're better off renting it by the hour" but they got all loved up and wouldn't have it.

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Legacywr said:
TheInternet said:
All is explained in Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends - Thai Brides. (Contains ginger)
I had to stop watching that after 10 minutes, as that agency guy is sickening!
I'm watching this right now, I started off thinking agency guy was OK but he becomes just so creepy - the "turning the lights off in the office" bit vomit

Geekman said:
I'm a relatively morally bankrupt person, but even I couldn't be the agent to pair that ginger guy up with someone. Comes across as an absolute fking psycho.
Jesus - no way could I, either. Just watching that I was on edge waiting for him to blow up.

Edited by Dog Star on Friday 28th October 09:42

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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English is, as I understand it, reasonably widely taught, especially in cities - so there are fewer barriers in talking to UK and US men.

A second factor might be more about equality for those moving to the UK. Thailand is about 90th in the world on the gender inequality index. UK is about 14th. (not a perfect measure, but an indicator)

If I was an educated female in Thailand I might want some life options that include a "more equal" country to live in.

Register1

2,140 posts

94 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Gibbo998 said:
I have now lived permanantly in Thailand for five years, since I retired early from the UK. I bought a house in my name, but have a rental agreement for 90 years on my land, so you can have ownership of a sort, without having to resort to registering in a Thai partners name.
I have a very comfortable life here, as the living costs are minimal compared to the UK, and the weather is in the 30 degree range most days.
I have had a couple of experiences with much younger Thai girls, relationships that have lasted for two years, but each one has finished with emotional turmiol for me.
Firstly, the reason a younger Thai girl wants to be with an older 'farang' is the security they provide, as it isa traditional expectation that the girl is expected to provide for the family, via her 'farang' partner. I sent 10, 000 bht, about £200, each month to my Thai wifes family. In return I had an attractive loving younger partner who looked after me and made me a very happy bunny for the time we were together. I am 66 and she is 33.
Also, most Thai girls have a Thai 'husband' at an early age, who get them pregnant, then have numerous affairs with other Thai girls, leaving the wife at home to look after the baby.
This is a generalisation I know, but is a regular story you here from many Thai girls experience, so an older 'farang' partner is a stablising choice.
But, there is such a big cultural difference between the Thai way of thinking and how the 'farang' see life.
My wife wanted to go back to see the family each month, which was OK at the beginning, but caused problems for us as these trips increased and became longer.
We married after being together for two years, and then she announced that she needed to go into the Temple for three months to be a lady monk and give merit to Buddha.
This was the final straw and I had three months of heartache and pain. I could not contact her other than th occaisional text, but no physical or verbal contact.
When she came back from the Temple, things were never the same and I had it in my head all the time, that she had left me so soon after we married and made my life very unhappy.
Many Thais I spoke to about this said it was quite normal for a Thai to do three month meditation in the Temple.
But many of my farang friends said she probably has a Thai husband and is off with him for three months!
Needless to say we split up six months later, after she had milked me for money to pay for land for the family to build a house.
In hindsght, I should never have waited the three months and should have told her to come home sooner, or our marriage would suffer. But, her beliefs are so strong about her religion, that I know the choice she would have made.
I am now more cautious in my relationships with Thai girls, but still they are wonderful partners, and make your life wonderful whilstit is all going well and you are providing.
But, as long as you keep in mind the reason they are with you, it is a good deal for both parties.
I love my life here, as it is such a contrast to how my life would bein the UK, and it suits me so well.
Just have make sure I keep a level head with relationships in the future!
Good post.
Good insight

Oakey

27,566 posts

216 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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So my uncle's best mate was married to a Filipino woman and they lived in the Philippines together. One day he leaves the bank and gets in his car and two men on a motorcycle pull alongside him and shoot him dead.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/123779/news/r...

article said:
Meanwhile, Brown's wife Gloria reportedly assumed the position left vacant with the death of her husband.

She reported for work at the company office in Clark where she was introduced to the personnel as the “new president of the company."

Gloria's 22-year old daughter from another man was also given the second top position in the company, sources from Outback revealed.

Outback Five Star Clark-Philippines Incorporated has an asset or total net worth of $5 million.
http://northphiltimes.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/more-news-pampanga_12.html

article said:
Charges of murder were filed against Gloria Fuentes-Brown and her alleged cohort Alvin Salas, also a Filipino.

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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HustleRussell said:
Depressingly I came away thinking that the single biggest drawback of having a relationship with a Thai girl is the social stigma.
I think the most depressing thing about that statement is that people care so much about what others think of them...

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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BlackLabel said:
TheInternet said:
All is explained in Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends - Thai Brides. (Contains ginger)
The Louis Theroux Thai bride episode never gets old. laugh

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gz-TUzjSXOw
Ironically unlike Thai brides who seem to age terribly ! It is a fantastic bit of TV though.

One of my friends- now in his early 30's- has been with his hong kong born gf since they were at school together. he's had every comment going- thai bride related.

the only thing being is he is (I'm told by the girls at work) extremely good looking, fit, toned etc- i.e for example all the ladies at work really do take a shine to him etc.

so there's no way he would ever have been some desperate weirdo to need to travel 10,000 miles for some action.

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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All that jazz said:
I remember reading an old thread on here years ago from some old guy working offshore in the oil fields in Asia who'd married a young Filipino girl and bought a big house for her in the Philippines somewhere and then had her mother move in with them yikes. Dunno if he still posts on here (can't remember the username) but he isn't going to be short of a few quid in that line of work and that kind of money would go a very long way in the Philippines. His young wife and family just biding their time? scratchchin I guess when you're balls deep in some hot, young pretty thing you don't worry about things like that eek.
fk sake.

Seriously, what makes you think you can talk like that about another man's family?

Would you say any of that to the PH'er's face? Of course you bloody wouldn't.







Edited by TheJimi on Friday 28th October 09:39

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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robm3 said:
So if you're down on your luck in the UK, it seems Vietnam, Thailand and Philippines is a sure thing.
I remember this effect, in South Manchester my friends and me weren't handsome, cultured or rich enough for guaranteed scores each time we went out, made a few trips to the north east and fk me, we were players biggrin

I think they thought we were a bit "posh", we had shirts with actual sleeves, hair longer than 4 mm, we avoided fighting, we used cutlery and didnt get utterly and completely hammered.







Jakarta

566 posts

142 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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I've lived in Jakarta for 9 years now, after a year or so of the single life I met my now wife, after 6 years together we married, now at 8 years together.
I'm 40, she is 30. Yes she is very attractive, she couldn't cook when I met her, and no she does not tidy the house or pander to my every whim (we have staff to clean the home). She is very strong-willed and would soon kick me up the arse if I acted like the entitled tt most people seem to think 'my sort' are.
She does have a penchant for Louis Vuitton, Prada, Gucci, Valentino and Cartier to name a few, but I'm fortunate that I can currently afford these luxuries.
After about 2-3 years together during a steep decline in the oil business times were hard, not eating rice from a grotty street vendor hard, but not particularly comfortable. We got through this period together and are probably much stronger for it.
I don't directly contribute to the family back in the village, but from the allowance I give her to run the household, she has invested some of it wisely and the family is now self sufficient under her guidance and business acumen.
She rents a few hectares of rice fields back home and they are paid from their work associated with that. She creams the profit off the top.

Generally in my social circles here, most of the expats are well-off. Poor, ill educated chav's from the UK would not last more than their 30 day visa on arrival here. It is very difficult to get work here, and you find that most people here for any longer than a month are here on a work sponsored visa, or work out of the country whilst residing in Indonesia.
There have been some horror stories down the pub, if it gets as far as marriage and breaks up it is usually because the ex-pat husband has neglected work, became a drunken sot and a useless husband. She tells him to sod off, gains very little from the divorce as he's spent all his money and has excessive outstanding bar bills. If she's lucky, the now ex-wife will find a new ex-pat partner, I have never heard of a local ex-wife ending up with an Indonesian partner.
Only on one or two occasions I've heard of the women completely taking the piss, demands for this and that. I know of one who used to charge her husband for every bonk. She was also heading into town to the all-weekend raves, not coming home for a few days, he was a doormat who should have known better. He also was not particularly wealthy and their age difference was about 10 years.

Sadly, the worst experience I've had whilst with my wife was in the UK. Strolling through Plymouth visiting old haunts during the evening, some grotty fat, drunk bint shouted across the street asking how much I paid to bring her back from Thailand. Her equally drunk (but very skinny) chap told her that she can't speak like that to people. Well done to him. We walked on by with a little chuckle.

Zero naivety on my behalf, we have a wonderful relationship and I'm much happier than I ever was with any previous English girlfriends.

hora

37,126 posts

211 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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I remember a few girls at my old work asking why I didn't like white women. (The same women who liked their men untravelled and uncultured Manchester born and bred).

I was polite but I wanted to say I'm not into women with feet as big as mine and who look like transexuals in dresses.

Harsh but tbh, for the main up north true.

Crook

6,758 posts

224 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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This was a thread that came up on Reddit quite recently. There are some interesting and positive experiences.
Redditors who married a mail order bride, what is your experience?

DuncanM

6,182 posts

279 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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hora said:
I remember a few girls at my old work asking why I didn't like white women. (The same women who liked their men untravelled and uncultured Manchester born and bred).

I was polite but I wanted to say I'm not into women with feet as big as mine and who look like transexuals in dresses.

Harsh but tbh, for the main up north true.
So you're allowed to make sweeping generalisations about English white women then are you?

I'm glad people are happy with their choices, no matter what they are, but anyone calling this thread racist should really look the word up.

What a joke.




glazbagun

14,279 posts

197 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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hora said:
I remember a few girls at my old work asking why I didn't like white women. (The same women who liked their men untravelled and uncultured Manchester born and bred).

I was polite but I wanted to say I'm not into women with feet as big as mine and who look like transexuals in dresses.

Harsh but tbh, for the main up north true.
I remember a Chinese mate of mine telling me (context was at our uni, with loads of mainland Chinese walking around) that western guys had an advantage as they were generally taller, stronger, etc, and they liked Asian girls as they were so petite and pretty.

I felt he was projecting a bit so pointed out all the types of girl Birmingham had to offer. He thought they were all fat!laugh

Also had a 6' tall blonde pal who lived in Japan for a while and basically said it was really hard getting dates as the Japanese apparently diddnt find her that attractive. No accounting for taste, I guess!

DuncanM

6,182 posts

279 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Jakarta said:
I've lived in Jakarta for 9 years now, after a year or so of the single life I met my now wife, after 6 years together we married, now at 8 years together.
I'm 40, she is 30. Yes she is very attractive, she couldn't cook when I met her, and no she does not tidy the house or pander to my every whim (we have staff to clean the home). She is very strong-willed and would soon kick me up the arse if I acted like the entitled tt most people seem to think 'my sort' are.
She does have a penchant for Louis Vuitton, Prada, Gucci, Valentino and Cartier to name a few, but I'm fortunate that I can currently afford these luxuries.
After about 2-3 years together during a steep decline in the oil business times were hard, not eating rice from a grotty street vendor hard, but not particularly comfortable. We got through this period together and are probably much stronger for it.
I don't directly contribute to the family back in the village, but from the allowance I give her to run the household, she has invested some of it wisely and the family is now self sufficient under her guidance and business acumen.
She rents a few hectares of rice fields back home and they are paid from their work associated with that. She creams the profit off the top.

Generally in my social circles here, most of the expats are well-off. Poor, ill educated chav's from the UK would not last more than their 30 day visa on arrival here. It is very difficult to get work here, and you find that most people here for any longer than a month are here on a work sponsored visa, or work out of the country whilst residing in Indonesia.
There have been some horror stories down the pub, if it gets as far as marriage and breaks up it is usually because the ex-pat husband has neglected work, became a drunken sot and a useless husband. She tells him to sod off, gains very little from the divorce as he's spent all his money and has excessive outstanding bar bills. If she's lucky, the now ex-wife will find a new ex-pat partner, I have never heard of a local ex-wife ending up with an Indonesian partner.
Only on one or two occasions I've heard of the women completely taking the piss, demands for this and that. I know of one who used to charge her husband for every bonk. She was also heading into town to the all-weekend raves, not coming home for a few days, he was a doormat who should have known better. He also was not particularly wealthy and their age difference was about 10 years.

Sadly, the worst experience I've had whilst with my wife was in the UK. Strolling through Plymouth visiting old haunts during the evening, some grotty fat, drunk bint shouted across the street asking how much I paid to bring her back from Thailand. Her equally drunk (but very skinny) chap told her that she can't speak like that to people. Well done to him. We walked on by with a little chuckle.

Zero naivety on my behalf, we have a wonderful relationship and I'm much happier than I ever was with any previous English girlfriends.
I'm genuinely happy for you Jakarta, but I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make?

Penchant for expensive things - check
Allowance to look after the house, and her family - check
Ten years younger, presumably very attractive - check

You're basically saying that, yes, that is what the situation is, and I am happy with it? If so, good for you smile

So we have some examples on here where it is more natural in terms of the relationship, and that's great yes?

However, when I sit next to a ~18 stone, 65+ year old man, with a beautiful 40 year old woman, him helping her buy fitness clothing to get back in shape for him (she is size 10, trying to get back to size 6-8), whilst he sits there looking unfit, unkempt, not giving a fk, and is being genuinely horrible to his wife and daughter? Then I will judge, and I will think how disgusting he is, and what a shame it is for her to have had to make that compromise in her life.

creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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All that jazz said:
I remember reading an old thread on here years ago from some old guy working offshore in the oil fields in Asia who'd married a young Filipino girl and bought a big house for her in the Philippines somewhere and then had her mother move in with them yikes. Dunno if he still posts on here (can't remember the username) but he isn't going to be short of a few quid in that line of work and that kind of money would go a very long way in the Philippines. His young wife and family just biding their time? scratchchin I guess when you're balls deep in some hot, young pretty thing you don't worry about things like that eek.
Another tt.

It is not your place to make such a judgement and you have no evidence for your suggestion. There are plenty of mixed ethnicity couples who you will see walking around the streets of the UK. Why not put this suggestion to some of them and post back on here with the results?