Mis -pronounced names

Mis -pronounced names

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Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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AdamIndy said:
Shakermaker said:
Shrewsbury?
mad

Fairly local to me so it gets said a lot. I pronounce it shrews-bury, quite a few people pronounce it Shrows-bury. Does my head in!
I've always been a "Shrows-bury" person, my Aunt lives there (although she isn't a native) and so we have always gone with Shrows rather than Shrews.

Will be there this weekend actually.

red_slr

17,270 posts

190 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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xRIEx said:
red_slr said:
E320 said:
Called Dacia Day-sher until I heard an ad pronounce it Datcha. I prefer my pronunciation.

More personally, no can pronounce my first name without a demo. Bloody foreign names...
I am far from an expert in French but I am fairly sure it should sound off with the S not the T.
What French? Dacia is Romanian.

Or are you talking about something else?
Oh right I thought it was French that might explain that then LOL

feef

5,206 posts

184 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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gizlaroc said:
Fastchas said:
Moonhawk said:
Moet et Chandon seems to get mispronounced a lot - mainly by people trying to sound posh/cultured.

It's pronounced Mo-et, not Mo-ey

Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 29th November 11:58
I've heard this is because it's Belgian, rather than French. Is that right?
Mo-et when attached to et Chandon.

Mo-ey when said on its own.



As 'et' is pronounced 'eh' saying 'mo-ey eh...' sounds a bit weird, far too many 'eh's' so it is pronounced Mo-et.


Crystal clear! biggrin
it's the ë that makes the 'ehh' sound, not because it's in that word in a particular way.

If it was Moet it would be 'mow-ay'
it's Moët so is 'moh-eht'

Doesn't matter that it's a name nor attached to Chandon

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Skyrat said:
It's Mow-ett regardless. It's of Dutch origin.
I was saying why the French pronounce it, not how it should be.

Let me ask you this, would you ask for 'A glass of Mo-ett?' at the bar?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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feef said:
it's the ë that makes the 'ehh' sound, not because it's in that word in a particular way.

If it was Moet it would be 'mow-ay'
it's Moët so is 'moh-eht'

Doesn't matter that it's a name nor attached to Chandon
Interesting. My cousin was explaining it to me, but he is Swiss French, so ca't speak any language properly. biggrin

thebraketester

14,249 posts

139 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Hugo a Gogo said:
they call the place, and the football team, 'Boro'
The do. But they wouldn't say middles-boro. FIL is from there.

Eric Mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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gizlaroc said:
I was saying why the French pronounce it, not how it should be.

Let me ask you this, would you ask for 'A glass of Mo-ett?' at the bar?
Absolutely not, mine's a Babycham...

Monkey boy 1

2,063 posts

232 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Morningside said:
Stiffkey
Happisburgh

Google maps does get Happisburgh correct.

Teac the audio company. I have always pronounced it Tee-ACK and others teak. Appears I was correct.
Don't forget those other Norfolk place names of Wymondham (Windum) or Costessey (Cossey)
Happisburgh (Haysborough)really confuses so many people.

Edited by Monkey boy 1 on Thursday 1st December 13:57

motco

15,967 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Monkey boy 1 said:
Don't forget those other Norfolk place names of Wymondham (Windum) or Costessey (Cossey)
Happisburgh (Haysborough)really confuses so many people.

Edited by Monkey boy 1 on Thursday 1st December 13:57
I think Norfolk confuses a lot of people! tongue out

Philplop

343 posts

175 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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motco said:
What about that bridge twixt Newcastle and Gateshead: 'Redheugh' or sommat?

Edited by motco on Thursday 1st December 09:42
Pronounced Red Yuff, I believe.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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yellowjack said:
To be frank, I reckon lots of mispronounced place names are simply down to lazy local feckers who can't be bothered to say it properly.


So many variations in the spelling of names, surnames especially, stems from cultural differences and language barriers. Pritchard, Parry, Penry - all are corruptions of Welsh names Ap Richard, Ap Harry, Ap Henry. 'Ap' is 'son of', so Richard Pritchard would be what an English census taker wrote down when a Welsh person, centuries ago, said Richard Ap Richard (Richard, son of Richard) in answer to the question "Vot iz your name?" Traditionally that's how many cultures have used names. Your given name followed by your father's given name.

Baker, Wright, Carpenter, Fisher, Cooper, are all similarly born out of the imperative to give a written surname on documents. They are simply the trade of the person who was asked to give their name. Not having a surname, when required to give one by a Norman conqueror for example, meant you got given one, and the solution was to use the person's trade.

Moet? I pronounce that wrong, but I blame Freddy Mercury for that. Similarly other things I pronounce wrong will be traced to hearing it pronounced wrong for years while growing up. As for towns like Towcester? Just fk off. If you want it pronounced Toaster, then spell it that way. Or just accept that folk who've never been will say it wrong, and quit faking offence. It's YOUR stupid fault that you are linguistically lazy and don't pronounce it properly in the first place.

Oh! For a language with rules. Like German, for instance. See a letter, say a letter, what could be simpler???
This is pretty much the reason for it all I suspect as well. Regional dialect and accents sounding unusual to outsiders and then becoming adopeted as "the norm" over several generations

GetCarter

29,404 posts

280 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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If we are talking mis-pronounced place names (which the O/P wasn't)...

I lived near Cockermouth. (No sniggering at the back).

Nobody calls Plymouth 'Ply-Mouth', and all the locals I met whilst living there for two years called it 'Cockermooth' (like Plymouth is pronounced).

Yet every single time I hear it mentioned on the box it's Cocker Mouth.

I think they just like a snigger.

motco

15,967 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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GetCarter said:
If we are talking mis-pronounced place names (which the O/P wasn't)...

I lived near Cockermouth. (No sniggering at the back).

Nobody calls Plymouth 'Ply-Mouth', and all the locals I met whilst living there for two years called it 'Cockermooth' (like Plymouth is pronounced).

Yet every single time I hear it mentioned on the box it's Cocker Mouth.

I think they just like a snigger.
With your Hampton Wick!

motco

15,967 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Philplop said:
motco said:
What about that bridge twixt Newcastle and Gateshead: 'Redheugh' or sommat?

Edited by motco on Thursday 1st December 09:42
Pronounced Red Yuff, I believe.
Thanks! I don't like upsetting the locals... smile

Morningside

24,111 posts

230 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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I have honestly heard someone say Saint Reatham before.
Streatham

RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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A former colleague used to shop online at uh-MAZun (hard to type phonetically but think of starting to say "a Mazda")

motco

15,967 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
A former colleague used to shop online at uh-MAZun (hard to type phonetically but think of starting to say "a Mazda")
You've reminded me a of a bint who said she'd named her daughter wye-vonee (Yvonne) rolleyes

motco

15,967 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Morningside said:
I have honestly heard someone say Saint Reatham before.
Streatham
That's near B'TERseah isn't it? Battersea

easytiger123

2,595 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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gizlaroc said:
I was saying why the French pronounce it, not how it should be.

Let me ask you this, would you ask for 'A glass of Mo-ett?' at the bar?
Only if I was homeless. It's fizzy piss.

GOG440

9,247 posts

191 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Morningside said:
Stiffkey
Happisburgh

Google maps does get Happisburgh correct.

Teac the audio company. I have always pronounced it Tee-ACK and others teak. Appears I was correct.
Pronounced stukey and haysborough iirc

How about Slaithwaite?

locals pronounce it as slaw it