Dodging Rounds
Discussion
xRIEx said:
I think the issue is the intention; as seen here, whether there is an actual monetary gain is negligible, bit there is a perception of monetary gain. You can be damn sure that the round-dodger/round-player also thinks they're on to a monetary gain, so their attitude is one of actively trying to take advantage of people who are supposed to be their friends.
They may not be too good at it in this case, but are they trying to take advantage elsewhere within the friendship? Ultimately you've got to question whether they're the type of person you want to be friends with.
Or they might just be someone who doesn't want to drink as much as you.They may not be too good at it in this case, but are they trying to take advantage elsewhere within the friendship? Ultimately you've got to question whether they're the type of person you want to be friends with.
RizzoTheRat said:
xRIEx said:
I think the issue is the intention; as seen here, whether there is an actual monetary gain is negligible, bit there is a perception of monetary gain. You can be damn sure that the round-dodger/round-player also thinks they're on to a monetary gain, so their attitude is one of actively trying to take advantage of people who are supposed to be their friends.
They may not be too good at it in this case, but are they trying to take advantage elsewhere within the friendship? Ultimately you've got to question whether they're the type of person you want to be friends with.
Or they might just be someone who doesn't want to drink as much as you.They may not be too good at it in this case, but are they trying to take advantage elsewhere within the friendship? Ultimately you've got to question whether they're the type of person you want to be friends with.
t.I'm teetotal so it's quite rare that other people want to drink less than me.
ETA: also, the post was that the person was ordering a double when not paying, so it's not like they were trying to keep the intake down; they could order a single every round for exactly the same effect. The reason they were structuring the rounds this way is crystal clear.
Edited by xRIEx on Thursday 1st December 18:32
xRIEx said:
So why is the pattern "cheap drink when they buy, expensive drink when other person buys"? Exactly the same amount of alcohol would be consumed if it was vice versa, with the added benefit of not coming off like a grabby tt.
Because doing it the other way round would result in one person buying 2 and drinking 4, while the other buys 4 and drinks 2. t.The one drinking less being the one that buys the short rounds is the only way that it's fair as they both buy as many as they drink.
Doubles if the other person is drinking doubles also makes perfect sense, but not if the other is on singles.
Brilliant thread this .
My pet hate too and the interesting thing is these people NEVER change .
Recently had reunion with some old footie mates after 20yrs of the team disbanding and the same two tight fukkers employed the same tactics to avoid chipping in the whip or paying part the taxi fare home . At the end of the evening one of them ( I'm sure it was one of the two) left the curry restaurant bill a fiver light which I made up after a 20 second silence .
These people don't change and have no shame !
My pet hate too and the interesting thing is these people NEVER change .
Recently had reunion with some old footie mates after 20yrs of the team disbanding and the same two tight fukkers employed the same tactics to avoid chipping in the whip or paying part the taxi fare home . At the end of the evening one of them ( I'm sure it was one of the two) left the curry restaurant bill a fiver light which I made up after a 20 second silence .
These people don't change and have no shame !
FocusRS3 said:
At the end of the evening one of them ( I'm sure it was one of the two) left the curry restaurant bill a fiver light which I made up after a 20 second silence .
These people don't change and have no shame !
maybe they would if they were called out on it, that is what I don't get with these sort of stories - why people let them offThese people don't change and have no shame !
Adam B said:
FocusRS3 said:
At the end of the evening one of them ( I'm sure it was one of the two) left the curry restaurant bill a fiver light which I made up after a 20 second silence .
These people don't change and have no shame !
maybe they would if they were called out on it, that is what I don't get with these sort of stories - why people let them offThese people don't change and have no shame !
FocusRS3 said:
Adam B said:
FocusRS3 said:
At the end of the evening one of them ( I'm sure it was one of the two) left the curry restaurant bill a fiver light which I made up after a 20 second silence .
These people don't change and have no shame !
maybe they would if they were called out on it, that is what I don't get with these sort of stories - why people let them offThese people don't change and have no shame !
(fitting smilie)Some people take it to an artform.
I have a "mate" guilty of the "moonwalk" and the "my friends tips pay for my meal" trick.
He would also be the last out of the group to get a round in so the chances of him buying a second round before the night was done got smaller.
Probably see him once a year now, hasn't changed.
I have a "mate" guilty of the "moonwalk" and the "my friends tips pay for my meal" trick.
He would also be the last out of the group to get a round in so the chances of him buying a second round before the night was done got smaller.
Probably see him once a year now, hasn't changed.
There is a lad at my work does this, when it's coming to the next round he tends to say "I'm just nipping to the toilet, get me my usual" then misses his round....
But we have our Christmas meal and night out this Saturday which the company pay for everything, meal then going out after BUT my boss is going to force him to buy a round and has advised us all do force him also, just for the banter.
If I'm not to drunk I shall get some video footage of this.
But we have our Christmas meal and night out this Saturday which the company pay for everything, meal then going out after BUT my boss is going to force him to buy a round and has advised us all do force him also, just for the banter.
If I'm not to drunk I shall get some video footage of this.
We don't really have an issue amongst the men with dodging rounds when the girls aren't out with us. If we did, the offender would just have the piss taken out of them until they felt ashamed enough to cough up.
It's when its a mixed group and the couples consider themselves a single entity for buying rounds, but obviously take a drink each every time that winds me up.
My Mrs is usually pretty short of cash. We don't have joint finances because she's terrible with money. She always INSISTS on buying a round, even if she's on the cokes and is driving people home. Daft really, but she's too proud not to.
It's when its a mixed group and the couples consider themselves a single entity for buying rounds, but obviously take a drink each every time that winds me up.
My Mrs is usually pretty short of cash. We don't have joint finances because she's terrible with money. She always INSISTS on buying a round, even if she's on the cokes and is driving people home. Daft really, but she's too proud not to.
HaplessBoyLard said:
We don't really have an issue amongst the men with dodging rounds when the girls aren't out with us. If we did, the offender would just have the piss taken out of them until they felt ashamed enough to cough up.
It's when its a mixed group and the couples consider themselves a single entity for buying rounds, but obviously take a drink each every time that winds me up.
My Mrs is usually pretty short of cash. We don't have joint finances because she's terrible with money. She always INSISTS on buying a round, even if she's on the cokes and is driving people home. Daft really, but she's too proud not to.
Top bird then , It's when its a mixed group and the couples consider themselves a single entity for buying rounds, but obviously take a drink each every time that winds me up.
My Mrs is usually pretty short of cash. We don't have joint finances because she's terrible with money. She always INSISTS on buying a round, even if she's on the cokes and is driving people home. Daft really, but she's too proud not to.
I thought of this thread on Saturday night whilst at a pub in London, getting drinks in for my wife and I, whilst out with a group 5 couples en route to somewhere else - a quick drink for an hour, as it were. We'd agreed 'every couple for themsleves' so as to avoid anyone getting stung by a large round.
Wife: "will you get a bottle of wine and share it with me, it's cheaper that way"
Me: "well I've just ordered a pint and was gonna get you a large glass, but sure, I'll go on the wine after my beer" .... (pays barkeep £27.50 for said beer and wine)
Me: (20 mins later) "Let's have a glass of that wine then"
Wife: "Oh, sorry, it's gone, I topped up the girls" (who have now promptly Foxtrot Oscar'd)
Apparently "it's Christmas" permits this. Grrrr.
Thanks, Jesus!
Wife: "will you get a bottle of wine and share it with me, it's cheaper that way"
Me: "well I've just ordered a pint and was gonna get you a large glass, but sure, I'll go on the wine after my beer" .... (pays barkeep £27.50 for said beer and wine)
Me: (20 mins later) "Let's have a glass of that wine then"
Wife: "Oh, sorry, it's gone, I topped up the girls" (who have now promptly Foxtrot Oscar'd)
Apparently "it's Christmas" permits this. Grrrr.
Thanks, Jesus!
honest_delboy said:
Some people take it to an artform.
I have a "mate" guilty of the "my friends tips pay for my meal" trick.
Now this is a real problem, especially with bigger groups. Someone patting their trouser leg and faffing with their wallet while everyone pays in their money plus a tip as you never have the right amount anyway. Cue Mr Tight Bar Steward waiting till last, saying 'well count the money then', and oh, that's over the amount of the bill, no point me paying my money in, shouting that's the bill sorted and quickly scurrying off. I have a "mate" guilty of the "my friends tips pay for my meal" trick.
Interesting thread this to read of other people's experiences and frustrations. No real judgement on it but find it interesting what an emotive subject to is, more so to some than others.
One thing that bothers me is the sense of entitlement that can sit with some people in these circumstances. I witness many occasions whereby its almost viewed as automatic that someone who is present but less wealthy, female or considered more junior expect them to be paid for. No appreciation or thanks for it, just expectation. I am not talking about dates or work events whereby the participants are invited to attend, but social events where they have invited themselves. The idea of me rocking up to something expecting someone else to fund it is beyond me. If I couldn't afford an event I wouldn't go rather than expect a subsidy.
One thing that bothers me is the sense of entitlement that can sit with some people in these circumstances. I witness many occasions whereby its almost viewed as automatic that someone who is present but less wealthy, female or considered more junior expect them to be paid for. No appreciation or thanks for it, just expectation. I am not talking about dates or work events whereby the participants are invited to attend, but social events where they have invited themselves. The idea of me rocking up to something expecting someone else to fund it is beyond me. If I couldn't afford an event I wouldn't go rather than expect a subsidy.
Only ever had two mates do this. Both were tossers in the extreme when it came to buying drinks, paying for their meal, etc. In both cases I've been pretty vocal when I spotted it, and so have my mates.
One of them was taking the piss on a mates weekend get together. I picked him up on a Friday afternoon to go to the Center Parcs cottage we rented for the group. Two other mates arrived shortly after, the rest would arrive later that afternoon/early evening. As we were the first there, we would be getting the groceries. The four of us agreed on €50,- each, but only three chipped in... "Ow... are we supposed to pay it now?" The next day we would go to Brussels expo. Upon waiting inline to pay our tickets, the tight wad spots that it's cash only. "Can someone pay for me? I've only got my card on me..." "There's a card only line two windows on, you daft c*nt!" Not the response he wanted. At dinner that night, most people had run out of cash so we stopped at the cash machine. He didn't. When the bill came, we all had more of less the same amount to pay. He said he didn't have cash on him and that he'd pay by card. Everyone was onto him, so we when he went to pay we sent our biggest and loudest friend along with him to make sure he'd pay and hand in the tip
This went on all weekend, with most of us getting more and more vocal and p*ssed of about his behavior. Two days after the weekend we all got a text; "I think I don't fit in your group..."
It was my first experience with him in this way, but apparently he'd been doing this for a while longer. Even taking some of the tips back after everyone had chipped in, effectively stealing other people's cash.
One of them was taking the piss on a mates weekend get together. I picked him up on a Friday afternoon to go to the Center Parcs cottage we rented for the group. Two other mates arrived shortly after, the rest would arrive later that afternoon/early evening. As we were the first there, we would be getting the groceries. The four of us agreed on €50,- each, but only three chipped in... "Ow... are we supposed to pay it now?" The next day we would go to Brussels expo. Upon waiting inline to pay our tickets, the tight wad spots that it's cash only. "Can someone pay for me? I've only got my card on me..." "There's a card only line two windows on, you daft c*nt!" Not the response he wanted. At dinner that night, most people had run out of cash so we stopped at the cash machine. He didn't. When the bill came, we all had more of less the same amount to pay. He said he didn't have cash on him and that he'd pay by card. Everyone was onto him, so we when he went to pay we sent our biggest and loudest friend along with him to make sure he'd pay and hand in the tip
This went on all weekend, with most of us getting more and more vocal and p*ssed of about his behavior. Two days after the weekend we all got a text; "I think I don't fit in your group..."
It was my first experience with him in this way, but apparently he'd been doing this for a while longer. Even taking some of the tips back after everyone had chipped in, effectively stealing other people's cash.
Toyoda said:
Now this is a real problem, especially with bigger groups. Someone patting their trouser leg and faffing with their wallet while everyone pays in their money plus a tip as you never have the right amount anyway. Cue Mr Tight Bar Steward waiting till last, saying 'well count the money then', and oh, that's over the amount of the bill, no point me paying my money in, shouting that's the bill sorted and quickly scurrying off.
I've only encountered this issue once and the whole group got pissed off with the guy. I was handed the bill, announced how much it was and suggested a 10% tip, rounding it up to the nearest fiver (let's say it was £25). There was 10 of us, so the total amount I was due to hold was obvious. Came to the tt and he asked how much was due to cover the bill. Me: Well I'm holding £225, so £25
t
t: No, how much is left to pay?Me: £25
t
t: Doesn't the money you're holding cover it?Me: It still needs your £25. It's £25 each.
t
t: But the bill is £202Me: I'll explain it again, really slowly...
This went on a while until everyone noticed and took great offence that this dick felt that he should have a free meal paid for by us. We all went on to a bar afterwards and the t
t went straight home without saying a word, probably feeling angry with us all. Edited by StuTheGrouch on Friday 16th December 08:24
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