Dodging Rounds
Discussion
Jordan210 said:
GCH said:
Genuine question to the people getting wound up at this... do you also dislike splitting the bill when out for dinner and instead prefer to get the calculator out to work out exactly what everyone has spent and not a penny more?
If everyone has had equal food its fine. When someone takes the piss and orders the most expensive thing, extra sides and so on. Then I get annoyedWent out for a meal recently and it turned out to be a £35 a head buffet. There were 12 of us. 10 of us were drinking normal drinks but one lad and his Mrs ended up ordering four bottles of £47 wine and then wanted to split the bill.
That wound me up. Piss taking b
d!Nezquick said:
Agreed.
Went out for a meal recently and it turned out to be a £35 a head buffet. There were 12 of us. 10 of us were drinking normal drinks but one lad and his Mrs ended up ordering four bottles of £47 wine and then wanted to split the bill.
That wound me up. Piss taking bd!
The real pros will make a couple of others have a glass with them so that when the questioning starts they've got a quorum all set. Went out for a meal recently and it turned out to be a £35 a head buffet. There were 12 of us. 10 of us were drinking normal drinks but one lad and his Mrs ended up ordering four bottles of £47 wine and then wanted to split the bill.
That wound me up. Piss taking b
d!The reality is that you should front it out with them there and then, in front of everyone else. Just ask them what they think they're playing at trying to defraud everyone and get them to underwrite their expenses.
They won't ever turn up again and they'll swerve you for ever more. A perfect win.
Always call out the free loaders and do it in front of everyone.
Centurion07 said:
Slightly more on topic: what's the etiquette regarding late arrivals and buying rounds?
Depends how big the group is and how long you are staying. Take tuesday an email went round to 6/7 people in different companies about having a swift drink after work. but we know there will be the same three who turn up at 5:31 so first in the pub gets three pints in. They are jumping on a train at 7pm so that's our round, three pints and done. Anyone comes later then they are one their own or can make a smaller round with whoever turns up later than them. Centurion07 said:
One of our group, without fail, will NEVER locate the group first, preferring to go to the bar, get his own drink (two bottles invariably as they're 2 for a fiver) THEN come over. Having bought 2 bottles it now means not only did he not top up the table, so to speak, on arrival, but he won't be getting up to get the next round as he's now nursing 2 drinks!
Sometimes I will turn up and a few people are already in a round so I will just go on my own. Other times I just don't want to drink at the same pace as other people, be that quicker or slower.The people who sponge off others are despicable. Particularly in a business situation. 
Some say, vegetarian's share of a split (restaurant) bill will always be less than meat-eating wine-drinking friends. What is the best answer to this dilemma? Order more side dishes to make up the discrepancy? Insist that one only pays for what he/she/they consumed?
Some say, vegetarian's share of a split (restaurant) bill will always be less than meat-eating wine-drinking friends. What is the best answer to this dilemma? Order more side dishes to make up the discrepancy? Insist that one only pays for what he/she/they consumed?
I went out with the wifes friends years ago, to another friends birthday party meal i was driving so on soft drinks, the rest of the table where downing bottles of wine. At the end on the evening the bill for our table was bought out and was huge, then came the suggestion to split the bill equal i think not. I just went up to the till paid our bill and a few quid tip and left, i hate the lets split the bill brigade,as some people always st out.
t out.We have a guy at work who round dodges, he's also a multimillionaire, he's obviously been very good at dodging rounds! I just take the piss out of him and when he concedes and asks what we all want we all make stupid suggestions like a bottle of Krug or suchlike.
Sometimes the round think really doesn't work like if you're on a pub crawl, it's easier just to nominate a kitty man and throw £20 in each.
As for bill splitting if I notice someone hasn't had much/anything to drink I'll take the bill work out their food cost+tip and then check that the remainder are happy to split the balance. If someone's had nothing but a starter and someone else has had a fillet steak it's just not going to work and it's easier to pass the bill around and ask people to throw in their cash. My friends are all pretty good at paying their way thankfully, in fact back on the rounds topic we have a joke about it always being one guys round because he seems to think every other round is his regardless of how many of us there are.
Sometimes the round think really doesn't work like if you're on a pub crawl, it's easier just to nominate a kitty man and throw £20 in each.
As for bill splitting if I notice someone hasn't had much/anything to drink I'll take the bill work out their food cost+tip and then check that the remainder are happy to split the balance. If someone's had nothing but a starter and someone else has had a fillet steak it's just not going to work and it's easier to pass the bill around and ask people to throw in their cash. My friends are all pretty good at paying their way thankfully, in fact back on the rounds topic we have a joke about it always being one guys round because he seems to think every other round is his regardless of how many of us there are.
I used to go to football with a few lads and I'd invariably drive as I had the most suitable car.
Given the timing We'd only ever have time for a couple of pints and id never suggested they pay for petrol, yet despite chauffeuring these tts by the third week I'd notice that I'd always manage to reach the bar first. Come the third week and they've all moonwalked out of the way I ordered a round and picked up the first pulled and started to walk away from the bar, when ask where I was going I replied to check on the bus timetable as they'd need to know the route home if they expected me to buy the drink again.
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Given the timing We'd only ever have time for a couple of pints and id never suggested they pay for petrol, yet despite chauffeuring these t
ts by the third week I'd notice that I'd always manage to reach the bar first. Come the third week and they've all moonwalked out of the way I ordered a round and picked up the first pulled and started to walk away from the bar, when ask where I was going I replied to check on the bus timetable as they'd need to know the route home if they expected me to buy the drink again.t
tsgtidriver said:
I went out with the wifes friends years ago, to another friends birthday party meal i was driving so on soft drinks, the rest of the table where downing bottles of wine. At the end on the evening the bill for our table was bought out and was huge, then came the suggestion to split the bill equal i think not. I just went up to the till paid our bill and a few quid tip and left, i hate the lets split the bill brigade,as some people always st out.
was your wife drinking? if she was and bearing in mind that soft drinks are often quite expensive in restaurants, you probably wouldn't of been massively mugged off. for me, the wine would of had to of been expensive and in very large quantities to leave in that fashion and sour the end of an evening. even if she didn't say it, your wife was probably embarrassed by you doing that in front of her friends, a cheapskate never looks cool.t out.i do sympathise however as it would of been good form for at least one of them to note your sober evening and make a token adjustment to your contribution, people can be very self absorbed at times. if it was me i would of suggested you only paid for your food, as a DD.
take a taxi next time and get smashed!
I've known a few like this, it's almost impressive how skilled some people are at it. 
We often joke about getting them in early so there's nobody there and most will have gone home before it's your turn again, but to actually dodge rounds reliably night after night is definitely a skill in itself.
There's also more than one couple I know (although one are worst at it by quite a margin) who will drink everything in fking sight when there's a group out for a meal, I mean two or three times the quantity of alcohol that anybody else manages and often have at least an extra course or order the most expensive options, yet always manage to get the bill split equally. They're really brazen about it too. Really gets on my tits to be honest, occasionally you end up paying a bit more for a cheaper meal out of a group and that's OK but this couple (and to a lesser extent others I know) really and blatantly take the piss. 
We often joke about getting them in early so there's nobody there and most will have gone home before it's your turn again, but to actually dodge rounds reliably night after night is definitely a skill in itself.
There's also more than one couple I know (although one are worst at it by quite a margin) who will drink everything in f
king sight when there's a group out for a meal, I mean two or three times the quantity of alcohol that anybody else manages and often have at least an extra course or order the most expensive options, yet always manage to get the bill split equally. They're really brazen about it too. Really gets on my tits to be honest, occasionally you end up paying a bit more for a cheaper meal out of a group and that's OK but this couple (and to a lesser extent others I know) really and blatantly take the piss. GCH said:
Genuine question to the people getting wound up at this... do you also dislike splitting the bill when out for dinner and instead prefer to get the calculator out to work out exactly what everyone has spent and not a penny more?
me and my mates always had an idea in our head of what we've ordered. everyone always looks at the bill and usually rounds up to the nearest £5 or so. Although 9/10 times I never pay the tip then they all start chipping extra in for it. *shrugs*As for rounds, sometimes I don't bother, most of us don't bother if we're in a group of more than 4-5. I usually just turn up and get myself 2 pints then get myself another each time i go toilet or ill give someone some money as they go up for their own.
Splitting dinner bills is a little more complex than a round of drinks. Depends where you eat, who you're with and what you're eating/drinking.
Most of the time if everyone has roughly the same it's split between the number of people.
If some are drinking alcohol and having starters and puddings when others aren't, it usually gets split up and paid individually.
I tend to try not to go out with people who prefer the second option as inevitably someone won't pay enough or won't add tip or will 'forget to pay' and the rest of us will be left paying more. Or as happened a few years back somebody just won't bother paying at all and go home leaving me to pay for it.
Most of the time if everyone has roughly the same it's split between the number of people.
If some are drinking alcohol and having starters and puddings when others aren't, it usually gets split up and paid individually.
I tend to try not to go out with people who prefer the second option as inevitably someone won't pay enough or won't add tip or will 'forget to pay' and the rest of us will be left paying more. Or as happened a few years back somebody just won't bother paying at all and go home leaving me to pay for it.
EarlOfHazard said:
Zodiac M said:
SeeFive said:
My daughter got married. The other family were deeply involved on speccing the wedding, venue, food etc, but of course didn't pay for any of it. The grooms father made a cake as he is a baker, and to be fair, not short of a few bob.
The weather was scorching on the day, and the venue was closer to them than me. Plus I had to go in a car with my daughter to the venue. So, I suggested that as the bar would not be able to open immediately after the ceremony, and it was hot could they pick up some soft drinks and get the to the venue to stop people from dehydrating in the heat while the photographer took the usual hours to take pictures. They got a 4 pack of coke and a 4 pack of lemonade... For 120 guests... Mostly their crew.
Anyway, after the ceremony and meal, I put a tab behind the bar. After a couple of hours they called me over and said it was 1200 quid. Carry on, let me know when it is 2 and a half grand. This conversation was overheard by one of the in law family, and inside 15 minutes, they all had 5 rounds each lined up on each table.
I kind of thought that was taking the piss, closed the tab and kind of half expected the other wker to pick it up out of guilt. Did he feck. Complete tight wads and leeches to a person.
ETA: when I say pick it up, I mean open a new one going forward for the last hour or so. I had paid the last one already and he had contributed precisely one bunch of cake ingredients and 8 bottles of pop to a £35 grand wedding that his wife and kids had specced, and was 75% attended by his lot...
I seethed quite a lot reading that.The weather was scorching on the day, and the venue was closer to them than me. Plus I had to go in a car with my daughter to the venue. So, I suggested that as the bar would not be able to open immediately after the ceremony, and it was hot could they pick up some soft drinks and get the to the venue to stop people from dehydrating in the heat while the photographer took the usual hours to take pictures. They got a 4 pack of coke and a 4 pack of lemonade... For 120 guests... Mostly their crew.
Anyway, after the ceremony and meal, I put a tab behind the bar. After a couple of hours they called me over and said it was 1200 quid. Carry on, let me know when it is 2 and a half grand. This conversation was overheard by one of the in law family, and inside 15 minutes, they all had 5 rounds each lined up on each table.
I kind of thought that was taking the piss, closed the tab and kind of half expected the other w
ker to pick it up out of guilt. Did he feck. Complete tight wads and leeches to a person.ETA: when I say pick it up, I mean open a new one going forward for the last hour or so. I had paid the last one already and he had contributed precisely one bunch of cake ingredients and 8 bottles of pop to a £35 grand wedding that his wife and kids had specced, and was 75% attended by his lot...
Edited by SeeFive on Wednesday 30th November 14:17
pork911 said:
I've got to ask...seen much of them since? What's son in law like?
Actually, no we don't see them strangely enough. Anyway couldn't for a while until he got out of hospital as I was typically at work in visiting hours. 
Son in law is a seriously good lad, not at all like the rest of them. Almost a shame that he and my daughter separated almost exactly a year into their marriage and are now divorced.
Yes, I know. About £3k a month is quite an expensive wedding
. I won't be doing it again for her next one...SeeFive said:
Yes, I know. About £3k a month is quite an expensive wedding . I won't be doing it again for her next one...
There was a thread a few years back about that. I think one wedding cost something similarly to your daughter's, but only lasted 17 weeks or something! Not that it will make you feel better, but you're not alone. I won't be doing it again for her next one...Like many here a chap in my group of friends was a round dodger of the utmost stealth and cunning to the extent that it had to be pointed out to some of the group. Over the course of the next few months everyone had noticed, so for a bit of fun a plan was hatched whilst this chap dissapeared off to the loo, yes it was his round.
He returned and sat down at the table, seeming a little confused as to why there wasn't a fresh pint waiting. The hatcher of the plan gets up and says to the dodger "you've got an empty glass there Rob do you want another?" as he held up his glass in an Oliver Twist stylee we all shoved our empty glasses down the table to him and shouted mines a pint.
Although he bought that round he hasn't changed.
He returned and sat down at the table, seeming a little confused as to why there wasn't a fresh pint waiting. The hatcher of the plan gets up and says to the dodger "you've got an empty glass there Rob do you want another?" as he held up his glass in an Oliver Twist stylee we all shoved our empty glasses down the table to him and shouted mines a pint.
Although he bought that round he hasn't changed.
ashleyman said:
Splitting dinner bills is a little more complex than a round of drinks. Depends where you eat, who you're with and what you're eating/drinking.
Most of the time if everyone has roughly the same it's split between the number of people.
If some are drinking alcohol and having starters and puddings when others aren't, it usually gets split up and paid individually.
I tend to try not to go out with people who prefer the second option as inevitably someone won't pay enough or won't add tip or will 'forget to pay' and the rest of us will be left paying more. Or as happened a few years back somebody just won't bother paying at all and go home leaving me to pay for it.
This is true, I find most people are happy with the first option but then most of the people I know will volunteer to cover a larger bit of the bill if they've spent more, this pair though will avoid it at all costs but almost always seem to eat and drink their way through an absolute fortune. Most of the time if everyone has roughly the same it's split between the number of people.
If some are drinking alcohol and having starters and puddings when others aren't, it usually gets split up and paid individually.
I tend to try not to go out with people who prefer the second option as inevitably someone won't pay enough or won't add tip or will 'forget to pay' and the rest of us will be left paying more. Or as happened a few years back somebody just won't bother paying at all and go home leaving me to pay for it.
davidn said:
Like many here a chap in my group of friends was a round dodger of the utmost stealth and cunning to the extent that it had to be pointed out to some of the group. Over the course of the next few months everyone had noticed, so for a bit of fun a plan was hatched whilst this chap dissapeared off to the loo, yes it was his round.
He returned and sat down at the table, seeming a little confused as to why there wasn't a fresh pint waiting. The hatcher of the plan gets up and says to the dodger "you've got an empty glass there Rob do you want another?" as he held up his glass in an Oliver Twist stylee we all shoved our empty glasses down the table to him and shouted mines a pint.
Although he bought that round he hasn't changed.
Why not just stop inviting him out?He returned and sat down at the table, seeming a little confused as to why there wasn't a fresh pint waiting. The hatcher of the plan gets up and says to the dodger "you've got an empty glass there Rob do you want another?" as he held up his glass in an Oliver Twist stylee we all shoved our empty glasses down the table to him and shouted mines a pint.
Although he bought that round he hasn't changed.
I've got a couple of mates who dodge rounds , I end up keeping an eye on them until their round and just tell them out loud it's their round and make sure everyone else hears .
One of the cheeky bds once sat in the restaurant , waited for the bill to be shared out equally , everyone else paid cash and included a tip , 12 people , and announced as he had no cash he would pay the bill on his card . No problem you would think but that's all he did , pay the bill , he kept the tip for himself ! One of the party had noticed this but didn't say anything at the time .
One of the cheeky b
ds once sat in the restaurant , waited for the bill to be shared out equally , everyone else paid cash and included a tip , 12 people , and announced as he had no cash he would pay the bill on his card . No problem you would think but that's all he did , pay the bill , he kept the tip for himself ! One of the party had noticed this but didn't say anything at the time . Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff