Paranormal experiences
Discussion
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Jaroon said:
Yeah I get a bit tried of internet dwellers arrogantly dismissing anything that isn't proven by science, the same science they don't really understand but take on blind faith and the word of their preachers.
Genuine scientists are much more open minded than the layman spouting about atoms, quantum physics, gravity etc. which they simply don't understand but choose to believe that particular story on faith which btw is limited by our intellect, language, life span, perceptions and so on. Inevitably science has used massive short cuts and short hand, a vastly superior intellect would have a very different understanding of our universe which, for me, means I take our currently understanding as no more than a work in early progress, not the final conclusion or only way to look at things.
2016....and this is the level of understanding of the scientific method. How utterly depressing. Genuine scientists are much more open minded than the layman spouting about atoms, quantum physics, gravity etc. which they simply don't understand but choose to believe that particular story on faith which btw is limited by our intellect, language, life span, perceptions and so on. Inevitably science has used massive short cuts and short hand, a vastly superior intellect would have a very different understanding of our universe which, for me, means I take our currently understanding as no more than a work in early progress, not the final conclusion or only way to look at things.
Edited by Jaroon on Sunday 4th December 18:08
Could be a space time echo I guess - but why is it always the same old bulls
t?
Never a case of they are communicating to people about the wonders of the afterlife, or sharing some other meaningful insight - it's always some bullst about a door being opened, footsteps being heard, plug turned off, chair being moved. Really mundane stuff.
Why wouldn't a ghost not do something more meaningful ?
Why wouldn't they go and do something they enjoy ?
Why would the fact someone once lived at a certain place be the centre for that ghost to remain at and haunt?
For example, would someone who died in England in a stty council house not waft over to Australia and enjoy the beach instead?
Why would some ghosts not be chilling out with other ghosts?
In a global population that we have and the number of deaths per minute, why isn't the whole world crawling with ghosts in every corner?
Why do ghosts have to like the dark and only appear then - which genetically is where we are programmed to fear the most?
t? Never a case of they are communicating to people about the wonders of the afterlife, or sharing some other meaningful insight - it's always some bulls
t about a door being opened, footsteps being heard, plug turned off, chair being moved. Really mundane stuff.Why wouldn't a ghost not do something more meaningful ?
Why wouldn't they go and do something they enjoy ?
Why would the fact someone once lived at a certain place be the centre for that ghost to remain at and haunt?
For example, would someone who died in England in a s
tty council house not waft over to Australia and enjoy the beach instead?Why would some ghosts not be chilling out with other ghosts?
In a global population that we have and the number of deaths per minute, why isn't the whole world crawling with ghosts in every corner?
Why do ghosts have to like the dark and only appear then - which genetically is where we are programmed to fear the most?
boobles said:
To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens 
The brother of a friend of mine tried a ouija board at 16 years old. He went completey insane and has remained so for over 40 years.My personal view is that they should be destroyed, but its your call.
Robbo 27 said:
boobles said:
To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens
The brother of a friend of mine tried a ouija board at 16 years old. He went completey insane and has remained so for over 40 years.My personal view is that they should be destroyed, but its your call.
Ouija board cups and dowsing wands – just two examples of mystical items that seem to move of their own accord, when they are really being moved by the people holding them. The only mystery is not one of a connection to the spirit world, but of why we can make movements and yet not realise that we're making them.
The phenomenon is called the ideomotor effect and you can witness it yourself if you hang a small weight like a button or a ring from a string (ideally more than a foot long). Hold the end of the string with your arm out in front of you, so the weight hangs down freely. Try to hold your arm completely still. The weight will start to swing clockwise or anticlockwise in small circles. Do not start this motion yourself. Instead, just ask yourself a question – any question – and say that the weight will swing clockwise to answer "Yes" and anticlockwise for "No". Hold this thought in mind, and soon, even though you are trying not to make any motion, the weight will start to swing in answer to your question.
Magic? Only the ordinary everyday magic of consciousness. There's no supernatural force at work, just tiny movements you are making without realising. The string allows these movements to be exaggerated, the inertia of the weight allows them to be conserved and built on until they form a regular swinging motion. The effect is known as Chevreul's Pendulum, after the 19th Century French scientist who investigated it.
What is happening with Chevreul's Pendulum is that you are witnessing a movement (of the weight) without "owning" that movement as being caused by you. The same basic phenomenon underlies dowsing – where small movements of the hands cause the dowsing wand to swing wildly – or the Ouija board, where multiple people hold a cup and it seems to move of its own accord to answer questions by spelling out letters.
This effect also underlies the sad case of "facilitated communication", a fad whereby carers believed they could help severely disabled children communicate by guiding their fingers around a keyboard. Research showed that the carers – completely innocently – were typing the messages themselves, rather than interpreting movements from their charges.
BigLion said:
Could be a space time echo I guess - but why is it always the same old bullst?
Never a case of they are communicating to people about the wonders of the afterlife, or sharing some other meaningful insight - it's always some bullst about a door being opened, footsteps being heard, plug turned off, chair being moved. Really mundane stuff.
Why wouldn't a ghost not do something more meaningful ?
Why wouldn't they go and do something they enjoy ?
Why would the fact someone once lived at a certain place be the centre for that ghost to remain at and haunt?
For example, would someone who died in England in a stty council house not waft over to Australia and enjoy the beach instead?
Why would some ghosts not be chilling out with other ghosts?
In a global population that we have and the number of deaths per minute, why isn't the whole world crawling with ghosts in every corner?
Why do ghosts have to like the dark and only appear then - which genetically is where we are programmed to fear the most?
Your mate who dictated the post for you to type so you don't look stupid has made it worse so tell him to stop it.t? Never a case of they are communicating to people about the wonders of the afterlife, or sharing some other meaningful insight - it's always some bulls
t about a door being opened, footsteps being heard, plug turned off, chair being moved. Really mundane stuff.Why wouldn't a ghost not do something more meaningful ?
Why wouldn't they go and do something they enjoy ?
Why would the fact someone once lived at a certain place be the centre for that ghost to remain at and haunt?
For example, would someone who died in England in a s
tty council house not waft over to Australia and enjoy the beach instead?Why would some ghosts not be chilling out with other ghosts?
In a global population that we have and the number of deaths per minute, why isn't the whole world crawling with ghosts in every corner?
Why do ghosts have to like the dark and only appear then - which genetically is where we are programmed to fear the most?
Robbo 27 said:
boobles said:
To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens
The brother of a friend of mine tried a ouija board at 16 years old. He went completey insane and has remained so for over 40 years.My personal view is that they should be destroyed, but its your call.
Robbo 27 said:
boobles said:
To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens
The brother of a friend of mine tried a ouija board at 16 years old. He went completey insane and has remained so for over 40 years.My personal view is that they should be destroyed, but its your call.
Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Sunday 4th December 22:31
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Robbo 27 said:
boobles said:
To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens
The brother of a friend of mine tried a ouija board at 16 years old. He went completey insane and has remained so for over 40 years.My personal view is that they should be destroyed, but its your call.
BigLion said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Robbo 27 said:
boobles said:
To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens
The brother of a friend of mine tried a ouija board at 16 years old. He went completey insane and has remained so for over 40 years.My personal view is that they should be destroyed, but its your call.
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
BigLion said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Robbo 27 said:
boobles said:
To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens
The brother of a friend of mine tried a ouija board at 16 years old. He went completey insane and has remained so for over 40 years.My personal view is that they should be destroyed, but its your call.
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