Paranormal experiences
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Years ago I saw an experiment thing on TV. They took 30 people to an old manor house for an overnight stay. They split them into 2 groups of 15. The first group were told the manor house was haunted. 150 yrs ago a young girl had been murdered whilst asleep, in a white victorian nightdress, and apparently she haunted the manor house.
The 2nd group were told they were staying overnight, before visiting a haunted abbey the next day.
The next morning they asked the 2 groups how they'd slept. About 12 or so people in group 1 had a terrible night. All kinds of spooky happenings, cold draughts, noises, windows flying open, all the way up to seeing a young girl in a white nightdress.
The 2nd group had nothing to report.
Anyone have an explanation for this?
The 2nd group were told they were staying overnight, before visiting a haunted abbey the next day.
The next morning they asked the 2 groups how they'd slept. About 12 or so people in group 1 had a terrible night. All kinds of spooky happenings, cold draughts, noises, windows flying open, all the way up to seeing a young girl in a white nightdress.
The 2nd group had nothing to report.
Anyone have an explanation for this?
BigLion said:
This thread is funny...for example, a ghost that everyday pulls a chair out from the dining table in the conservatory - I mean ffs why would the ghost want a chair. Why doesn't the ghost go the full hog and make a fry up.
You guys need to have a word with yourselves.
I actually do agree with this but some things can or can't be explained & it's the unexplained that interests me.You guys need to have a word with yourselves.
boobles said:
BigLion said:
This thread is funny...for example, a ghost that everyday pulls a chair out from the dining table in the conservatory - I mean ffs why would the ghost want a chair. Why doesn't the ghost go the full hog and make a fry up.
You guys need to have a word with yourselves.
I actually do agree with this but some things can or can't be explained & it's the unexplained that interests me.You guys need to have a word with yourselves.
Like I said I don't automatically believe that a ghost moved the chair in the conservatory but I can tell you that as the last one out and the first one back most days that chair had moved. No idea why but it is "paranormal" in that chairs don't move themselves. I can't explain it so can you BigLion?
Twig, that's a human factors favourite. Being taught something is true means you seek that truth. Not much different to prayer I guess. People that know people are praying for them tend to recover quicker than others, mind over matter.
djc206 said:
boobles said:
BigLion said:
This thread is funny...for example, a ghost that everyday pulls a chair out from the dining table in the conservatory - I mean ffs why would the ghost want a chair. Why doesn't the ghost go the full hog and make a fry up.
You guys need to have a word with yourselves.
I actually do agree with this but some things can or can't be explained & it's the unexplained that interests me.You guys need to have a word with yourselves.
Like I said I don't automatically believe that a ghost moved the chair in the conservatory but I can tell you that as the last one out and the first one back most days that chair had moved. No idea why but it is "paranormal" in that chairs don't move themselves. I can't explain it so can you BigLion?
Twig, that's a human factors favourite. Being taught something is true means you seek that truth. Not much different to prayer I guess. People that know people are praying for them tend to recover quicker than others, mind over matter.
Rollin said:
You forgot that you or someone else moved the chair. It's either that or the entirety of humanity's scientific endeavours have been in vain. Which do you reckon?
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ks. Got to the point where out of curiosity we'd ensure the chair was tucked in and right enough it had moved when we got back. No tricks or forgetfulness.It can probably be explained by science, it was a metal chair so small localised magnetic field caused by a buried object combined with an imperceptible incline in the tiled floor perhaps? To argue that everything you can't explain is a ghost would be ridiculous equally to argue that it's made up bulls
t is equally unscientific. In Death Valley rocks up to 600lbs move and leave trails, for years no one could figure it out, there's a theory now that they're moved by ice. It was considered paranormal now we've got an explanation for it, that's how science works. I don't think a ghost moved that chair I said that in my earlier post but at the same time I can't explain it satisfactorily someone else may be able to.
djc206 said:
People that know people are praying for them tend to recover quicker than others, mind over matter.
No they don'thttp://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.ht...
Study said:
Prayers offered by strangers had no effect on the recovery of people who were undergoing heart surgery, a large and long-awaited study has found.
And patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate of post-operative complications like abnormal heart rhythms, perhaps because of the expectations the prayers created
And patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate of post-operative complications like abnormal heart rhythms, perhaps because of the expectations the prayers created
djc206 said:
bks. Got to the point where out of curiosity we'd ensure the chair was tucked in and right enough it had moved when we got back. No tricks or forgetfulness.
It can probably be explained by science, it was a metal chair so small localised magnetic field caused by a buried object combined with an imperceptible incline in the tiled floor perhaps? To argue that everything you can't explain is a ghost would be ridiculous equally to argue that it's made up bullst is equally unscientific.
In Death Valley rocks up to 600lbs move and leave trails, for years no one could figure it out, there's a theory now that they're moved by ice. It was considered paranormal now we've got an explanation for it, that's how science works. I don't think a ghost moved that chair I said that in my earlier post but at the same time I can't explain it satisfactorily someone else may be able to.
I think there's a lot to do with magnetism yet to be investigated but known to exist. Right through from animals homing instincts to, as you say, rocks moving. There was a horror film years ago called The Stone Tapes which was set around the ability of the fabric of a building to record and replay. The Christian 'laying of hands' on the sick and the clasping of hands to pray are related to completing a magnetic field but the understanding lost nowadays, it it was ever understood in the first place.ks. Got to the point where out of curiosity we'd ensure the chair was tucked in and right enough it had moved when we got back. No tricks or forgetfulness.It can probably be explained by science, it was a metal chair so small localised magnetic field caused by a buried object combined with an imperceptible incline in the tiled floor perhaps? To argue that everything you can't explain is a ghost would be ridiculous equally to argue that it's made up bulls
t is equally unscientific. In Death Valley rocks up to 600lbs move and leave trails, for years no one could figure it out, there's a theory now that they're moved by ice. It was considered paranormal now we've got an explanation for it, that's how science works. I don't think a ghost moved that chair I said that in my earlier post but at the same time I can't explain it satisfactorily someone else may be able to.
One thing remains though - there's a heck of a lot of sane everyday people who have a had experiences beyond explanation by currently understood science.
djc206 said:
People that know people are praying for them tend to recover quicker than others, mind over matter.
I'm sure this has been exposed by experiments as untrue.I'm sure mind over matter, placebo effect, can help with pain, but a cancerous tumour doesn't know its host is being prayed for or not.
jmorgan said:
Stick a web cam on the chair
Everyone knows that nothing will be recorded. The explanation will be that the ghost has stopped doing what it used to do, rather than accepting that they made a mistake.This is the real problem. People are very reluctant to accept their own failures in remembering or analysing something accurately.
alock said:
jmorgan said:
Stick a web cam on the chair
Everyone knows that nothing will be recorded. The explanation will be that the ghost has stopped doing what it used to do, rather than accepting that they made a mistake.This is the real problem. People are very reluctant to accept their own failures in remembering or analysing something accurately.
smn159 said:
djc206 said:
People that know people are praying for them tend to recover quicker than others, mind over matter.
No they don'thttp://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.ht...
Study said:
Prayers offered by strangers had no effect on the recovery of people who were undergoing heart surgery, a large and long-awaited study has found.
And patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate of post-operative complications like abnormal heart rhythms, perhaps because of the expectations the prayers created
And patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate of post-operative complications like abnormal heart rhythms, perhaps because of the expectations the prayers created
ksjmorgan said:
alock said:
jmorgan said:
Stick a web cam on the chair
Everyone knows that nothing will be recorded. The explanation will be that the ghost has stopped doing what it used to do, rather than accepting that they made a mistake.This is the real problem. People are very reluctant to accept their own failures in remembering or analysing something accurately.
The same thing happening every day can't just be a trick of the mind like an isolated incident of door slamming of stair stomping etc etc It was merely an example of something odd that formed a pattern that couldn't be reasonably explained, that doesn't = ghost in my book but it is paranormal which is what the OP asked for
I personally believe there's something in it. It's not a headless horseman thing or Ghostbusters glammed up, it's just something we aren't tuned into any more 99.9% of the time. Deriding the ghoulies and ghosties idea is a juvenile approach, and science won't help either way. As I have said there are too many people who have had experiences to discount it.
Ask a group of people and several will have had something happen, plus others who won't want to admit as it's a personal thing.
Ask a group of people and several will have had something happen, plus others who won't want to admit as it's a personal thing.
jmorgan said:
Missed that. Apologies. But multiple occurrences, plenty of time to document, I would have. I would have stayed up all night to see it happen but then that is me.
No need to stay up at night it was during the day when the house was empty. I just didn't care enough to do anything, it's not exactly terrifying is it having to tuck a chair back in I just can't explain it. It's so mundane that I'm not sure it really piqued my curiosity as a lazy adolescent enough to start setting up cameras. This was over 15 years ago, now I'd just stick the GoPro in there and wait for Casper to show up.I do like the way out of all the experiences mentioned in the thread the people who seek to ridicule any experience that cannot be immediately explained latched onto the most boring of all of them, a moving chair. The experience which can be most easily explained away too. I don't expect anyone to believe in ghosts but to not believe that there are still things that happen that are beyond our comprehension is odd to me, we don't know everything.
djc206 said:
Rollin said:
You forgot that you or someone else moved the chair. It's either that or the entirety of humanity's scientific endeavours have been in vain. Which do you reckon?
bks. Got to the point where out of curiosity we'd ensure the chair was tucked in and right enough it had moved when we got back. No tricks or forgetfulness.It can probably be explained by science, it was a metal chair so small localised magnetic field caused by a buried object combined with an imperceptible incline in the tiled floor perhaps? To argue that everything you can't explain is a ghost would be ridiculous equally to argue that it's made up bulls
t is equally unscientific. In Death Valley rocks up to 600lbs move and leave trails, for years no one could figure it out, there's a theory now that they're moved by ice. It was considered paranormal now we've got an explanation for it, that's how science works. I don't think a ghost moved that chair I said that in my earlier post but at the same time I can't explain it satisfactorily someone else may be able to.
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