Paranormal experiences
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Hainey said:
Rollin said:
James Randi would have given you $1000000 for your moving chair and you couldn't be bothered with it?
No he wouldn't. Common myth. The goal post for that particular prize have been changed almost continuously since it's much publicised inception.
Rollin said:
Hainey said:
Rollin said:
James Randi would have given you $1000000 for your moving chair and you couldn't be bothered with it?
No he wouldn't. Common myth. The goal post for that particular prize have been changed almost continuously since it's much publicised inception.The threads done well this time to keep as many of those quiet as usually chime in.
Rollin said:
djc206 said:
Rollin said:
You forgot that you or someone else moved the chair. It's either that or the entirety of humanity's scientific endeavours have been in vain. Which do you reckon?
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ks. Got to the point where out of curiosity we'd ensure the chair was tucked in and right enough it had moved when we got back. No tricks or forgetfulness.It can probably be explained by science, it was a metal chair so small localised magnetic field caused by a buried object combined with an imperceptible incline in the tiled floor perhaps? To argue that everything you can't explain is a ghost would be ridiculous equally to argue that it's made up bulls
t is equally unscientific. In Death Valley rocks up to 600lbs move and leave trails, for years no one could figure it out, there's a theory now that they're moved by ice. It was considered paranormal now we've got an explanation for it, that's how science works. I don't think a ghost moved that chair I said that in my earlier post but at the same time I can't explain it satisfactorily someone else may be able to.
Humans began to move from hunter gatherers to living in a fixed place when we began to develop early agricultre, about 10K years ago. At that time we knew very little about anything. Mysteries included reproduction, rainbows, earthquakes, the weather, the seasons, comets, illness, thunder and lightning, etc. We had no answers for any of these. science didn't exist, so in our ignorance we ascribed gods to these events. We made sacrifices to them to influence the outcome.
Since then we've answered all those questions and millions more. We've built space stations and skyscrapers. And not a single answer has involved gods or the supernatural or the paranormal.
There's still much we don't have an answer to, but, as a bookie might say, going on 10K years of form, when and if we ever do answer those questions, the answer will not involve anything paranormal. No ghosts, gods or any other claptrap.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
V6Pushfit said:
I personally believe there's something in it..... it's just something we aren't tuned into any more 99.9% of the time.
Why not? You say "any more" which suggests we used to be tuned into it and then we stopped. When did this de-tuning take place, and what caused it? TwigtheWonderkid said:
Why not? You say "any more" which suggests we used to be tuned into it and then we stopped. When did this de-tuning take place, and what caused it?
Possibly religion and advances in medicine, but probably a recessive gene. It's such a shame we have the 'wooooo I'm a ghost' brigade on here. A closed mind is an ignorant one.
Rollin said:
Hainey said:
Rollin said:
James Randi would have given you $1000000 for your moving chair and you couldn't be bothered with it?
No he wouldn't. Common myth. The goal post for that particular prize have been changed almost continuously since it's much publicised inception.smn159 said:
V6Pushfit said:
smn159 said:
When we stopped burning witches, presumably?
Do you take on new concepts or are you stuck in binary thinking?You?
Yeah I get a bit tried of internet dwellers arrogantly dismissing anything that isn't proven by science, the same science they don't really understand but take on blind faith and the word of their preachers.
Genuine scientists are much more open minded than the layman spouting about atoms, quantum physics, gravity etc. which they simply don't understand but choose to believe that particular story on faith which btw is limited by our intellect, language, life span, perceptions and so on. Inevitably science has used massive short cuts and short hand, a vastly superior intellect would have a very different understanding of our universe which, for me, means I take our currently understanding as no more than a work in early progress, not the final conclusion or only way to look at things.
Genuine scientists are much more open minded than the layman spouting about atoms, quantum physics, gravity etc. which they simply don't understand but choose to believe that particular story on faith which btw is limited by our intellect, language, life span, perceptions and so on. Inevitably science has used massive short cuts and short hand, a vastly superior intellect would have a very different understanding of our universe which, for me, means I take our currently understanding as no more than a work in early progress, not the final conclusion or only way to look at things.
V6Pushfit said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Why not? You say "any more" which suggests we used to be tuned into it and then we stopped. When did this de-tuning take place, and what caused it?
Possibly religion and advances in medicine, but probably a recessive gene. It's such a shame we have the 'wooooo I'm a ghost' brigade on here. A closed mind is an ignorant one.
Basically, you've adopted a belief based on bad science and no evidence, and others that question its validity have a "closed mind".
The sign of a closed mind is people refusing to accept stuff despite the evidence, not rejecting stuff due to lack of evidence.
Jaroon said:
Yeah I get a bit tried of internet dwellers arrogantly dismissing anything that isn't proven by science, the same science they don't really understand but take on blind faith and the word of their preachers.
Genuine scientists are much more open minded than the layman spouting about atoms, quantum physics, gravity etc. which they simply don't understand but choose to believe that particular story on faith which btw is limited by our intellect, language, life span, perceptions and so on. Inevitably science has used massive short cuts and short hand, a vastly superior intellect would have a very different understanding of our universe which, for me, means I take our currently understanding as no more than a work in early progress, not the final conclusion or only way to look at things.
2016....and this is the level of understanding of the scientific method. How utterly depressing. Genuine scientists are much more open minded than the layman spouting about atoms, quantum physics, gravity etc. which they simply don't understand but choose to believe that particular story on faith which btw is limited by our intellect, language, life span, perceptions and so on. Inevitably science has used massive short cuts and short hand, a vastly superior intellect would have a very different understanding of our universe which, for me, means I take our currently understanding as no more than a work in early progress, not the final conclusion or only way to look at things.
The cleaners at the office do a lot of private houses. They say they're used to vacuums being switched off at the plug in some houses, often repeatedly. Doesn't bother them it's just annoying.
I must say I lost a cleaner at home - my son came home to her outside shouting and the other cleaner came out to see what the problem was. Apparently her hair was 'wafted' and touched so I got a phone call that evening saying they weren't coming again. I didn't believe them they were rank anyway, apart from the fact they said it happened on the landing which is the place that I heard footsteps at night three nights in a row so moved bedrooms about 4 years previous to get further away.
I must say I lost a cleaner at home - my son came home to her outside shouting and the other cleaner came out to see what the problem was. Apparently her hair was 'wafted' and touched so I got a phone call that evening saying they weren't coming again. I didn't believe them they were rank anyway, apart from the fact they said it happened on the landing which is the place that I heard footsteps at night three nights in a row so moved bedrooms about 4 years previous to get further away.
Years ago my flatmate came home drunk. When he woke up several hours later he discovered that there was piss all over his clothes. Well the flat was in an old house, probably built over an Indian burial ground and no-one could explain the now rank condition of his shirts. The only possible explanation was that a poltergeist had turned up in the night and pissed in his wardrobe.
Only his closed minded girlfriend suggested otherwise.
Am I doing this right?
Only his closed minded girlfriend suggested otherwise.
Am I doing this right?
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