Paranormal experiences

[Einion Yrth]

boobles said:

The doubters are to scared it would appear. All they want to do is laugh at such suggestions because they wouldn't want anything "unexplained" happening to them! That way they would have to think twice about laughing at others...

Or perhaps they've got better things to do with their time?

[Bill]

We tried it a few times at school (in an old building with a reputation for ghosts). Nothing. Maybe the devil is scared of giggling schoolboys?

[Sheets Tabuer]

boobles said:

To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens

Done countless, with groups or on my own. Nothing ever happened, am I doing it wrong?

[TheBALDpuma]

My OH claims to have seen a ghost a couple of years ago.

She is a veterinary nurse, and her old practice was an old converted end terrace house. The kennels and OPs rooms were in the basement. She went into work one day and went downstairs to check on the animals and there was a work experience girl in the next room going through some bits. The OH can be a bit antisocial, especially in the mornings and couldn't be bothered with making small talk so doesn't engage.

A few hours later and she's not seen the work experience girl since the morning, so she asks her boss where she is and how long she'll be at the practice... The boss told her there was no work experience girl at all. She's an atheist, pessimist realistic girl with a degree, professional job and no fanatical beliefs. She doesn't think about or discuss ghosts regularly so isn't a "believer". A possible explanation is that someone had snuck in to steal medicine but they'd have to have walked straight past nurses and receptionists on their way in and out, not got spooked by MrsPUMA walking past them and working in the next room, and they didn't take anything (stock check was done as they were concerned this might have happened!)

[jmorgan]

Einion Yrth said:

boobles said:

The doubters are to scared it would appear. All they want to do is laugh at such suggestions because they wouldn't want anything "unexplained" happening to them! That way they would have to think twice about laughing at others...

Or perhaps they've got better things to do with their time?

Thing is, the reason why it does what it does is understood. No spirits are required. The way to test it for the fervent believers is there. The believers say it is true, so prove it, that is rather than blindly accept that the spirit world is coming for you, try a few things that remove the ideomotor effect and see what you are left with. A rather dull evening with your sleepover chums.

[boobles]

Einion Yrth said:

boobles said:

The doubters are to scared it would appear. All they want to do is laugh at such suggestions because they wouldn't want anything "unexplained" happening to them! That way they would have to think twice about laughing at others...

Or perhaps they've got better things to do with their time?

Like continuously ridiculing people on here?

[Einion Yrth]

boobles said:

Einion Yrth said:

boobles said:

The doubters are to scared it would appear. All they want to do is laugh at such suggestions because they wouldn't want anything "unexplained" happening to them! That way they would have to think twice about laughing at others...

Or perhaps they've got better things to do with their time?

Like continuously ridiculing people on here?

Putting together a post that implies, or flat out says, that some here are gullible loons takes seconds; getting a bunch of people together, creating or buying a ouija board and planchette and sitting in awe struck fear while very little happens, takes rather longer.

[boobles]

Einion Yrth said:

Putting together a post that implies, or flat out says, that some here are gullible loons takes seconds; getting a bunch of people together, creating or buying a ouija board and planchette and sitting in awe struck fear while very little happens, takes rather longer.

So people who have had "experiences" are gullible loons? Thanks for that! Nice to know that because my sister cant explain why somebody she had just met told her something about her dead brother who by the way was killed at the age of 2, makes her a gullible loon... Thank you hope you are proud!

[Einion Yrth]

boobles said:

Einion Yrth said:

Putting together a post that implies, or flat out says, that some here are gullible loons takes seconds; getting a bunch of people together, creating or buying a ouija board and planchette and sitting in awe struck fear while very little happens, takes rather longer.

So people who have had "experiences" are gullible loons? Thanks for that! Nice to know that because my sister cant explain why somebody she had just met told her something about her dead brother who by the way was killed at the age of 2, makes her a gullible loon... Thank you hope you are proud!

Having suffered a family tragedy doesn't make anyone more or less gullible, attempting to shame people into submission is pretty low on the tactics front too; not that it'll work with me anyway, I see straight through it, rather in the way I see through the endless claims of "the paranormal".

[boobles]

Einion Yrth said:

boobles said:

Einion Yrth said:

Putting together a post that implies, or flat out says, that some here are gullible loons takes seconds; getting a bunch of people together, creating or buying a ouija board and planchette and sitting in awe struck fear while very little happens, takes rather longer.

So people who have had "experiences" are gullible loons? Thanks for that! Nice to know that because my sister cant explain why somebody she had just met told her something about her dead brother who by the way was killed at the age of 2, makes her a gullible loon... Thank you hope you are proud!

Having suffered a family tragedy doesn't make anyone more or less gullible, attempting to shame people into submission is pretty low on the tactics front too; not that it'll work with me anyway, I see straight through it, rather in the way I see through the endless claims of "the paranormal".

Not trying to get you to submit anything, just trying to get you to understand that people ARE NOT gullible loons just because they have had something happen to them that can't logically be proved! Either way it doesn't make people stupid as you are claiming.

Is Stephen Hawking stupid because of his thoughts & beliefs?

[TwigtheWonderkid]

boobles said:

Is Stephen Hawking stupid because of his thoughts & beliefs?

He would be if he said "I can't explain how this happens, therefore it must be paranormal."

But I don't think he ever has, because he's not stupid.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

boobles said:

Not trying to get you to submit anything, just trying to get you to understand that people ARE NOT gullible loons just because they have had something happen to them that can't logically be proved! Either way it doesn't make people stupid as you are claiming.

They are gullible loons not because something has happened to them that they can't explain. They are gullible loons for not leaving it at that, an unexplained event. When you go on to explain it away with woo, that's the gullible loon bit.

[blinkythefish]

BigLion said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Robbo 27 said:

boobles said:

To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens

The brother of a friend of mine tried a ouija board at 16 years old. He went completey insane and has remained so for over 40 years.

My personal view is that they should be destroyed, but its your call.

Yep, tried one too in my late teens, never again. It ended in seeing a glass moving quickly around the board with no fingers on it ,scared the crap out of me for sure. Likewise a friend also there, who ran out of the garage and straight in to a closed patio door.

So, what did the spirit from the beyond say?

"Watch out for that patio door!"

[boobles]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

boobles said:

Not trying to get you to submit anything, just trying to get you to understand that people ARE NOT gullible loons just because they have had something happen to them that can't logically be proved! Either way it doesn't make people stupid as you are claiming.

They are gullible loons not because something has happened to them that they can't explain. They are gullible loons for not leaving it at that, an unexplained event. When you go on to explain it away with woo, that's the gullible loon bit.

Ok, we have established that anyone who has had something happen to them "paranormal" is a gullible loon. Can we now have this thread back & hopefully all the trolls can go away. Look up the word troll by the way, it describes a lot of you on here!

[shakotan]

boobles said:

To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens

Nothing?

[djc206]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

boobles said:

Is Stephen Hawking stupid because of his thoughts & beliefs?

He would be if he said "I can't explain how this happens, therefore it must be paranormal."

But I don't think he ever has, because he's not stupid.

I think there's a huge hangup over the word paranormal here. People in this thread seem to think it implies ghosts or talking to dead people, nope, it simply means beyond normal. A layman will use the word paranormal to describe an experience that they cannot explain away. A scientist would come along and try within current understanding to come up with an explanation, if they fail the incident remains paranormal to the layman. A lot of people who refuse to accept that everything doesn't currently have an explanation would write it off as hokum which is a tad bizarre because there's a lot we don't understand about our universe and more importantly the human mind.

I would suggest that if multiple individuals without reference to each other report experiencing something 'paranormal' in the same place then it's not a case of them all being lunatics there's something that requires explanation and I don't doubt that there is some perfectly scientific explanation.

Anyway all this talk of science and the paranormal has me wanting to watch Interstellar again.

[condor]

I've had lots of paranormal experiences - mostly as a consequence of people dying that I've been related/close to. These experiences usually take the form of a 'winged being' acting out of character.

[shakotan]

condor said:

I've had lots of paranormal experiences - mostly as a consequence of people dying that I've been related/close to. These experiences usually take the form of a 'winged being' acting out of character.

What character do 'winged beings' normally act to, in order to identify when they're acting out of it?

[boobles]

shakotan said:

boobles said:

To all the haters out there, I say try a Ouija board & try taking it seriously to see what happens

Nothing?

Have you tried it then?

[TwigtheWonderkid]

djc206 said:

A layman will use the word paranormal to describe an experience that they cannot explain away.

I don't agree. An event you can't explain away would be described by a layman (such as myself) as odd or bizarre.

When people use the word paranormal, they are ascribing a supernatural element to it. That may not be the literal meaning, but I think that's what people mean when they talk about the paranormal.