Paranormal experiences
Discussion
I'm a bit more skeptical than a believer, but I'm open to any suggestion.
I agree that there are things that science can't explain yet, and spirituality fills this hole for some. I prefer 'unexplained' to 'paranormal'.
on the back of this thread, I had a trawl through the net for examples and there are some seriously weird things out there.
Carlisle Hotel, Australia. - some very weird footage
the footage from the WIngate hotel
Barmby place.
the gettysburg footage
now, it could simply be edited videos. CGI is a wonderful thing, but some of it is a bit harder to explain.
lets keep the conversation civil and open minded, as stated earlier, some of the stories on here are interesting and shouldnt be shouted down.
I agree that there are things that science can't explain yet, and spirituality fills this hole for some. I prefer 'unexplained' to 'paranormal'.
on the back of this thread, I had a trawl through the net for examples and there are some seriously weird things out there.
Carlisle Hotel, Australia. - some very weird footage
the footage from the WIngate hotel
Barmby place.
the gettysburg footage
now, it could simply be edited videos. CGI is a wonderful thing, but some of it is a bit harder to explain.
lets keep the conversation civil and open minded, as stated earlier, some of the stories on here are interesting and shouldnt be shouted down.
I hold religion, mediums and the Daily Mail in the same regard...all play on the fear and insecurities of the weak IMHO. However, I have had a couple of experiences which I can't explain, one is so "meh" it's probably not worth mentioning, the other was very personal, very strange, and somehow very comforting.
About 10 years ago, my I got a great birthday present from my stepdad, a Leatherman Charge. I'm a tinkering sort of person, and as I am always playing with cars and sailing boats, it was hugely useful and I still have it today. It has a screwdriver "socket" where you can remove a double ended screwdriver bit, and replace it with a torx bit, allen key etc. However the most useful bit had a flat head srewdriver on one end and a posi on the other which gets used 90% of the time.
Fast forward two years. My stepdad, bless him, has been taken by that sodding awful disease cancer, and my mum is slowly putting her world back together and sorting out his stuff. One item is a modestly sized sailing yacht, which he had as a project down on the south coast (they lived nearby, I live in the Midlands). He was an engineer and was a stickler for doing things properly, and had done a lot of "under the skin" work which meant that although she still looked a bit ropey and unloved and a bit green having been ashore in the corner of a boatyard for many years, a lot of the non-cosmetic stuff had been done. Sadly he'd never finished her so never got a chance to sail her, and mum offered the boat to me before she sold her for whatever she could get for her as an "unfinished project". I'd had a busy summer of doing lots of dinghy sailing regattas, during one of which, very annoyingly, I'd lost that most useful bit from my Leatherman. Anyway, on the way back from one of those events, I'd dropped into the boatyard one afternoon to look at her (bearing in mind I'd not seen the boat for many years) to see what needed doing.
There was a lot to do, and over the coming weeks I'd mulled it over and over in my mind. On the one side, having a "proper" boat was a dream of mine, I really wanted to finish what my stepdad started, and it was very tempting. On the other side, there was a lot of work to do, (although with redundancy I suddenly had about 6 weeks to kill), money needed to be spent, and the boat was hardly on my doorstep. It was an agonizing decision.
I mulled over this for weeks, and one day I was in the car, just pulling out of an oblique junction near my house. As usual, I was just thinking about the boat, and as I looked to my left to see if it was clear to pull out, I muttered under my breath "it would be daft, I probably don't even have all the tools I need to finish her..." right at the exact moment that I saw, lying right in the middle of the passenger seat of my car, the missing Leatherman bit.
I pulled over somewhere safe and had a bit of a moment, and picked the thing up with shaking hands. I was obviously all over the place for a moment, but then had a huge feeling of calm and wellbeing, like a big duvet had jut been draped over me. Well, I guess that was decision made then.
OK, so looking back now, the obviously scientific explantion is "it was there all along" or "wedged in a gap in the seat" but the timing is just bizarre, and yeah, perhaps in this instance I do like to think there's a bit more to it than that. But the bit had been missing for weeks, many people had sat on the seat, and I'm sure that most PHers will concur that driving in a PH stylee does not lend itself well to small items staying put on passenger seats for weeks at a time. Really, really weird.
Fast forward another few weeks and I am living on the boat, ashore, getting her sorted out and ready to go back in the water. Just by the nature of living, and working in a confined space, everything is always a mess, and many times I have that "oh FFS, where are those wire strippers (or similar), they can't be that far away!" And then on one occasion, 20 minutes later out of sheer desperation I said to my stepdad "any ideas?" and guess what, I find the wire strippers were on the table right behind me 10 seconds later. Same calm, positive feeling again. Sounds stupid I know, but I then used that little trick a good few times when I'd literally turned the place upside down looking for something and it would always show up within seconds.
So there we go. Send in the white coats if you want, I'm sure there's a scientific explanation, but personally I just like to think that an engineer just wanted to help get their project boat finished and finally sailing again.
About 10 years ago, my I got a great birthday present from my stepdad, a Leatherman Charge. I'm a tinkering sort of person, and as I am always playing with cars and sailing boats, it was hugely useful and I still have it today. It has a screwdriver "socket" where you can remove a double ended screwdriver bit, and replace it with a torx bit, allen key etc. However the most useful bit had a flat head srewdriver on one end and a posi on the other which gets used 90% of the time.
Fast forward two years. My stepdad, bless him, has been taken by that sodding awful disease cancer, and my mum is slowly putting her world back together and sorting out his stuff. One item is a modestly sized sailing yacht, which he had as a project down on the south coast (they lived nearby, I live in the Midlands). He was an engineer and was a stickler for doing things properly, and had done a lot of "under the skin" work which meant that although she still looked a bit ropey and unloved and a bit green having been ashore in the corner of a boatyard for many years, a lot of the non-cosmetic stuff had been done. Sadly he'd never finished her so never got a chance to sail her, and mum offered the boat to me before she sold her for whatever she could get for her as an "unfinished project". I'd had a busy summer of doing lots of dinghy sailing regattas, during one of which, very annoyingly, I'd lost that most useful bit from my Leatherman. Anyway, on the way back from one of those events, I'd dropped into the boatyard one afternoon to look at her (bearing in mind I'd not seen the boat for many years) to see what needed doing.
There was a lot to do, and over the coming weeks I'd mulled it over and over in my mind. On the one side, having a "proper" boat was a dream of mine, I really wanted to finish what my stepdad started, and it was very tempting. On the other side, there was a lot of work to do, (although with redundancy I suddenly had about 6 weeks to kill), money needed to be spent, and the boat was hardly on my doorstep. It was an agonizing decision.
I mulled over this for weeks, and one day I was in the car, just pulling out of an oblique junction near my house. As usual, I was just thinking about the boat, and as I looked to my left to see if it was clear to pull out, I muttered under my breath "it would be daft, I probably don't even have all the tools I need to finish her..." right at the exact moment that I saw, lying right in the middle of the passenger seat of my car, the missing Leatherman bit.
I pulled over somewhere safe and had a bit of a moment, and picked the thing up with shaking hands. I was obviously all over the place for a moment, but then had a huge feeling of calm and wellbeing, like a big duvet had jut been draped over me. Well, I guess that was decision made then.
OK, so looking back now, the obviously scientific explantion is "it was there all along" or "wedged in a gap in the seat" but the timing is just bizarre, and yeah, perhaps in this instance I do like to think there's a bit more to it than that. But the bit had been missing for weeks, many people had sat on the seat, and I'm sure that most PHers will concur that driving in a PH stylee does not lend itself well to small items staying put on passenger seats for weeks at a time. Really, really weird.
Fast forward another few weeks and I am living on the boat, ashore, getting her sorted out and ready to go back in the water. Just by the nature of living, and working in a confined space, everything is always a mess, and many times I have that "oh FFS, where are those wire strippers (or similar), they can't be that far away!" And then on one occasion, 20 minutes later out of sheer desperation I said to my stepdad "any ideas?" and guess what, I find the wire strippers were on the table right behind me 10 seconds later. Same calm, positive feeling again. Sounds stupid I know, but I then used that little trick a good few times when I'd literally turned the place upside down looking for something and it would always show up within seconds.
So there we go. Send in the white coats if you want, I'm sure there's a scientific explanation, but personally I just like to think that an engineer just wanted to help get their project boat finished and finally sailing again.
Edited by Hard-Drive on Wednesday 7th December 08:58
condor said:
Tales of butterflies, robins, blackbirds or even feathers falling - making an unexpected or repeated appearance after the death of a partner/parent/child have been told to me.
Ahh I just knew feathers would make an appearance on here sooner or later. White feathers usually, are the new thing. Fluttering down at the graveside...it's a sign.It sure is a sign, a sign of the increasing number of bloody seagulls and magpies. No doubt the graveyard isn't far from the nearest tip, where there are millions of the buggers. You'd think sub Saharan Africa would be bloody knee deep in feathers, given the mortality rate, but strangely not.
Jaroon said:
As mentioned science is just another belief system,
This statement is exactly why threads like this need to be challenged. The biggest threat to mankind today is people believing s
t that isn't true. Because from that comes evolution deniers, religion, religious fundamentalism, homeopathy, and all the other bks that stops progress and drags us backwards.When grown adults seriously think science is just another belief system, you are laying the foundations for nutcases flying jets into skyscrapers.
It's just an extension of the same idiocy.
V6Pushfit said:
Much of the human brain is not used for anything we understand. There could be remnants of previous times in there where these occurrences and experiences were everyday.
You just don't know. Nobody knows yet.
Wrong. We absolutely do know. This is akin to the regressive gene / lost ability tripe. It's entirely inconsistent with genetics and biological evolution, which we know for a fact to be correct. You just don't know. Nobody knows yet.
Whilst some scientific understanding does change, some things we know are fact. The Earth isn't flat and will never be found to be so. The Earth goes around the sun, not visa versa. No one is ever going to discover this isn't true. Evolution is fact. It won't be overturned. And your "belief" is just plain wrong.
I had a look at these things as well...
What I've seen is an out-of-focus hair waving around in front of a camera, what's possibly a rat in a drinks cabinet and a member of staff push something over without realising she even touched it.
Looks like someone has overlaid a recording of their 2-way radios over the CCTV footage. Why do you therefore hear the screams at the same time that someone on the other end is speaking? Something is faked.
I see an old CCTV system that has tracking problems and I'd be 99% sure they re-use the same tapes again and again. Why should a poorly calibrated tape head perfectly obliterate any previous footage?
There's someone in the woods. Have you seen what happened recently when the media started reporting about people dressing up as clowns? Lots of other people dress up as clowns purely to annoy/scare them.
It annoys me when people say I'm not open minded by being critical about things like the above. You have to ask yourself the question, what is more likely, that you have made a mistake or our entire understanding of the physical world has a major gap in it? There might be a gap, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Physicists have a very good understanding of electromagnetic waves. We can stream huge quantities of data with perfect accuracy around the world at the speed of light. We can pack over a billion transistors into something a few hundred square millimeters in area. You wouldn't be using a computer if we couldn't do these things. And yet people think there is an entire subset of the electromagnetic spectrum we are unaware of. Either that, or their is a whole other set of forces/waves/particles that just so happen to interact with photographic film, CCD sensors, CMOS sensors and the human eye in exactly the same way as electromagnetic waves.
Captain Benzo said:
Carlisle Hotel, Australia. - some very weird footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLAOet1a_54What I've seen is an out-of-focus hair waving around in front of a camera, what's possibly a rat in a drinks cabinet and a member of staff push something over without realising she even touched it.
Captain Benzo said:
the footage from the WIngate hotel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2D5iCUOxI4Looks like someone has overlaid a recording of their 2-way radios over the CCTV footage. Why do you therefore hear the screams at the same time that someone on the other end is speaking? Something is faked.
Captain Benzo said:
Barmby place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4obOOc9B4I see an old CCTV system that has tracking problems and I'd be 99% sure they re-use the same tapes again and again. Why should a poorly calibrated tape head perfectly obliterate any previous footage?
Captain Benzo said:
the gettysburg footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xlyofmznOsThere's someone in the woods. Have you seen what happened recently when the media started reporting about people dressing up as clowns? Lots of other people dress up as clowns purely to annoy/scare them.
It annoys me when people say I'm not open minded by being critical about things like the above. You have to ask yourself the question, what is more likely, that you have made a mistake or our entire understanding of the physical world has a major gap in it? There might be a gap, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Physicists have a very good understanding of electromagnetic waves. We can stream huge quantities of data with perfect accuracy around the world at the speed of light. We can pack over a billion transistors into something a few hundred square millimeters in area. You wouldn't be using a computer if we couldn't do these things. And yet people think there is an entire subset of the electromagnetic spectrum we are unaware of. Either that, or their is a whole other set of forces/waves/particles that just so happen to interact with photographic film, CCD sensors, CMOS sensors and the human eye in exactly the same way as electromagnetic waves.
Edited by alock on Wednesday 7th December 09:44
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Wrong. We absolutely do know. This is akin to the regressive gene / lost ability tripe. It's entirely inconsistent with genetics and biological evolution, which we know for a fact to be correct.
Whilst some scientific understanding does change, some things we know are fact. The Earth isn't flat and will never be found to be so. The Earth goes around the sun, not visa versa. No one is ever going to discover this isn't true. Evolution is fact. It won't be overturned. And your "belief" is just plain wrong.
Would you mind just pissing off to another thread to let people give their own personal experiences here without being ridiculed by you.Whilst some scientific understanding does change, some things we know are fact. The Earth isn't flat and will never be found to be so. The Earth goes around the sun, not visa versa. No one is ever going to discover this isn't true. Evolution is fact. It won't be overturned. And your "belief" is just plain wrong.
V6Pushfit said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Wrong. We absolutely do know. This is akin to the regressive gene / lost ability tripe. It's entirely inconsistent with genetics and biological evolution, which we know for a fact to be correct.
Whilst some scientific understanding does change, some things we know are fact. The Earth isn't flat and will never be found to be so. The Earth goes around the sun, not visa versa. No one is ever going to discover this isn't true. Evolution is fact. It won't be overturned. And your "belief" is just plain wrong.
Would you mind just pissing off to another thread to let people give their own personal experiences here without being ridiculed by you.Whilst some scientific understanding does change, some things we know are fact. The Earth isn't flat and will never be found to be so. The Earth goes around the sun, not visa versa. No one is ever going to discover this isn't true. Evolution is fact. It won't be overturned. And your "belief" is just plain wrong.
And yes I would mind. Who made you the internet police?
I have always found these ones pretty interesting. The first one has already been mentioned on here but the rest havn't. Oh & ignore the annoying voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLMYMi0N8YA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLMYMi0N8YA
V6Pushfit said:
Go and find another thread to disagree with and piss them off there, or sit quietly in class and let people give their accounts without carping on every few minutes that you think its all crap we've heard it already so you've got no more to say.
You really are very closed minded. I'm offering you definitive proof that if nothing else, your "lost ability gene" idea is wrong, but you just don't want to hear it. You believe what you believe, and you aren't going to let facts get in the way.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
You really are very closed minded. I'm offering you definitive proof that if nothing else, your "lost ability gene" idea is wrong, but you just don't want to hear it.
You believe what you believe, and you aren't going to let facts get in the way.
Suits me.You believe what you believe, and you aren't going to let facts get in the way.
Right so we can move on
Anyone else had an unexplained experience?
Right, I'll say now that I'm a sceptical person. I don't believe in God or anything else however I would be willing to change my mind given sufficient evidence.
My wife's family are more of the something unexpected happened = Ghosts. Her Aunt in particular is quite superstitious.
One of the things used as evidence by my wife and her aunt of the unexplained is her aunts grandfather passing away.
After the funeral, during the wake in the aunts house a grandfather clock that had been given to her by the deceased some years previously suddenly started working.
This was taken to be a sign from beyond that all was well.
Now this is where I find that I'm wired up differently from them.
Both of them say that unexplained must be supernatural, which to me seems to be a hell of a jump missing out several other options like the increased amount of people in the house, different temperatures or the possibility that someone wound the clock and didn't mention it.
Another example was my own grandfather passing away. He died a few years after my grandmother at the age of 95 in a hospital bed after becoming weakened by infections and slipping into a coma. He was given the drugs that would ensure a quiet and peaceful end.
He was a strong man, an ex lorry driver with more sceptical views than myself when faced with the unknown.
My uncles and aunt (another one) had gone to another room to get a coffee while I stayed at the bedside. I heard his breathing change as the drugs took hold and quickly walked to the other room to get mu uncles. When I got to the door my aunts back was to me so I waved them through. I didn't say anything, just waved.
At the bedside my aunt explained that she knew when to come through because my grandmother had appeared and told her it was time. She obviously hadn't seen me so had come to a supernatural conclusion.
The difference in belief and science is that science can be tested to see is X=Y where with belief you accept it on faith.
Science will be proved to be wrong a lot over the years as understanding grows about things and new discoveries are made, that is the nature of it. But in each case a theory is created from the available evidence, and then proven or disproven. As more evidence becomes available the theories change.
I can't show you electrons moving through wires to power your computer, but I can show you repeatable results. My lack of faith is because in a lot of cases people have gone straight from X-Y without any proof that Y is the answer or even looking for other answers.
My wife's family are more of the something unexpected happened = Ghosts. Her Aunt in particular is quite superstitious.
One of the things used as evidence by my wife and her aunt of the unexplained is her aunts grandfather passing away.
After the funeral, during the wake in the aunts house a grandfather clock that had been given to her by the deceased some years previously suddenly started working.
This was taken to be a sign from beyond that all was well.
Now this is where I find that I'm wired up differently from them.
Both of them say that unexplained must be supernatural, which to me seems to be a hell of a jump missing out several other options like the increased amount of people in the house, different temperatures or the possibility that someone wound the clock and didn't mention it.
Another example was my own grandfather passing away. He died a few years after my grandmother at the age of 95 in a hospital bed after becoming weakened by infections and slipping into a coma. He was given the drugs that would ensure a quiet and peaceful end.
He was a strong man, an ex lorry driver with more sceptical views than myself when faced with the unknown.
My uncles and aunt (another one) had gone to another room to get a coffee while I stayed at the bedside. I heard his breathing change as the drugs took hold and quickly walked to the other room to get mu uncles. When I got to the door my aunts back was to me so I waved them through. I didn't say anything, just waved.
At the bedside my aunt explained that she knew when to come through because my grandmother had appeared and told her it was time. She obviously hadn't seen me so had come to a supernatural conclusion.
The difference in belief and science is that science can be tested to see is X=Y where with belief you accept it on faith.
Science will be proved to be wrong a lot over the years as understanding grows about things and new discoveries are made, that is the nature of it. But in each case a theory is created from the available evidence, and then proven or disproven. As more evidence becomes available the theories change.
I can't show you electrons moving through wires to power your computer, but I can show you repeatable results. My lack of faith is because in a lot of cases people have gone straight from X-Y without any proof that Y is the answer or even looking for other answers.
Speed addicted said:
Right, I'll say now that I'm a sceptical person. I don't believe in God or anything else however I would be willing to change my mind given sufficient evidence.
My wife's family are more of the something unexpected happened = Ghosts. Her Aunt in particular is quite superstitious.
One of the things used as evidence by my wife and her aunt of the unexplained is her aunts grandfather passing away.
After the funeral, during the wake in the aunts house a grandfather clock that had been given to her by the deceased some years previously suddenly started working.
This was taken to be a sign from beyond that all was well.
Now this is where I find that I'm wired up differently from them.
Both of them say that unexplained must be supernatural, which to me seems to be a hell of a jump missing out several other options like the increased amount of people in the house, different temperatures or the possibility that someone wound the clock and didn't mention it.
Another example was my own grandfather passing away. He died a few years after my grandmother at the age of 95 in a hospital bed after becoming weakened by infections and slipping into a coma. He was given the drugs that would ensure a quiet and peaceful end.
He was a strong man, an ex lorry driver with more sceptical views than myself when faced with the unknown.
My uncles and aunt (another one) had gone to another room to get a coffee while I stayed at the bedside. I heard his breathing change as the drugs took hold and quickly walked to the other room to get mu uncles. When I got to the door my aunts back was to me so I waved them through. I didn't say anything, just waved.
At the bedside my aunt explained that she knew when to come through because my grandmother had appeared and told her it was time. She obviously hadn't seen me so had come to a supernatural conclusion.
The difference in belief and science is that science can be tested to see is X=Y where with belief you accept it on faith.
Science will be proved to be wrong a lot over the years as understanding grows about things and new discoveries are made, that is the nature of it. But in each case a theory is created from the available evidence, and then proven or disproven. As more evidence becomes available the theories change.
I can't show you electrons moving through wires to power your computer, but I can show you repeatable results. My lack of faith is because in a lot of cases people have gone straight from X-Y without any proof that Y is the answer or even looking for other answers.
Brilliantly put. Makes the post below look all the more ridiculous. My wife's family are more of the something unexpected happened = Ghosts. Her Aunt in particular is quite superstitious.
One of the things used as evidence by my wife and her aunt of the unexplained is her aunts grandfather passing away.
After the funeral, during the wake in the aunts house a grandfather clock that had been given to her by the deceased some years previously suddenly started working.
This was taken to be a sign from beyond that all was well.
Now this is where I find that I'm wired up differently from them.
Both of them say that unexplained must be supernatural, which to me seems to be a hell of a jump missing out several other options like the increased amount of people in the house, different temperatures or the possibility that someone wound the clock and didn't mention it.
Another example was my own grandfather passing away. He died a few years after my grandmother at the age of 95 in a hospital bed after becoming weakened by infections and slipping into a coma. He was given the drugs that would ensure a quiet and peaceful end.
He was a strong man, an ex lorry driver with more sceptical views than myself when faced with the unknown.
My uncles and aunt (another one) had gone to another room to get a coffee while I stayed at the bedside. I heard his breathing change as the drugs took hold and quickly walked to the other room to get mu uncles. When I got to the door my aunts back was to me so I waved them through. I didn't say anything, just waved.
At the bedside my aunt explained that she knew when to come through because my grandmother had appeared and told her it was time. She obviously hadn't seen me so had come to a supernatural conclusion.
The difference in belief and science is that science can be tested to see is X=Y where with belief you accept it on faith.
Science will be proved to be wrong a lot over the years as understanding grows about things and new discoveries are made, that is the nature of it. But in each case a theory is created from the available evidence, and then proven or disproven. As more evidence becomes available the theories change.
I can't show you electrons moving through wires to power your computer, but I can show you repeatable results. My lack of faith is because in a lot of cases people have gone straight from X-Y without any proof that Y is the answer or even looking for other answers.
V6Pushfit said:
Why wouldn't I think there's a spirit/whatever it's actually a logical conclusion to draw.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Jaroon said:
As mentioned science is just another belief system,
This statement is exactly why threads like this need to be challenged. The biggest threat to mankind today is people believing st that isn't true. Because from that comes evolution deniers, religion, religious fundamentalism, homeopathy, and all the other bks that stops progress and drags us backwards.When grown adults seriously think science is just another belief system, you are laying the foundations for nutcases flying jets into skyscrapers.
It's just an extension of the same idiocy.
Also to suggest and compare my way of thinking with terrorism is histrionic hyperbole, a little pathetic and desperate but I mean that sympathetically, not an attack. You are exactly what you think you are not and exhibit many of the traits you seem to despise, can't be a nice place.
Edited by Jaroon on Wednesday 7th December 12:37
Jaroon said:
Why are you in denial of what is so patently obvious? You don't "know" most of the scientific "facts" you believe are true but you accept the story based on what you feel is a credible explanation that fits your experience, that's all it is mate, you can bleat and wail all you want. What you choose to believe and the method it's derived by, scientific in your case, still requires a degree of "faith." Also I may have "over used" inverted commas in this post but what do you expect from a "nutter."
Sorry but that's just gibberish. Edited by Jaroon on Wednesday 7th December 12:37
Person A 'knows' that science put a man on the moon
Person B 'knows' that dead people are able to communicate with the living.
Neither understand the mechanism behind these things, but your view is that they both believe in them, and that belief requires faith - i.e.belief without evidence - and so both are equally valid positions to take.
Person A however is able to go to the library and get a book on orbital mechanics. He can make the same calculations that put a rocket into orbit and later took it to the moon. He can start to test those calculations by making his own rockets if he has the means. His 'belief' can be demonstrated as fact
Person B goes to the library and finds a number of books on the supernatural, all containing nothing but vague assertions and anecdotes. None of this is repeatable.
Whether you like it or not, dead people contacting the living, if true, has implications for science and that's why there have been many attempts to prove it - but the evidence that it's true just doesn't exist.
Those that choose to believe in this stuff have other reasons than evidence then. Like the religious they usually have superstitious parents; maybe they feel as though they're carrying on some family tradition.
Doesn't mean that anyone else has to take it seriously though.
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