Paranormal experiences

[Boring_Chris]

Speed addicted said:

Boring_Chris said:

Stuff

You were trying to photograph the stars with an iphone?
Assuming you had a decent camera with you why didn't you photograph or record with that, then you could zoom in later on.

It's totally ok not to know what things are, or be able to explain everything. You have one vantage point, from another it could be perfectly obvious.



(If you're having trouble with focus on an slr or similar set the focus ring to infinity then switch off autofocus for stars, you'll need a tripod)

Nah I had the DSLR (which I royally fked up) so tried with the iPhone. The issue with the DSLR was just trying to focus. I apparently couldnt find a bright enough star or street light to focus on... which I've never really struggled with before or since?! But hey, sometimes you just have an off-day.

I had a tripod, too.

[Speed addicted]

Boring_Chris said:

Nah I had the DSLR (which I royally fked up) so tried with the iPhone. The issue with the DSLR was just trying to focus. I apparently couldnt find a bright enough star or street light to focus on... which I've never really struggled with before or since?! But hey, sometimes you just have an off-day.

I had a tripod, too.

In that case just manually focus and switch off auto focus. I've spent way too much time (in a non pornographic way) messing about in the dark with cameras!

[Hainey]

Chris, this was in central Scotland looking north west.

[jmorgan]

^^^^^^
Mirror lockup as well, and a remote release.

But in the dark, your eyes and brain are no good, working out the size of an object, distance and speed are a major ball ache unless your brain has a known thing it can compare with and then that can be iffy. Even a lantern can throw you as can the wind effect on such an object at different levels. Imagine a flying thing coming your way with a light on, it appears to not be moving, then it banks left or right and all of a sudden you have seen something pul off a fantastic manoeuvre. In your mind you have seen it go from zero MPH to lots in an instant.

[Hainey]

jmorgan said:

^^^^^^
Mirror lockup as well, and a remote release.

But in the dark, your eyes and brain are no good, working out the size of an object, distance and speed are a major ball ache unless your brain has a known thing it can compare with and then that can be iffy. Even a lantern can throw you as can the wind effect on such an object at different levels. Imagine a flying thing coming your way with a light on, it appears to not be moving, then it banks left or right and all of a sudden you have seen something pul off a fantastic manoeuvre. In your mind you have seen it go from zero MPH to lots in an instant.

With respect we have been through scenarios such as that and discounted the same. As I said my friend (who makes me feel like the dumb kid for sure when he starts) spent about 6 hours the next day with the A4 pad out going through some options and every one ended up with a 'no' written on the bottom of the page. With your penultimate sentence I agree but as I said, I'm a pilot with a lot of hours behind me so I'm not inexperienced in that illusion. However what we watched covered an immense amount of sky at a pace that was astonishing and it wasn't a repeated vector break illusion.

I really have no idea what it (and then ultimately they) were but it was certainly a curious half hour of my life I'll never forget.

[Halb]

THere is a decent thread in the science! forum on unidentified flying objects.

I've never seen one (I think), but have talked with people who have seen similar to the above.

[Hainey]

Halb said:

THere is a decent thread in the science! forum on unidentified flying objects.

I've never seen one (I think), but have talked with people who have seen similar to the above.

I have several high hours commercial pilots in my social circle and all of them have seen something they struggle to explain in starkly rational terms.

They would each rather lose a digit than speak of them publicly however. I only relate the above as I no longer earn my living from aviation and it's unlikely I shall do again.

Maybe some day some new and amazing piece of kit will be revealed that explains it. Perhaps.

[Jaroon]

Yup I used to be an airline pilot and have seen some great phenomena. St. Elmos Fire, the northern lights and the most majestic meteor shower with low cloud so no light pollution, was just staggering. I've seen several things I couldn't explain but am happy to concede a sharper mind than mine could offer a very reasonable explanation, we were quite tired a lot of the time which has it's own affects of course.

I'm a train driver now and there are some strange tales involving several unfortunate fatalities that my colleagues have experienced but details are a bit disrespectful, a couple very recent. I'm not a great one for paranormal explanations tbh but really can't abide those who dismiss others views and simply try to keep an open mind.

[Hainey]

Jaroon said:

Yup I used to be an airline pilot and have seen some great phenomena. St. Elmos Fire, the northern lights and the most majestic meteor shower with low cloud so no light pollution, was just staggering. I've seen several things I couldn't explain but am happy to concede a sharper mind than mine could offer a very reasonable explanation, we were quite tired a lot of the time which has it's own affects of course.

I'm a train driver now and there are some strange tales involving several unfortunate fatalities that my colleagues have experienced but details are a bit disrespectful, a couple very recent. I'm not a great one for paranormal explanations tbh but really can't abide those who dismiss others views and simply try to keep an open mind.

I think you and I most likely have the same mindset and outlook upon our approach to experiences, and I think you're right not to disclose anything that could be traced back to a particular incident of recent times.

The main reason I am very reluctant to post of other instances I can't explain is the default position of many is to hang a label on you for doing so. I find it disrespectful and not a little childish.

Maybe time to let the thread die until some people either mature enough not to put their counter view across in a manner reminiscent of a spoilt 12 year old, or recognise it was a thread asking for people's experiences and respect that for what it was instead of offering a ridiculous one size fits all 'swamp gas' explanation for anyone's experience.

For me, while I may be sceptical of some things I read I respect that someone is telling of something personal to them and treat that and therefore them with a basic dignity.

[anonymous-user]

Hainey said:

I think you and I most likely have the same mindset and outlook upon our approach to experiences, and I think you're right not to disclose anything that could be traced back to a particular incident of recent times.

The main reason I am very reluctant to post of other instances I can't explain is the default position of many is to hang a label on you for doing so. I find it disrespectful and not a little childish.

Maybe time to let the thread die until some people either mature enough not to put their counter view across in a manner reminiscent of a spoilt 12 year old, or recognise it was a thread asking for people's experiences and respect that for what it was instead of offering a ridiculous one size fits all 'swamp gas' explanation for anyone's experience.

For me, while I may be sceptical of some things I read I respect that someone is telling of something personal to them and treat that and therefore them with a basic dignity.

Totally agreed, but hopefully the Immature have gone now as we've had their views so there's no point in repeating them, so we can get back to the point of the topic and more people can feel that they can post their experiences.

[Baz Tench]

Yes. I have no problem posting my experiences, even though you put yourself in the firing line by doing so.

If people want to snipe, that's up to them. Who's the better person?

[Baz Tench]

ash73 said:

Superstition is unfortunately a natural consequence of the evolution of consciousness, and our senses frequently deceive us. Try to recognise it for what it is and rise above it; that's how to be a better person. I posted a video about that a few pages back and nobody bothered watching it, so much for open minds. You're all too busy patting each other on the back.

I'm not superstitious until it literally taps me on the shoulder, lifts me from behind, or blows on me, but I get your point. I will get around to watching that programme (five senses?)

[anonymous-user]

ash73 said:

Superstition is unfortunately a natural consequence of the evolution of consciousness, and our senses frequently deceive us. Try to recognise it for what it is and rise above it; that's how to be a better person. I posted a video about that a few pages back and nobody bothered watching it, so much for open minds. You're all too busy patting each other on the back.

I watched it yesterday as I'm interested in every theory on what I and others have experienced because I'm baffled. It would be great to have an answer. It covers some good ideas but not conclusively in my case.

[Toaster]

Some psychosis cases an 'immune disorder'and other conditions probably explain a lot of paranormal experiences http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38220610

Just think if there had been no advances on psychiatry or understanding the mind there would be far more people saying some one was possessed or had a paranormal experience .....discuss

[boobles]

Where does it mention "paranormal experiences" in that article ?

[Halb]

The original reason I started this thread.
I have had a bit of an update, but still not spoken wit the person who was talked to by a deceased person.

My friend told me the person who was talked at by the member of the ex-vital said something long the lines of, 'you won't believe this, I don't, I think it's all bullst, but person X has just spoke to me.' It shook him up so bad he cancelled his plans for the rest of the day.

[Hainey]

Halb said:

The original reason I started this thread.
I have had a bit of an update, but still not spoken wit the person who was talked to by a deceased person.

My friend told me the person who was talked at by the member of the ex-vital said something long the lines of, 'you won't believe this, I don't, I think it's all bullst, but person X has just spoke to me.' It shook him up so bad he cancelled his plans for the rest of the day.

Yes well it would do that I'd say.

[TheExcession]

ash73 said:

Superstition is unfortunately a natural consequence of the evolution of consciousness, and our senses frequently deceive us. Try to recognise it for what it is and rise above it; that's how to be a better person. I posted a video about that a few pages back and nobody bothered watching it, so much for open minds. You're all too busy patting each other on the back.

I'm on board with you here. I spent a bit of time in Nepal, and there are experiences that I witnessed that I can not explain in any terms that were provided to me by the culture I grew up in, nor by the education I'd had.

They [the experiences] were very easily explained with in their own doctrine - 'their understanding of life' is very different to a typical bloke on an Internet forum.

As for the paranormal aspect, I've witnessed and experienced far too much to rule it out.

[anonymous-user]

At the risk of repetition myself, there's so much we don't understand or has been lost over the centuries.
I know some cultures accept it as you indeed confirm, and they possibly don't fully understand but at least accept. I was in Nepal (or at least Sikkim nearby) myself and one of the party was injured and saw a local man - I would use the word Shamen but not too sure wether that's correct. He identified what was wrong by looking at her and resolved the problem without leaving his sitting position. She recovered immediately and he went on to deal with a long term pre existing issue she had for 6 years, again without leaving his mat and she hasn't had a recurrence in the 8 years since.
Science doesn't touch all of this and would be lost with it. The locals just accept that this chap has powers. I think we have been dulled by modern life here and your average grunt with no understanding beyond his local Aldi and chip shop has no idea of what is actually still out there in the world and probably scared by it.
As far as I can see it's genetic, although one of my neighbours sons is able to see and hear things etc if he tries hard he found it difficult when it first started happening but he suppresses it and there's no known family history there.

Edited by V6Pushfit on Thursday 8th December 18:14

[ReaderScars]

V6Pushfit said:

...one of the party was injured and saw a local man - I would use the word Shamen but not too sure wether that's correct. He identified what was wrong by looking at her and resolved the problem without leaving his sitting position. She recovered immediately and he went on to deal with a long term pre existing issue she had for 6 years, again without leaving his mat and she hasn't had a recurrence in the 8 years since.

Can you imagine how much he could save the NHS for weeding out the frauds? Very interesting experience you've recounted, nonetheless.