Paranormal experiences

[Sheets Tabuer]

I have stage mediums as friends while following James Randi so I have both angles covered

Seriously though I don't get in to discussion with them but I'm confident they believe what they say.

[ClaphamGT3]

I'll give a very personal example.

Thirty odd years ago, my Grandfather was dying. It was a Bitterly cold Sunday in February and we were all at my Grandparents house. My brothers and I needed droPping back at school and my father took us in my Grandfather's car. After he'd dropped us off and on the way home the car broke down. The RAC recovered it and it transpired that the breakdown happened around the time my Grandfather slipped into unconsciousness and died. The next morning, the car started fine.

Was this a) paranormal activity of a car spookily 'dying' at the same moment as its owner, or (b) a seven year old car that hadn't really been used for a couple of months breaking down in really cold weather due to fuel contamination/an electrical glitch?

The answer is obviously (b) but you can see why the more imaginative could convince themselves that it was (a)

[shakotan]

Sheets Tabuer said:

I have stage mediums as friends while following James Randi so I have both angles covered

Seriously though I don't get in to discussion with them but I'm confident they believe what they say.

Therein lies the issue. Just because someone believes something, doesn't make it true. They could just have mental health issues.

(Before the troll accusers jump in, that's a genuine point of view, I'm not deliberately slating people as 'mental' for a reaction)

[Sheets Tabuer]

shakotan said:

Therein lies the issue. Just because someone believes something, doesn't make it true. They could just have mental health issues.

(Before the troll accusers jump in, that's a genuine point of view, I'm not deliberately slating people as 'mental' for a reaction)

I don't think they are mental, I try to avoid the subject as I don't believe it at all and they don't "switch on" while socialising.

I do however see many of the charity evenings they do and fundraising by travelling the country to put on a demonstration, I've spoken to many that have had readings and also see the people thanking them on facebook so don't doubt something is going on, whatever that is and it could be anything it's outside of my comprehension.

Personally I don't believe in it, I've never seen any evidence for it and until casper comes up and gives me a huge wet kiss it's going to stay that way.

[Toaster]

My first thought when I saw this thread was Oh Dear

Its now multiple pages long and I still think Oh Dear

What is this doing on a Science thread, there is no evidence James Randi was mentioned so for those who beleive look here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04ndsb3/stor...

I think this thread should be moved to the 'entertaining arguments' thread.........what that thread doesn't exist......maybe its because there is no afterlife

[smn159]

Tricks that Psychics and Mediums use

https://www.thrillist.com/culture/7-tricks-psychic...

[Wacky Racer]

shakotan said:

Person 1 "Did you see that headless man?"

1 hour 14 minutes in......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6MFFUtWCZI

[anonymous-user]

Explain therefore how when I went to see a guy about back pain he had the palm of his hand stationary a good six inches from me with air in between but my back was being firmly thumb kneaded. Is it:
a) Something we don't understand
or
b) I was drunk/have mental health issues/was drugged/prove it with a video/blah blah

[Toaster]

Thats an easy one:

A) No B) No

So none of the above

C) Auto suggestion its often used in hypnosis and don't run away with the idea someone can hypnotise you they cant, all hypnosis is self hypnosis.

You can sense or feel when something s not there

[smn159]

V6Pushfit said:

Explain therefore how when I went to see a guy about back pain he had the palm of his hand stationary a good six inches from me with air in between but my back was being firmly thumb kneaded. Is it:
a) Something we don't understand
or
b) I was drunk/have mental health issues/was drugged/prove it with a video/blah blah

Maybe worth a read

https://www.newscientist.com/round-up/tactile-illu...

[funkyrobot]

V6Pushfit said:

Explain therefore how when I went to see a guy about back pain he had the palm of his hand stationary a good six inches from me with air in between but my back was being firmly thumb kneaded. Is it:
a) Something we don't understand
or
b) I was drunk/have mental health issues/was drugged/prove it with a video/blah blah

Erm, he wasn't using his hand.

[shakotan]

funkyrobot said:

V6Pushfit said:

Explain therefore how when I went to see a guy about back pain he had the palm of his hand stationary a good six inches from me with air in between but my back was being firmly thumb kneaded. Is it:
a) Something we don't understand
or
b) I was drunk/have mental health issues/was drugged/prove it with a video/blah blah

Erm, he wasn't using his hand.

As the said, "a good six inches"...

[anonymous-user]

I think people on here are scared stless of someting that cant be defined

[jmorgan]

Not scared. Very sceptical, seeing as I can easily con people, I expect it is human misunderstood rather than ability that is not understood.

[funkyrobot]

jmorgan said:

Not scared. Very sceptical, seeing as I can easily con people

You work in IT or used car sales?

[boobles]

shakotan said:

boobles said:

Go away troll's & annoy another thread! That's what you will end up doing once you have managed to get this one locked!

Why must anyone with an opposing point of view on a subject be a troll?

Haven't I posted anything particularly inflammatory or resulted to name-calling or insults?

Oh my apologies! Could have swore blind that somebody earlier had suggested that people can contribute in anyway they so chose to as it's a free forum... I aim it at people who have no interest in this thread other than to ridicule others for having some belief in something that others disagree with. I have no interest in gaming but I wouldn't join a thread specifically for people who like playing computer games to ridicule them. I absolutely get that most people don't believe in certain things just like I don't believe that there is a god but I wouldn't look down on anyone for being religious as it's their beliefs. I just wish that people could just contribute by saying"I don't believe in such things" rather than quoting people & then suggesting they must be mad or something because such things don't happen. Nobody on here knows what others have experienced because you weren't there so why is it so ridiculous to rule something out just because it hasn't happened to you?

Edited by boobles on Friday 2nd December 17:38

Edited by boobles on Friday 2nd December 17:42

[smn159]

boobles said:

I just wish that people could just contribute by saying"I don't believe in such things"

Because that implies that believing in ghosts and not believing in ghosts are equally reasonable positions to take and they clearly aren't. There are rational explanations available for all of the 'experiences' described and zero scientific evidence to support ghosts.

People believe in all sorts of weird st because they want / need to, but don't confuse that with it being a rational position to take.

[jmorgan]

funkyrobot said:

jmorgan said:

Not scared. Very sceptical, seeing as I can easily con people

You work in IT or used car sales?

Both, and an insurance agent and I sell double glazing and do drives.

[ruggedscotty]

Few years ago came through a really tough time, Tough and go and it nearly broke me. I found a good spirit advisor and he helped me to come to terms and advised me on a lot of things, somethings id never considered before and you know I took alot of comfort from those teachings. I still fall back on his words of wisdom from time to time when I need some support and well I like to think that I learned so much from him. I tried to find him again lately as it was around 20 years or so ago, it really was proving difficult, even with the internet and such it was impossible. I just wish i had taken his number or an address back then, I went back to where I met him and found that they had bulldozed the place and built a shopping mall.

I often find myself wondering what happened to those Agnews stores, and I can say some of those specialty polish vodka's worked a treat.

[boobles]

You sure it wasn't whitelightning you were necking back? Vodka, behave! Lol