First to pop off...............2017.

[PowerslideSWE]

mybrainhurts said:

PowerslideSWE said:

mybrainhurts said:

Yes he is. Old duffer's pushing the global warming myth.

Yeah, what could he possibly know about global warming, he has only been documenting nature and wildlife for the last 60 fking years...

You've lost me there. How on earth does that qualify Attenborough to know anything about the (duff) science? Clearly, he doesn't, he's just blindly following the disciples of doom. He's been studying sheep too closely. Probably.

PowerslideSWE said:

It's not a myth, it's fact. What causes it is debatable.. OT, sry...

I assumed you'd know that's what I meant, so I elected to avoid being wordy.

Well, if you will you may enlighten me then. How is this a duff science? Every climatologist (sp?) is pretty much on the same page regarding human emissions into the atmosphere. Hence the race to cut emissions in any way, shape or form possible.

[hidetheelephants]

PowerslideSWE said:

Well, if you will you may enlighten me then. How is this a duff science? Every climatologist (sp?) is pretty much on the same page regarding human emissions into the atmosphere. Hence the race to cut emissions in any way, shape or form possible.

No-one is doing this though; Germany is producing as much CO2 as they did 30 years ago, the UK has collectively expended £100bn on windmills generating the equivalent of 2 Hinkley Cs when the same money would have paid for 4-5 nuclear power stations. Whether the science is correct is moot, no-one is actually trying very hard to cut emissions.

[PowerslideSWE]

hidetheelephants said:

No-one is doing this though; Germany is producing as much CO2 as they did 30 years ago, the UK has collectively expended £100bn on windmills generating the equivalent of 2 Hinkley Cs when the same money would have paid for 4-5 nuclear power stations. Whether the science is correct is moot, no-one is actually trying very hard to cut emissions.

Personally I thing nuclear power in the long run is the only way to go.

[anonymous-user]

PowerslideSWE said:

Personally I thing nuclear power in the long run is the only way to go.

Until some new/better technology comes along, I agree.

[Digger]

Ironically, the longer this thread meanders off-topic, peeps are miraculously no longer popping off. Keep it up chaps.

[majordad]

PowerslideSWE said:

hidetheelephants said:

No-one is doing this though; Germany is producing as much CO2 as they did 30 years ago, the UK has collectively expended £100bn on windmills generating the equivalent of 2 Hinkley Cs when the same money would have paid for 4-5 nuclear power stations. Whether the science is correct is moot, no-one is actually trying very hard to cut emissions.

Personally I think nuclear power in the long run is the only way to go.

It's not correct to say would have paid for 4-5 nuclear stations as you have to include the clean up and recomissioning costs. However, I too would prefer nuclear to those windmills that have become a blot on our rural landscape.

[hidetheelephants]

majordad said:

PowerslideSWE said:

hidetheelephants said:

No-one is doing this though; Germany is producing as much CO2 as they did 30 years ago, the UK has collectively expended £100bn on windmills generating the equivalent of 2 Hinkley Cs when the same money would have paid for 4-5 nuclear power stations. Whether the science is correct is moot, no-one is actually trying very hard to cut emissions.

Personally I think nuclear power in the long run is the only way to go.

It's not correct to say would have paid for 4-5 nuclear stations as you have to include the clean up and recomissioning costs. However, I too would prefer nuclear to those windmills that have become a blot on our rural landscape.

The decommissioning costs are part of the strike price.

[Robertj21a]

Can we get back on topic please ?

[Jim AK]

These stupid windmills really are not the answer due to the fact electricity cannot be stored & must be produced on demand. I'm told they have ongoing costs of bearings needing change too. The weight of the blades crushes them if stationary for too long.

Also heard the ones off Whistable coast have Diesel engines to rotate them to stop this. Wonder if that's just hearsay though.

[Willy Nilly]

Jim AK said:

Also heard the ones off Whistable coast have Diesel engines to rotate them to stop this. Wonder if that's just hearsay though.

for motoring them around when they are being maintained. Why the fk would anyone turn the whole turbine around to make electricity when they could couple the engine directly to the generator?

[MarshPhantom]

BBC's Steve Hewlett dead

[Jim AK]

Willy Nilly said:

for motoring them around when they are being maintained. Why the fk would anyone turn the whole turbine around to make electricity when they could couple the engine directly to the generator?

Like I said it could just be hearsay & it wouldn't surprise me if it was bks, the things aren't popular with the locals at all.

[Willy Nilly]

Jim AK said:

Willy Nilly said:

for motoring them around when they are being maintained. Why the fk would anyone turn the whole turbine around to make electricity when they could couple the engine directly to the generator?

Like I said it could just be hearsay & it wouldn't surprise me if it was bks, the things aren't popular with the locals at all.

There's loads of them around here, don't see the problem. People want the lights on but don't want coal power, or solar farms, or nuclear, or gas or wind. Knobs, the lot of them.

[K12beano]

MarshPhantom said:

BBC's Steve Hewlett dead

Listening to PM - fantastic and honest coverage by Brave Steve and Eddie.

Obviously it is an inevitability but cannot manage not to shed a tear.

[MarshPhantom]

K12beano said:

MarshPhantom said:

BBC's Steve Hewlett dead

Listening to PM - fantastic and honest coverage by Brave Steve and Eddie.

Obviously it is an inevitability but cannot manage not to shed a tear.

Yes, a real shame. Nice chap and did some good radio.

[Janluke]

MarshPhantom said:

K12beano said:

MarshPhantom said:

BBC's Steve Hewlett dead

Listening to PM - fantastic and honest coverage by Brave Steve and Eddie.

Obviously it is an inevitability but cannot manage not to shed a tear.

Yes, a real shame. Nice chap and did some good radio.

I'd been listening week on week and must admit this upset me more than it should. I respected the matter of fact account

[Eric Mc]

Janluke said:

MarshPhantom said:

K12beano said:

MarshPhantom said:

BBC's Steve Hewlett dead

Listening to PM - fantastic and honest coverage by Brave Steve and Eddie.

Obviously it is an inevitability but cannot manage not to shed a tear.

Yes, a real shame. Nice chap and did some good radio.

I'd been listening week on week and must admit this upset me more than it should. I respected the matter of fact account

Same here. He was the same age as me so it's good lesson in learning to appreciate the life you have.

[Eric Mc]

Another noted broadcaster and presenter has passed away - Frank Delaney. He may not be that well known to many PHers but he had a long and distinguished career as a broadcaster, journalist and novelist.

I remember his when he started out reading the TV news for Irish television in the early 1970s. I'm pretty sure it was he who was reading the news the night Irish TV news covered the crash of the Tu144 airliner at the 1973 Paris Air Show.

He presented a number of history series on BBC in the 1980s and was a noted Radio 4 broadcaster. One of the programmes he created for Radio 4, "Word of Mouth" is still running.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Delaney

[Vocal Minority]

hornetrider said:

We just reading that. Poor bloke, leaves a wife and two children

Have seen a slew of articles about depression in professional athletes in the wake of his death.

Nothing official or confirmed, but there is a certain implication.

Absolute bd of a thing if true....depression really is a fking fk.

[pingu393]

Vocal Minority said:

hornetrider said:

We just reading that. Poor bloke, leaves a wife and two children

Have seen a slew of articles about depression in professional athletes in the wake of his death.

Nothing official or confirmed, but there is a certain implication.

Absolute bd of a thing if true....depression really is a fking fk.

Absolutely understandable. One day at the peak of your powers with the adulation of thousands, the next a "nobody".

They are a twisted knee away from that day and have no (or very little) preparation.