Is your job at risk from A.I. ?
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I am one of the people making this possible. My job is to design and build artificial intelligence systems that is used in commercial settings.
Many of the predictions of the impact that will occur once artificial intelligence scales are possibly underplayed. All industries will be affected to a greater or lesser extent, it is the timing of each which is harder to predict. Not everything will immediately be AI powered or indeed be the correct answer. The example of the pub and the implicit human interaction makes unlikely to drastically change any time soon.
In the US computerised skin cancer detection now outperforms that of the human counterpart. Computervision combined with some deep learning is better than a Medical degree and extensive training. If you were a patient in that situation I am sure your desire would be driven by reaching the very best diagnostic result irrespective of the technology involved.
The biggest use of the technology I see happening over the next year is to greatly increase individuals capabilities. Every worker will be able to achieve more in their chosen profession.
Many of the predictions of the impact that will occur once artificial intelligence scales are possibly underplayed. All industries will be affected to a greater or lesser extent, it is the timing of each which is harder to predict. Not everything will immediately be AI powered or indeed be the correct answer. The example of the pub and the implicit human interaction makes unlikely to drastically change any time soon.
In the US computerised skin cancer detection now outperforms that of the human counterpart. Computervision combined with some deep learning is better than a Medical degree and extensive training. If you were a patient in that situation I am sure your desire would be driven by reaching the very best diagnostic result irrespective of the technology involved.
The biggest use of the technology I see happening over the next year is to greatly increase individuals capabilities. Every worker will be able to achieve more in their chosen profession.
I'm also one of the people making this possible, but all I'm doing is writing macros in Visual Basic. We talk about AI, but 90% of office administration jobs don't require intelligence - they just involve following simple rules.
The only reason a lot of people are in work is the prevalence of what I understand in the business are called "swivel chair interfaces", where someone reads something off a screen in one computer system and then types it into a different one. There should be no need for anything like that in a modern office.
Whenever I'm talking to anyone, I say "make your job about knowledge, not about process - because if your job is a process you won't have a job in ten years' time", and I'm only half joking.
The only reason a lot of people are in work is the prevalence of what I understand in the business are called "swivel chair interfaces", where someone reads something off a screen in one computer system and then types it into a different one. There should be no need for anything like that in a modern office.
Whenever I'm talking to anyone, I say "make your job about knowledge, not about process - because if your job is a process you won't have a job in ten years' time", and I'm only half joking.
davepoth said:
I'm also one of the people making this possible, but all I'm doing is writing macros in Visual Basic. We talk about AI, but 90% of office administration jobs don't require intelligence - they just involve following simple rules.
The only reason a lot of people are in work is the prevalence of what I understand in the business are called "swivel chair interfaces", where someone reads something off a screen in one computer system and then types it into a different one. There should be no need for anything like that in a modern office.
Whenever I'm talking to anyone, I say "make your job about knowledge, not about process - because if your job is a process you won't have a job in ten years' time", and I'm only half joking.
Very wise words, rings true for me.The only reason a lot of people are in work is the prevalence of what I understand in the business are called "swivel chair interfaces", where someone reads something off a screen in one computer system and then types it into a different one. There should be no need for anything like that in a modern office.
Whenever I'm talking to anyone, I say "make your job about knowledge, not about process - because if your job is a process you won't have a job in ten years' time", and I'm only half joking.
Its amazing how, even in very modern well funded companies these swivel chair jobs are prevalent.
davepoth said:
I'm also one of the people making this possible, but all I'm doing is writing macros in Visual Basic. We talk about AI, but 90% of office administration jobs don't require intelligence - they just involve following simple rules.
The only reason a lot of people are in work is the prevalence of what I understand in the business are called "swivel chair interfaces", where someone reads something off a screen in one computer system and then types it into a different one. There should be no need for anything like that in a modern office.
Whenever I'm talking to anyone, I say "make your job about knowledge, not about process - because if your job is a process you won't have a job in ten years' time", and I'm only half joking.
very good, and I fully agree. The only reason a lot of people are in work is the prevalence of what I understand in the business are called "swivel chair interfaces", where someone reads something off a screen in one computer system and then types it into a different one. There should be no need for anything like that in a modern office.
Whenever I'm talking to anyone, I say "make your job about knowledge, not about process - because if your job is a process you won't have a job in ten years' time", and I'm only half joking.
What (in my personal horizon) see continuing being valuable and critically done by humans is the creative bit. Anything to do with productivity/volume/adherence to process is better off automated.
Maybe one day AI will far surpass our intelligence and we won't know what hit us (literally). I am very fascinated by this "God-Point" moment.
But until then, I think it will be people who write beautiful stories, take inspiring pictures, compose evocative music and so on. (and hammer sausages into lawn/throw cans of redbull)
People who worry about robotills stealing jobs are missing the points by a mile. The whole supermarket concept is already toast.
fat80b said:
BlueFiestaST said:
I work on the railway.
...... their duties given to train drivers (driver then has to check 2 or 3 screens with multiple cctv cameras on them to check the platforms are safe.
Are you a driver by any chance ? - The AI can drive the train and the image recognition will be able to figure out that it is safe to close the doors etc etc. ...... their duties given to train drivers (driver then has to check 2 or 3 screens with multiple cctv cameras on them to check the platforms are safe.
Train drivers are the top of my list of jobs that are already not actually required in an autonomous world. Bring on lower cost train journeys.....
Bob
MarshPhantom said:
stuartmmcfc said:
TBH I can't think of a single job that couldn't be done by .AI.
Seriously?The future is worrying.
Have you never seen Terminator?
stuartmmcfc said:
Seriously, is there a job that couldn't be done in the future by a more intelligent creation? Don't forget there'll come a point when they start improving themselves both "mentally" and physically and start thinking in a way that we can't understand. Any job that requires abstract thinking will be done better. I'm not saying this will happen next week but probably in my children's lifetime.
The future is worrying.
Have you never seen Terminator?
Most species, except us, live in balance with each other and their environment. Who's to say the robots wouldn't also?. The future is worrying.
Have you never seen Terminator?
Perhaps a future run by robots might actually be better.
stuartmmcfc said:
MarshPhantom said:
stuartmmcfc said:
TBH I can't think of a single job that couldn't be done by .AI.
Seriously?The future is worrying.
Have you never seen Terminator?
For example an AI might be able to look at at a load of test results and tell you what's wrong with your car, but developing a robotic system that can change the oil on any car you give it, and replace a drop link and change the radiator is a long way away. Machines that can out think us or out perform us in specific tasks are already here, ones that can out think us and out perform us in multiple areas will be a long time coming.
RizzoTheRat said:
There's a big difference between artificial intelligence and the robotics needed to carry out various jobs.
For example an AI might be able to look at at a load of test results and tell you what's wrong with your car, but developing a robotic system that can change the oil on any car you give it, and replace a drop link and change the radiator is a long way away. Machines that can out think us or out perform us in specific tasks are already here, ones that can out think us and out perform us in multiple areas will be a long time coming.
Until of course 'things' are designed for robotic maintenance and robotic interaction instead of human. For example an AI might be able to look at at a load of test results and tell you what's wrong with your car, but developing a robotic system that can change the oil on any car you give it, and replace a drop link and change the radiator is a long way away. Machines that can out think us or out perform us in specific tasks are already here, ones that can out think us and out perform us in multiple areas will be a long time coming.
True, but then you get on to less efficient modular design, so your local robotic garage drops out the entire engine, slots a new one, and sends the old one off to a specialist engine refurbishing facility. This approach is already in use in some areas but it adds cost/weight/complexity. Might eventually make sense but a human mechanic's going to be cheaper for a while yet IMO.
Looking ahead in terms of cars specifically, I can see a time whereby car ownership is a thing of the past.
With driverless cars, why would you want to own it?
You'd just call one up via the internet and it will arrive for you to step in.
As such the operation and maintenance would likely be fully automated, as the car will drive itself to the 'garage' when it flags up it need maintenance.
There would likely not be local garages but a number of national centres whereby a full engine drop and replacement would likely be done within minutes.
Given that cars are also likely to be very good on mpg with mainly battery powered powerplants (it therefore would be much less cost in asking that vehicle to travel to a maintenance centre a good number of miles away).
Some say the future is bright - but I can see a storm coming
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zTzh8uhnlqc/hqdefault.jpg
With driverless cars, why would you want to own it?
You'd just call one up via the internet and it will arrive for you to step in.
As such the operation and maintenance would likely be fully automated, as the car will drive itself to the 'garage' when it flags up it need maintenance.
There would likely not be local garages but a number of national centres whereby a full engine drop and replacement would likely be done within minutes.
Given that cars are also likely to be very good on mpg with mainly battery powered powerplants (it therefore would be much less cost in asking that vehicle to travel to a maintenance centre a good number of miles away).
Some say the future is bright - but I can see a storm coming
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zTzh8uhnlqc/hqdefault.jpg
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