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SystemParanoia said:
Racism is alive and well
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-ne...
This poor boy got forced into isolation on his first day at school because of his hair, and then told that he has to cut it.
He is a Rastafarian and Just like a Sikh, his hair is a part of his faith.
In the same vein, they would not have told a Sikh boy to cut off his hair and remove his turban,
This country gets more disgusting every day, not just because of the random knuckle dragging racists, but the in built institutional racism that we fight daily in almost every aspect of life.
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-ne...
This poor boy got forced into isolation on his first day at school because of his hair, and then told that he has to cut it.
He is a Rastafarian and Just like a Sikh, his hair is a part of his faith.
In the same vein, they would not have told a Sikh boy to cut off his hair and remove his turban,
This country gets more disgusting every day, not just because of the random knuckle dragging racists, but the in built institutional racism that we fight daily in almost every aspect of life.
You are paranoid.The mother knew exactly what the school requirements were.
Sent the child there with no intention of following them and now wants to play the race card - THAT is what is what is wrong with this country.
Someone wants to wear a cricifix for contact sport but is asked to remove it, another wants to wear a turban to swimming, someone else has long hair for religious reasons, but as an earlier poster noted, nothing in this particular school fits with Rastafarian values so why does she want her child there ?
These same stories come up every September- nothing new other than people like you make an issue of it.
SystemParanoia said:
Racism is alive and well
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-ne...
This poor boy got forced into isolation on his first day at school because of his hair, and then told that he has to cut it.
He is a Rastafarian and Just like a Sikh, his hair is a part of his faith.
In the same vein, they would not have told a Sikh boy to cut off his hair and remove his turban,
This country gets more disgusting every day, not just because of the random knuckle dragging racists, but the in built institutional racism that we fight daily in almost every aspect of life.
1. His hair fetish is due to religion not race.http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-ne...
This poor boy got forced into isolation on his first day at school because of his hair, and then told that he has to cut it.
He is a Rastafarian and Just like a Sikh, his hair is a part of his faith.
In the same vein, they would not have told a Sikh boy to cut off his hair and remove his turban,
This country gets more disgusting every day, not just because of the random knuckle dragging racists, but the in built institutional racism that we fight daily in almost every aspect of life.
2. Racism is to treat someone differently or discriminate against them due to their race. If the school altered their rules, applicable to all, to allow his long hair then they would be treating him differently due to his religion. Hence discriminating. Still not racist mind.
3. Sending your child to a school which has rules contrary to your/his beliefs. Either attention whoring or stupid.
Lastly whilst the chavvy behavior was unacceptable it doesn't really strike me a racist, they are too stupid to be racist, it was just a convenient tag used as an insult, I was often called names in school as I was born across the border in Wales, the fact I was not ashamed to be Welsh removed most if not all of the sting. No one has been discriminated against here, toerags will have attempted to insult anyone they encounter regardless of race or religion.
DonkeyApple said:
SystemParanoia said:
Racism is alive and well
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-ne...
This poor boy got forced into isolation on his first day at school because of his hair, and then told that he has to cut it.
He is a Rastafarian and Just like a Sikh, his hair is a part of his faith.
In the same vein, they would not have told a Sikh boy to cut off his hair and remove his turban,
This country gets more disgusting every day, not just because of the random knuckle dragging racists, but the in built institutional racism that we fight daily in almost every aspect of life.
It's worth taking a step back from this article and applying some logical thinking. http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-ne...
This poor boy got forced into isolation on his first day at school because of his hair, and then told that he has to cut it.
He is a Rastafarian and Just like a Sikh, his hair is a part of his faith.
In the same vein, they would not have told a Sikh boy to cut off his hair and remove his turban,
This country gets more disgusting every day, not just because of the random knuckle dragging racists, but the in built institutional racism that we fight daily in almost every aspect of life.
Fulham Boys School is a free school built around quite a robust Christian belief. It is also has a board of governors that is all white and English.
This is public information. Everyone in Fulham knows why this free school was set up, who set it up and what they wish to achieve. There is absolutely nothing insidious in this. It is a free school.
A true Rastafarian would not allow their child to attend such an establishment on many grounds. The basic existence of this school is an anathema to their beliefs and their roots. There is not a single element that is remotely compliant to their way of life or beliefs.
The school is so manifestly Babylonian that it is utterly farcical for a Rasta to attend it by their own doctrine. This school would be seen as evil and as an establishment of the devil.
In religious terms dreadlocks hair is symbolic of the intolerance of Western values by espousing the use of scissors and blades as they are the creation of the evil white devil.
And to cap it all, Rastafarianism is a misogynistic, racist, homophobic, dishonest load of offensive tripe that is an anethema to decent human values and certainly has no place being tolerate let alone respected.
So, in short, if this lady and her child were really Rastas then they wouldn't dream of stepping foot in the type of establishment this school is. She just doesn't want her kid to look uncool and is referencing what happened in the 50s in Jamaica where the teaching establishment forcibly cut children's hair.
The solution is for her to move her child to one of the many schools which meet Rastafarian religious criteria of not teaching Christianity, not being run by whites, not having women in roles of authority, not tolerating any LGBT rights and worshiping a great man who is believed to still be alive or to have ascended to heaven but in fact was murdered and buried under a toilet by a bunch of loons.
Im not a fan of 'religion' or special sky fairy's
Its just that These kids would not be asked to remove their turbans and cut their hair
Just as these guys would not be forced to cut their hair in order to facilitate wearing a helmet
so why discriminate against one religion that wears their hair long, but not the other?
I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that the school policy was designed to cut out "chavvy" hairstyles. You know the type...
It's for pretty much the same reason as why some schools ban branded trainers/clothes and have strict uniform policies. Now parents may or may not agree with these, but they are ALWAYS made aware of them and, in many cases, have to formally sign up to them.
In fact, you normally get at least 10 examples of similar stories every September, usually accompanied by a CompoFace parent. the only difference in this case is that the race card is being played, rather than the "my kid has ADHD/special needs/ is bullied" (insert any other crap parenting excuse)
It's for pretty much the same reason as why some schools ban branded trainers/clothes and have strict uniform policies. Now parents may or may not agree with these, but they are ALWAYS made aware of them and, in many cases, have to formally sign up to them.
In fact, you normally get at least 10 examples of similar stories every September, usually accompanied by a CompoFace parent. the only difference in this case is that the race card is being played, rather than the "my kid has ADHD/special needs/ is bullied" (insert any other crap parenting excuse)
SystemParanoia said:
Racism is alive and well
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-ne...
This poor boy got forced into isolation on his first day at school because of his hair, and then told that he has to cut it.
He is a Rastafarian and Just like a Sikh, his hair is a part of his faith.
In the same vein, they would not have told a Sikh boy to cut off his hair and remove his turban,
This country gets more disgusting every day, not just because of the random knuckle dragging racists, but the in built institutional racism that we fight daily in almost every aspect of life.
perhaps you should leave it thenhttp://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-ne...
This poor boy got forced into isolation on his first day at school because of his hair, and then told that he has to cut it.
He is a Rastafarian and Just like a Sikh, his hair is a part of his faith.
In the same vein, they would not have told a Sikh boy to cut off his hair and remove his turban,
This country gets more disgusting every day, not just because of the random knuckle dragging racists, but the in built institutional racism that we fight daily in almost every aspect of life.
SystemParanoia said:
isnt religious crap protected in law though ?
NoSystemParanoia said:
isnt religious crap protected in law though ?
trying to be chavvy/trendy/hipster is different problem that needs to be dealt with 
Chav students are the result of chav parenting. It's a vicious cycle that needs breaking.
DonkeyApple said:
How do they teach all those remote living children in Australia?
There aren't actually that many in remote areas. Over 90% of the population lives in cities. For those that aren't near a school, Australia has the school of the air.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_Air
Vocal Minority said:
People are starting to take criticism of Britain very personally!
Yep, instead of saying "we should improve and become a better place to live" they say "If you dont like anything, leave".If we let these people win, Britain will become a much crappier place to live. Do these people really represent British values? Just what are British values?
http://www.doingsmsc.org.uk/british-values/ said:
According to Ofsted, British values are:
democracy; the rule of law; individual liberty; mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith.
Certainly a good set of values to have, but I don't see anything in there saying "get out if you don't agree with us" which would seem inherently contrary to these values to begin with. It seems those telling others they should leave because they disagree are the ones acting contrary to British values.democracy; the rule of law; individual liberty; mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith.
Personally I'd rather my country stand up to criticism rather than tell exile those who would dare criticise us. A society (and culture) that weathers criticism is a strong society.
captain_cynic said:
Personally I'd rather my country stand up to criticism rather than tell exile those who would dare criticise us. A society (and culture) that weathers criticism is a strong society.
I assume the 'tell' above was left over from a previous draft?If that's the case, then you are misrepresenting the position of those who wonder why, when he believes this country to be disgusting, he doesn't leave.
But in any case, 'disgusting' is hardly constructive criticism, it's just ignorant name calling.
singlecoil said:
captain_cynic said:
Personally I'd rather my country stand up to criticism rather than tell exile those who would dare criticise us. A society (and culture) that weathers criticism is a strong society.
I assume the 'tell' above was left over from a previous draft?If that's the case, then you are misrepresenting the position of those who wonder why, when he believes this country to be disgusting, he doesn't leave.
But in any case, 'disgusting' is hardly constructive criticism, it's just ignorant name calling.
and like @captain_cynic i'd rather it become a better place, rather than one that vilifies and ostracises anyone that doesn't blindly believe that everything is great because "im ok, so everyone else should be too; if they're not they should leave"
people that are not you have struggles, problems and issues that society cause and at the same time make difficult to resolve.
But im glad you're ok mate.. that's fantastic.
singlecoil said:
I assume the 'tell' above was left over from a previous draft?
If that's the case, then you are misrepresenting the position of those who wonder why, when he believes this country to be disgusting, he doesn't leave.
But in any case, 'disgusting' is hardly constructive criticism, it's just ignorant name calling.
Nope, If that's the case, then you are misrepresenting the position of those who wonder why, when he believes this country to be disgusting, he doesn't leave.
But in any case, 'disgusting' is hardly constructive criticism, it's just ignorant name calling.
I meant it, A society that cant handle its critics is not one that deserves or is strong enough to survive.
Think about the kind of society that disallows it's critics, the kinds that use force to silence them... Is that what you want Britain to become?
Because if you think he has to leave because he finds one aspect of modern Britain distasteful, then that is the society you seek to create.
singlecoil said:
But in any case, 'disgusting' is hardly constructive criticism, it's just ignorant name calling.
Actually, telling him he has to leave because he disagrees with you is ignorant in the extreme. singlecoil said:
I assume the 'tell' above was left over from a previous draft?
If that's the case, then you are misrepresenting the position of those who wonder why, when he believes this country to be disgusting, he doesn't leave.
But in any case, 'disgusting' is hardly constructive criticism, it's just ignorant name calling.
Well SP is banned from NP&E as far as i recollect so he has to try winding people up on other parts of the forums.If that's the case, then you are misrepresenting the position of those who wonder why, when he believes this country to be disgusting, he doesn't leave.
But in any case, 'disgusting' is hardly constructive criticism, it's just ignorant name calling.
i am of indian origin . i grew up in birmingham in the '60's and '70's. at the time if somebody being racist meant them making comments about curry , i would not evennoticed. in reality it meant being chased and posibly being beaten to a pulp by groups of yobs. the comments about curry could be left to the teachers.
what kept me going at the time was the knowledge that the majority of people were decent and not overtly racist. many many times i was patched up , having been attacked.
what was more of a concern was the more subtle racism , such as when applying for a job. fortunately i bypassed that as when i graduated there was a recession on so i decided to go self employed.
i am 54 now and i cannot recall any racist incidents bar somebody not wanting me to buy their house. i went on to buy , in my eye, a better house. the vendor of the original house got back in touch so say that i could view
what kept me going at the time was the knowledge that the majority of people were decent and not overtly racist. many many times i was patched up , having been attacked.
what was more of a concern was the more subtle racism , such as when applying for a job. fortunately i bypassed that as when i graduated there was a recession on so i decided to go self employed.
i am 54 now and i cannot recall any racist incidents bar somebody not wanting me to buy their house. i went on to buy , in my eye, a better house. the vendor of the original house got back in touch so say that i could view
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