Getting my daughter into school mid year.

[King Herald]

Blown2CV said:

i'm not going to butter you up - you asked for advice. I am telling you my advice. I don't give a st whether you like it. You need to keep her in school over there till she's done, otherwise you are ruining her chances of getting good qualifications. You cannot blame a UK school for telling you you are doing the wrong thing by trying to enrol her at this point, because you are doing the wrong thing by trying to enrol her at this point.

For some people it is always the school's fault, and they take no responsibility for their own, and their family's outcomes. Take some responsibility.

I was HOPING for constructive advice, like the adults here gave, not a bunch of teenage "well, it is all your stupid fault for bringing her over here" drivel!!!!!

We are here now, we moved, we unloaded the long term tenants out of our rental house, we have closed down our house in the Philippines and are in the process of shipping our stuff back over here, and it is not just to get the daughter into school, there is a lot more involved.

I'll say it again, the school TOLD me last October they could do something, sort something out, maybe drop her back a year, maybe give extra tuition to get her up to grade, but when we showed up they simply said no and reeled off excuses.

I was not aware the GCSE system had changed so dramatically in the last few years, as it used to be a joke, the last I read of it, with 80% pass rates and simple exams. I was told all this AFTER we had moved here.

[Sheepshanks]

King Herald said:

And frankly, if the schools are more concerned about thwir 'results aggregate' than they are about their individual pupils, maybe they should go through a cull after the mock exams last week, kick out the thickest ones, eh???

That's exactly what private schools do. The better state schools would do it too, if they could, but it's extremely difficult to exclude kids for any reason now.

[anonymous-user]

King Herald said:

Blown2CV said:

i'm not going to butter you up - you asked for advice. I am telling you my advice. I don't give a st whether you like it. You need to keep her in school over there till she's done, otherwise you are ruining her chances of getting good qualifications. You cannot blame a UK school for telling you you are doing the wrong thing by trying to enrol her at this point, because you are doing the wrong thing by trying to enrol her at this point.

For some people it is always the school's fault, and they take no responsibility for their own, and their family's outcomes. Take some responsibility.

I was HOPING for constructive advice, like the adults here gave, not a bunch of teenage "well, it is all your stupid fault for bringing her over here" drivel!!!!!

We are here now, we moved, we unloaded the long term tenants out of our rental house, we have closed down our house in the Philippines and are in the process of shipping our stuff back over here, and it is not just to get the daughter into school, there is a lot more involved.

I'll say it again, the school TOLD me last October they could do something, sort something out, maybe drop her back a year, maybe give extra tuition to get her up to grade, but when we showed up they simply said no and reeled off excuses.

I was not aware the GCSE system had changed so dramatically in the last few years, as it used to be a joke, the last I read of it, with 80% pass rates and simple exams. I was told all this AFTER we had moved here.

Careless on your part then.
Take a long hard look at yourself, stop being so bloody selfish, life isn't all about toys. You, by having a daughter, are there to look after and do the best for her. Shipping her off to the Philippines at such a delicate age is not great for her, let's face it, you dragged your family off to the Philippines so YOU can have a great time. YOU said, that the rest of the family didn't take to the Philippines. Well obviously, jetting off to a country in Asia, which has a low education rate and low development compared to a superpower like Britain, away from friends and family is going to be painful for your children and wife. You said your daughter thought she would like it - your daughter was naïve! She was only a young child!

Then coming back to the GB and having a big strop because things didn't go your way and the council didn't bow down and kiss your arse! Your daughter is now going to struggle in life, thanks to your selfishness and bad decisions. Not only has she got a poorer education to start with, you have jetted here in the middle of the school AND GCSE season and expected to get a place?
The whole "moving to the Philippines" thing was ridiculous. Maybe moving to Australia, Canada, US, France.. but moving to the bloody Philippines with kids is ridiculous. Retirement haven? Maybe. A place to live with British children who have no grasp of the language or culture and giving them the most important part of their education? No.

Get a grip!

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 21st January 22:57

[King Herald]

sleepera6 said:

Careless on your part then.
Take a long hard look at yourself, stop being so bloody selfish, life isn't all about toys. You, by having a daughter, are there to look after and do the best for her. Shipping her off to the Philippines at such a delicate age is not great for her, let's face it, you dragged your family off to the Philippines so YOU can have a great time. YOU said, that the rest of the family didn't take to the Philippines. Well obviously, jetting off to a country in Asia, which has a low education rate and low development compared to a superpower like Britain, away from friends and family is going to be painful for your children and wife. You said your daughter thought she would like it - your daughter was naïve! She was only a young child!

Then coming back to the GB and having a big strop because things didn't go your way and the council didn't bow down and kiss your arse! Your daughter is now going to struggle in life, thanks to your selfishness and bad decisions. Not only has she got a poorer education to start with, you have jetted here in the middle of the school AND GCSE season and expected to get a place?

Get a grip!

Oh dear, I guess the pubs have closed, the chavs have got back home to log onto their neighbours wifi with their stolen iphones.....

End of thread, the idiot factor has finally arrived to fk it all up in grand old PH fashion!

[anonymous-user]

King Herald said:

sleepera6 said:

Careless on your part then.
Take a long hard look at yourself, stop being so bloody selfish, life isn't all about toys. You, by having a daughter, are there to look after and do the best for her. Shipping her off to the Philippines at such a delicate age is not great for her, let's face it, you dragged your family off to the Philippines so YOU can have a great time. YOU said, that the rest of the family didn't take to the Philippines. Well obviously, jetting off to a country in Asia, which has a low education rate and low development compared to a superpower like Britain, away from friends and family is going to be painful for your children and wife. You said your daughter thought she would like it - your daughter was naïve! She was only a young child!

Then coming back to the GB and having a big strop because things didn't go your way and the council didn't bow down and kiss your arse! Your daughter is now going to struggle in life, thanks to your selfishness and bad decisions. Not only has she got a poorer education to start with, you have jetted here in the middle of the school AND GCSE season and expected to get a place?

Get a grip!

Oh dear, I guess the pubs have closed, the chavs have got back home to log onto their neighbours wifi with their stolen iphones.....

End of thread, the idiot factor has finally arrived to fk it all up in grand old PH fashion!

I guess your daughter won't be talking to you when she fails all her GCSE's.

[anonymous-user]

Getting her an Xbox One instead of a private tutor isn't going to help

Facepalm

[Blown2CV]

King Herald said:

Blown2CV said:

i'm not going to butter you up - you asked for advice. I am telling you my advice. I don't give a st whether you like it. You need to keep her in school over there till she's done, otherwise you are ruining her chances of getting good qualifications. You cannot blame a UK school for telling you you are doing the wrong thing by trying to enrol her at this point, because you are doing the wrong thing by trying to enrol her at this point.

For some people it is always the school's fault, and they take no responsibility for their own, and their family's outcomes. Take some responsibility.

I was HOPING for constructive advice, like the adults here gave, not a bunch of teenage "well, it is all your stupid fault for bringing her over here" drivel!!!!!

We are here now, we moved, we unloaded the long term tenants out of our rental house, we have closed down our house in the Philippines and are in the process of shipping our stuff back over here, and it is not just to get the daughter into school, there is a lot more involved.

I'll say it again, the school TOLD me last October they could do something, sort something out, maybe drop her back a year, maybe give extra tuition to get her up to grade, but when we showed up they simply said no and reeled off excuses.

I was not aware the GCSE system had changed so dramatically in the last few years, as it used to be a joke, the last I read of it, with 80% pass rates and simple exams. I was told all this AFTER we had moved here.

over and over you've misinterpreted what i am saying. Getting time abroad is an awesome idea. Uprooting everyone at a critical time in your daughter's education is not. All that aside (although it is the main issue), I can't believe you decided to move back to UK on the basis of someone at the school saying they could be able to do something. I'd want it confirmed in writing at least. They clearly looked at it, and decided it was completely impractical. They could have got back to you before you moved, but then equally you could have sought to confirm first.

[Blown2CV]

King Herald said:

sleepera6 said:

Careless on your part then.
Take a long hard look at yourself, stop being so bloody selfish, life isn't all about toys. You, by having a daughter, are there to look after and do the best for her. Shipping her off to the Philippines at such a delicate age is not great for her, let's face it, you dragged your family off to the Philippines so YOU can have a great time. YOU said, that the rest of the family didn't take to the Philippines. Well obviously, jetting off to a country in Asia, which has a low education rate and low development compared to a superpower like Britain, away from friends and family is going to be painful for your children and wife. You said your daughter thought she would like it - your daughter was naïve! She was only a young child!

Then coming back to the GB and having a big strop because things didn't go your way and the council didn't bow down and kiss your arse! Your daughter is now going to struggle in life, thanks to your selfishness and bad decisions. Not only has she got a poorer education to start with, you have jetted here in the middle of the school AND GCSE season and expected to get a place?

Get a grip!

Oh dear, I guess the pubs have closed, the chavs have got back home to log onto their neighbours wifi with their stolen iphones.....

End of thread, the idiot factor has finally arrived to fk it all up in grand old PH fashion!

sounds like someone didn't really want to move back to the UK then.

[FlyingMeeces]

Blown2CV said:

i'm not going to butter you up - you asked for advice. I am telling you my advice. I don't give a st whether you like it. You need to keep her in school over there till she's done, otherwise you are ruining her chances of getting good qualifications. You cannot blame a UK school for telling you you are doing the wrong thing by trying to enrol her at this point, because you are doing the wrong thing by trying to enrol her at this point.

For some people it is always the school's fault, and they take no responsibility for their own, and their family's outcomes. Take some responsibility.

That isn't advice. That's just blame. I quite agree that moving at this time of year wasn't a great idea but they were misadvised, and did move, in good faith. They're here. She's here. There isn't a home or a school place for her there.

Within that context there is no choice. The local education authority have a duty to educate her, as do the parents of course. She has a right to be educated. The question is only, how to discharge that duty and uphold that right, now in this situation.

(KH - my childhood best friend was a year 'behind' after a difficult early start and was born in November, making her 10 months older than the oldest kids in our school year ought to be, and 22 months older than me, born in August. It never even slightly became a factor for her or us socially as far as I could tell.)

[Vaud]

OP, could she go back with her mum to finish the school year there?

[northwick]

OP, did you read my post? I suspect that if you go back this week the Head may be far more relaxed now the census has passed. Unless he fears his staff moaning about getting her up to speed in the best way they can.

[Blown2CV]

northwick said:

OP, did you read my post? I suspect that if you go back this week the Head may be far more relaxed now the census has passed. Unless he fears his staff moaning about getting her up to speed in the best way they can.

yes with even less time to do the job, it should now all be fine.

[Storer]

Find your local private International School.

They will almost certainly accommodate you and get your daughter back on track.
You have got two terms to pay for £8k max to avoid any amount of disruption to her education.

[Sump]

King Herald said:

I'll say it again, the school TOLD me last October they could do something, sort something out, maybe drop her back a year, maybe give extra tuition to get her up to grade, but when we showed up they simply said no and reeled off excuses.

I was not aware the GCSE system had changed so dramatically in the last few years, as it used to be a joke, the last I read of it, with 80% pass rates and simple exams. I was told all this AFTER we had moved here.

I think it was quite careless not to do some thorough research and also not to have any form of a back up plan?

Edited by Sump on Monday 23 January 19:05

[Blown2CV]

Sump said:

King Herald said:

Blown2CV said:

I'll say it again, the school TOLD me last October they could do something, sort something out, maybe drop her back a year, maybe give extra tuition to get her up to grade, but when we showed up they simply said no and reeled off excuses.

I was not aware the GCSE system had changed so dramatically in the last few years, as it used to be a joke, the last I read of it, with 80% pass rates and simple exams. I was told all this AFTER we had moved here.

I think it was quite careless not to do some thorough research and also not to have any form of a back up plan?

you've fked up the quoting there. I definitely didn't say that!

[Sump]

Fixed.

[SWH]

Christ there's some unhelpful fkers on here aren't there. Feel free to post up a thread where you've made a major decision and it didn't turn out as planned and we'll offer some equally helpful advice. Or the standard advice - ps off to mumsnet.

OP is a decent chap, was very supportive a number of years back when my eldest was ill, has moved back to the UK and is in a fix getting his daughter into a school, so...

Local education authority have a duty to get her in somewhere, but it appears to be the land of unnecessary battles and possibly not ending up where you want.

There was a helpful suggestion above of a local(ish) International School, or there's likely to be a number of private schools where she can be a year down, catch up and get on. That might be an option, I don't know.

I guess it's going to be down to appetite for a battle with the Education Authority, or finding the right private school to pay... I would expect the admissions department of each of those will offer helpful advice either way as they all know the system too, I'd call them all and explain the situation.

I won't post again - OP feel free to send me a direct message if you need a chat/rant

[Vaud]

I'd suggested it way back, but to raise again.

OP, talk to your local councillor. It's kind of their job to help represent you into the local officialdom. And they know how it works, and will have the right people in their phone book.

Failing that, your MP (after councillor).

[Blown2CV]

SWH said:

Christ there's some unhelpful fkers on here aren't there. Feel free to post up a thread where you've made a major decision and it didn't turn out as planned and we'll offer some equally helpful advice. Or the standard advice - ps off to mumsnet.

OP is a decent chap, was very supportive a number of years back when my eldest was ill, has moved back to the UK and is in a fix getting his daughter into a school, so...

Local education authority have a duty to get her in somewhere, but it appears to be the land of unnecessary battles and possibly not ending up where you want.

There was a helpful suggestion above of a local(ish) International School, or there's likely to be a number of private schools where she can be a year down, catch up and get on. That might be an option, I don't know.

I guess it's going to be down to appetite for a battle with the Education Authority, or finding the right private school to pay... I would expect the admissions department of each of those will offer helpful advice either way as they all know the system too, I'd call them all and explain the situation.

I won't post again - OP feel free to send me a direct message if you need a chat/rant

it was more a case of asking for advice of how he might get out of a st situation he's already fully committed to. It was already too late, but he didn't really like being told that.

[King Herald]

Pleased to say my daughter started in another school today. They were happy to take her in and drop her back a year. She is now the oldest, by two weeks. Bit of a trek to get there by foot, 40 minutes walk, but a bus goes that way.