Scruffy hand-writing

Scruffy hand-writing

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Zammy

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557 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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I have awful hand-writing, it's really is bad, my young nieces have better hand-writing than me. I try to avoid writing infront of other people.

Luckily I work in IT so don't have to write although when taking notes in meetings I do feel embarrassed and try to cover my notes as best I can from the person sat next to me.

I make my wife write cards, letters etc and usually I will just sign it. I hate signing cards at work because there is no getting away with it then.

I am left handed but I don't think that makes a difference (even though I have heard it can be) and on odd occasions it can look ok but the conditions have to be right ie resting on some padding and even the nib of the pen but most times it's a right mess.

Anyone suffer the same?

Robbo 27

3,628 posts

99 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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There is a thread on fountain pens and handwriting on PH

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Fountain pens can help train you to write better, even left handers, I suggest using a fine nibbed pen.

Basically its down to practice, get some graph paper and write out the alphabet in small letters. Someone I know whose handwriting looked like a 5 year olds practiced handwriting and now her handwriting is just beautiful.

Challo

10,097 posts

155 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Zammy said:
I have awful hand-writing, it's really is bad, my young nieces have better hand-writing than me. I try to avoid writing infront of other people.

Luckily I work in IT so don't have to write although when taking notes in meetings I do feel embarrassed and try to cover my notes as best I can from the person sat next to me.

I make my wife write cards, letters etc and usually I will just sign it. I hate signing cards at work because there is no getting away with it then.

I am left handed but I don't think that makes a difference (even though I have heard it can be) and on odd occasions it can look ok but the conditions have to be right ie resting on some padding and even the nib of the pen but most times it's a right mess.

Anyone suffer the same?
Im left handed and my handwriting is very good, but i do write in a bizarre manner which looks like im writing upside down. I think it was born out of using fountain pens and smudging the ink.

RizzoTheRat

25,123 posts

192 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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I make notes in meetings and then look at them half an hour later and have no idea what it says.

Zammy

Original Poster:

557 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Robbo 27 said:
There is a thread on fountain pens and handwriting on PH

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Fountain pens can help train you to write better, even left handers, I suggest using a fine nibbed pen.

Basically its down to practice, get some graph paper and write out the alphabet in small letters. Someone I know whose handwriting looked like a 5 year olds practiced handwriting and now her handwriting is just beautiful.
Cheers Robbo, will give this a try.

Robbo 27

3,628 posts

99 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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RizzoTheRat said:
I make notes in meetings and then look at them half an hour later and have no idea what it says.
That reminds of when I went to a meeting with the son of the company owner, I ran the meeting, five clients plus son and me, the clients were all making notes, dipstick son was looking at the ceiling, coughed and nodded for him to take notes. He took his pen out.

Next morning I asked for his notes so I could do the Minutes, he hesitated.

'You did take some notes didnt you Andrew?'

'I just pretended'.





Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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I also have dreadful handwriting that looks like a dying spider. I'm in IT as well.

RizzoTheRat

25,123 posts

192 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Robbo 27 said:
'I just pretended'.
To be fair I often think I should have just pretended rather than actually writing biggrin

Good point on fountain pens though, I used to always use one at school and found my writing easier to read than with a byro. Maybe I should get a new one.

dudleybloke

19,798 posts

186 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Mine is somewhere between doctors writing and randomly stabbing the page with the pen.

Sheets Tabuer

18,940 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Also work in IT, pretty much everything I do is typed and has been for 25 years, last week I went on a course and made notes, I have no idea what they say.

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Also work in IT, pretty much everything I do is typed and has been for 25 years, last week I went on a course and made notes, I have no idea what they say.
LOL. Same as me. Automatic encrypted writing. Tried to hand fill a form yesterday and filled it out at least three times.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Give me a cheap thin-nibbed biro and my writing is crap. A nice fountain pen or thick biro or even a felt tipped pen and it's actually quite nice. Strange!!

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Maybe completely learn again using your right hand?

Will be awful to start but it will mean you can learn good practice from the beginning.

Make sure you're holding your pen right too, than can cause issues if not picked up on!

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Op, is this you?



I'm obviously kidding but I know a lot of lefties who hold the pen in a strange way/weird angle. I wonder if it's having to go left to right with the "wrong hand" iyswim? Bit like a rightie writing right to left!

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Just thought. Those countries that write right to left are they more left handed?

Edited by Morningside on Monday 23 January 14:39

Zammy

Original Poster:

557 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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garyhun said:
Op, is this you?



I'm obviously kidding but I know a lot of lefties who hold the pen in a strange way/weird angle. I wonder if it's having to go left to right with the "wrong hand" iyswim? Bit like a rightie writing right to left!
Ha nope I don't hold my pen like that, I hold it like any other person I guess. Think I do press quite hard though so need to maybe loosen up my arm. As a left hander I do leave a smudge of ink on my little finger as it trails over the ink that I have just written.

Will try other types of pens too like thick biros, at work and home I'm just picking up the nearest thin biro, that's probs not helping either.

LeeThr

3,122 posts

171 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Mine is useless and always has been, but even more so since I left school as I just don't write more than about half a dozen words in one go at any time now.

The biggest problem I have is in uni, doing an IT course, and spend the entire year doing all work on the computer, typed etc then it comes to end of year exams and there all hand written, bit of a killer.

Ki3r

7,813 posts

159 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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How are you with spelling?

My handwriting is terrible when it comes to words I don't know how to spell. I've recently been diagnosed with dyslexia, and the scruffy handwriting is a way of hiding being bad at spelling.

I'm also left handed, and have the paper at a 90 degree angle.

P-Jay

10,561 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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My hand-writing has been described as being somewhere between unintelligible and "just scruffy lines".

It all started in school (as hand-writing usually does). I started school at 4, they asked me to draw something, I did - apparently, I used my left hand, what being left handed and all, I was told this was wrong - spent the next year learning to write with my right hand, wasn't easy - can write with both now, equally badly.

Fast forward a year or two, struggling with English, same Teacher who 'fixed' my South Paw inclinations told parents "he's a bright lad, but his English skills are appalling". Many extra lessons at home, tutors, off to see an ologist of some description, turns out I'm Dyslexic, this was the 80s so anyone who was a bit slow was labelled "Dyslexic" - they thought because I read words by their shapes rather than the letters, I wrote the same way. Which makes sense sort of, I can print very neatly, if I try to form joined up words though it all goes to hell.

Spent the rest of my school years grappling with it, had my Dyslexia diagnosis ‘formalised’ somewhere along the way in High School which helped. Instead of being thrown in a big class with the thick and lazy, it was 3-4 of us in a group once a week on the sly and I did have some useful skills taught to me to help with it. I did okay, and my writing was fairly legible by the time I entered the world of work in the 90s.

Sadly, for me, good hand writing isn’t like riding a bike, it’s like welding. If you don’t do it a lot, you lose the knack very quickly, even back in the 90s no one I knew ever wrote down anything ‘formally’ you might make notes for yourself, but work went on a screen via a keyboard. On the plus side with spell and grammar checker never more than a few keystrokes away Dyslexia was less of a burden than it was in school.

Finally, in 2009 I crashed my Mountain Bike, lost the end of my right elbow and made a huge mess of my right arm and picked up nerve damaged in both hands, I wield a pen nowadays with all the skill and precision of a Monkey having it’s way with a Beach Ball, for all intents and purposes I can’t write. If I need to write something legibly I have to do it very slowly and print – Hoteliers, Car Rental Desk Staff, Customs Officers and Bank Staff the world over look at me filling in forms like they really should be asking my Care Workers to do it, it’s also very painful, I tend to over-play it so they know it’s an injury and not a lack of ability.




Robbo 27

3,628 posts

99 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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I have never tried one but this ball point pen looks to have some basis of sense in that it makes you hold the pen in a certain way.

It may be worth trying.

https://www.thepencompany.com/product/penagain-erg...