Modern single women
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Vocal Minority said:
Because this thread is a microcosm of angry men - because all of a sudden women are being choosy about them rather than just being thankful for the attention that the man is generous enough to bestow on them.
Kind of nails it for me really. OP - let's be honest. You're f
king boring. You go to work early, you work hard, you want people to like you, you're probably courteous and think you're being gentlemanly (girls think it's a bit creepy but you seem harmless) and you set a bar of what your match should be. You dont sound the type to smack a girl on the arse and she'll blush and wait for you to kiss her, you're more likely to ask permission and then note down the interaction in a pocket notebookSo, hankering after Snapchat Filter girls and getting pissy about it really is just whining and looking in the wrong places. You're not going to be at all interesting to this type of girl, while they're planning their next holiday to Ibiza (7th year on the trot!), you're never going to see that as a good use of your time and start worrying incase you're back late and cant take an extra day off from work. Leave 'em to is, I'm sure you have enough things to worry about that these girls dont need to be one of them.
The sort of girl you're likely after, and it sounds like your clock is ticking, is probably going to be on her third or fourth love, might have already settled down once and it hasnt worked out, has probably had many s
tty relationships before you and is going to be a bit cold to start with. Yet you have seemingly high expectations that you yourself cant match in a fair trade. You dont have the pulling power to get who you want. Stop being a whiney
and start accepting who you are and who others are rather than what they can do for you. andy-xr said:
Kind of nails it for me really.
OP - let's be honest. You're fking boring. You go to work early, you work hard, you want people to like you, you're probably courteous and think you're being gentlemanly (girls think it's a bit creepy but you seem harmless) and you set a bar of what your match should be. You dont sound the type to smack a girl on the arse and she'll blush and wait for you to kiss her, you're more likely to ask permission and then note down the interaction in a pocket notebook
So, hankering after Snapchat Filter girls and getting pissy about it really is just whining and looking in the wrong places. You're not going to be at all interesting to this type of girl, while they're planning their next holiday to Ibiza (7th year on the trot!), you're never going to see that as a good use of your time and start worrying incase you're back late and cant take an extra day off from work. Leave 'em to is, I'm sure you have enough things to worry about that these girls dont need to be one of them.
The sort of girl you're likely after, and it sounds like your clock is ticking, is probably going to be on her third or fourth love, might have already settled down once and it hasnt worked out, has probably had many stty relationships before you and is going to be a bit cold to start with. Yet you have seemingly high expectations that you yourself cant match in a fair trade. You dont have the pulling power to get who you want.
Stop being a whiney and start accepting who you are and who others are rather than what they can do for you.
Well that's a pleasant response to a lighthearted thread OP - let's be honest. You're f
king boring. You go to work early, you work hard, you want people to like you, you're probably courteous and think you're being gentlemanly (girls think it's a bit creepy but you seem harmless) and you set a bar of what your match should be. You dont sound the type to smack a girl on the arse and she'll blush and wait for you to kiss her, you're more likely to ask permission and then note down the interaction in a pocket notebookSo, hankering after Snapchat Filter girls and getting pissy about it really is just whining and looking in the wrong places. You're not going to be at all interesting to this type of girl, while they're planning their next holiday to Ibiza (7th year on the trot!), you're never going to see that as a good use of your time and start worrying incase you're back late and cant take an extra day off from work. Leave 'em to is, I'm sure you have enough things to worry about that these girls dont need to be one of them.
The sort of girl you're likely after, and it sounds like your clock is ticking, is probably going to be on her third or fourth love, might have already settled down once and it hasnt worked out, has probably had many s
tty relationships before you and is going to be a bit cold to start with. Yet you have seemingly high expectations that you yourself cant match in a fair trade. You dont have the pulling power to get who you want. Stop being a whiney
and start accepting who you are and who others are rather than what they can do for you. 
I wonder if people are giving to much priority to this.
I have spent a lot of my life doing really interesting things career wise, moving around the world, doing some fun car stuff, keeping my old friends, socializing around work, ( not dates as such). Wherever I was I had a casual social circle, and it just seemed that people who were also busy with their lives appeared. I am sure there were women who had the same old same old holidays etc that some have mentioned, but it alway seemed that busy successful people were also really interesting , and there were certainly very eligible women in those categories..doctors, lawyers, finance people, bankers and so on; people running small businesses, entrepreneurs,all kinds.
I know this is true today as I am (yes really ) on a number of company boards, and the people I run into professionally ( who are much younger typically than I am) are often very bright,engaging, high energy, and not at all boring. Admittedly my interactions are very much at a professional level, but I do not see the same people who are often described here....
Sometimes building up career success means that other things come naturally.
I have spent a lot of my life doing really interesting things career wise, moving around the world, doing some fun car stuff, keeping my old friends, socializing around work, ( not dates as such). Wherever I was I had a casual social circle, and it just seemed that people who were also busy with their lives appeared. I am sure there were women who had the same old same old holidays etc that some have mentioned, but it alway seemed that busy successful people were also really interesting , and there were certainly very eligible women in those categories..doctors, lawyers, finance people, bankers and so on; people running small businesses, entrepreneurs,all kinds.
I know this is true today as I am (yes really ) on a number of company boards, and the people I run into professionally ( who are much younger typically than I am) are often very bright,engaging, high energy, and not at all boring. Admittedly my interactions are very much at a professional level, but I do not see the same people who are often described here....
Sometimes building up career success means that other things come naturally.
Dating for a girl is a buyer's market. For every attractive, intelligent and interesting girl you have 20 guys chasing her down.
And women know this and act accordingly, either consciously or subconsciously.
And the posts above complaining about girls wanting perfection...And at the very same time shooting down options to MEET girls because they won't be ideal is just...Lol.
Maybe you just aren't much of a catch? I know I'm not and react accordingly.
And women know this and act accordingly, either consciously or subconsciously.
And the posts above complaining about girls wanting perfection...And at the very same time shooting down options to MEET girls because they won't be ideal is just...Lol.
Maybe you just aren't much of a catch? I know I'm not and react accordingly.
But what do people mean by saying 'lower your standards' etc.
Do you mean:
(a) Look for relationships with women who have a poor attitude towards men, make them jump through unreasonable hoops and treat them like a useful idiot.
or
(b) Look for relationships with women with a good attitude and have a reasonable idea of what a balanced relationship is.
If you mean (a), then why would someone get into a relationship with someone like that. Or if (b), those aren't the women this thread is talking about. (How many times does this need to be said?)
Do you mean:
(a) Look for relationships with women who have a poor attitude towards men, make them jump through unreasonable hoops and treat them like a useful idiot.
or
(b) Look for relationships with women with a good attitude and have a reasonable idea of what a balanced relationship is.
If you mean (a), then why would someone get into a relationship with someone like that. Or if (b), those aren't the women this thread is talking about. (How many times does this need to be said?)
motco said:
steveatesh said:
Possibly wanted their princess ego stroked by talking to a guy who then asks them out, ego stroked for them job done, move onto next one or come back when it needs stroking again...? Just a hypothesis of course, other reasons could apply....
That sounds credible; a reassurance that they still 'have it'.
RicharDC5 said:
andy-xr said:
Kind of nails it for me really.
OP - let's be honest. You're fking boring. You go to work early, you work hard, you want people to like you, you're probably courteous and think you're being gentlemanly (girls think it's a bit creepy but you seem harmless) and you set a bar of what your match should be. You dont sound the type to smack a girl on the arse and she'll blush and wait for you to kiss her, you're more likely to ask permission and then note down the interaction in a pocket notebook
So, hankering after Snapchat Filter girls and getting pissy about it really is just whining and looking in the wrong places. You're not going to be at all interesting to this type of girl, while they're planning their next holiday to Ibiza (7th year on the trot!), you're never going to see that as a good use of your time and start worrying incase you're back late and cant take an extra day off from work. Leave 'em to is, I'm sure you have enough things to worry about that these girls dont need to be one of them.
The sort of girl you're likely after, and it sounds like your clock is ticking, is probably going to be on her third or fourth love, might have already settled down once and it hasnt worked out, has probably had many stty relationships before you and is going to be a bit cold to start with. Yet you have seemingly high expectations that you yourself cant match in a fair trade. You dont have the pulling power to get who you want.
Stop being a whiney and start accepting who you are and who others are rather than what they can do for you.
Well that's a pleasant response to a lighthearted thread OP - let's be honest. You're f
king boring. You go to work early, you work hard, you want people to like you, you're probably courteous and think you're being gentlemanly (girls think it's a bit creepy but you seem harmless) and you set a bar of what your match should be. You dont sound the type to smack a girl on the arse and she'll blush and wait for you to kiss her, you're more likely to ask permission and then note down the interaction in a pocket notebookSo, hankering after Snapchat Filter girls and getting pissy about it really is just whining and looking in the wrong places. You're not going to be at all interesting to this type of girl, while they're planning their next holiday to Ibiza (7th year on the trot!), you're never going to see that as a good use of your time and start worrying incase you're back late and cant take an extra day off from work. Leave 'em to is, I'm sure you have enough things to worry about that these girls dont need to be one of them.
The sort of girl you're likely after, and it sounds like your clock is ticking, is probably going to be on her third or fourth love, might have already settled down once and it hasnt worked out, has probably had many s
tty relationships before you and is going to be a bit cold to start with. Yet you have seemingly high expectations that you yourself cant match in a fair trade. You dont have the pulling power to get who you want. Stop being a whiney
and start accepting who you are and who others are rather than what they can do for you. I do love being shouted down by unknowing white knights who chose their username after a rusty 1980's Ford. I'm not worried, I imagine like Ari et al earlier he's single. EDIT. I notice he has twice as many posts than me in less time. I must be so boring compared to him
I'm more irritated that like so many on here, he hasn't GOT the purpose of this thread. He assumes like the earlier poster that it's all about fat boring guys with no options and Fords XR3's chasing Emily Ratatjkowski. (Or bizarrely selfie pouty snapchatters - Which I don't think the guys here are.
Being a white knight means you wont even entertain the idea that the girl in question is contributing to the situation. Their mangina ways find it better to blame the guy.
It's all about smacking her arse and not writing down "smack her arse" There was me thinking it was about eating her pussy like a starving guy feasting, making her squirt and then tonguing her arse... GroundEffect said:
Dating for a girl is a buyer's market. For every attractive, intelligent and interesting girl you have 20 guys chasing her down.
And women know this and act accordingly, either consciously or subconsciously.
That's probably most of it. Plus the proliferation of White knights. And women know this and act accordingly, either consciously or subconsciously.
GroundEffect said:
And the posts above complaining about girls wanting perfection...And at the very same time shooting down options to MEET girls because they won't be ideal is just...Lol.
I tend towards the notion that if you want a certain type of girl that judges you on your wallet or career. You go to the aforementioned places which are frequented by those girls. So the question I guess is where do you go instead?GroundEffect said:
Maybe you just aren't much of a catch? I know I'm not and react accordingly.
Maybe you're doing yourself down. Maybe you're not the problem. Maybe you are worth more...Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 19th March 20:48
-Pete- said:
No offence intended but I think Paul500 and Rich_W are going to struggle to find what they're looking for. If their 'live' persona is even close to what they write on here, a MSW of any worth is going to run a mile.
Insert Facepalm meme here -->You don't get it either. I don't care if a girl rejects me. That's what equality is all about. It has however gotten to a point where I question if it's worth actively pursuing girls. If it happens it happens. I concentrate on myself more nowadays. I don't do things to try and pander to what a girl might like. If a girl is interested great, if not, no worries.
I find it odd that MSW>30 reject EVERYONE. THIS was the point of the thread.
Do try and keep up. Or maybe take off the White knight armour.
Years back I went on a night out with a girl-friend (ie a mate) and her 4 girl mates. (I must have looked like a proper pimp only guy in a group of 6
) I liked one of them and dropped some hints. But she wasn't interested in me. Fine, her right.
She runs a small business. She had bought her own flat. She has a brain. She's perfectly pleasant. No weirdness that I know of. We're Facebook friends and even now and then over the last years we'd see each other at mutual events and have a chat.
Since then she has not had a SINGLE boyfriend. I've seen her pics on POF and Tinder, since she lives about 2 miles from me and is in the same age range.
Why would she not find ANYBODY to have even a casual relationship with in that time?
Why would the girl Emily in the video in the original post. Not be able to find a guy to be in a relationship with?
Why do the girls that Paul500 is referring to, who re-initiate conversations then go instantly quiet when he suggests a drink?
To all you guys saying that me, Paul500, RicharDc5 etc are idiots. (paraphrasing)
Explain to us WHY MSW>30 are moaning about not finding a suitable guy and not "settling for less" They aren't running a mile from me. They are running a mile from EVERYONE
Apart from perhaps Tom Hardy, apparently he's OK, and once they meet him it will be happily ever after...
Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 19th March 23:33
Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 19th March 23:33
Rich_W said:
Insert Facepalm meme here -->
You don't get it either. I don't care if a girl rejects me. That's what equality is all about. It has however gotten to a point where I question if it's worth actively pursuing girls. If it happens it happens. I concentrate on myself more nowadays. I don't do things to try and pander to what a girl might like. If a girl is interested great, if not, no worries.
I find it odd that MSW>30 reject EVERYONE. THIS was the point of the thread.
Do try and keep up. Or maybe take off the White knight armour.
Years back I went on a night out with a girl-friend (ie a mate) and her 4 girl mates. (I must have looked like a proper pimp only guy in a group of 6 ) I liked one of them and dropped some hints. But she wasn't interested in me.
Fine, her right.
She runs a small business. She had bought her own flat. She has a brain. She's perfectly pleasant. No weirdness that I know of. We're Facebook friends and even now and then over the last years we'd see each other at mutual events and have a chat.
Since then she has not had a SINGLE boyfriend. I've seen her pics on POF and Tinder, since she lives about 2 miles from me and is in the same age range.
Why would she not find ANYBODY to have even a casual relationship with in that time?
Why would the girl Emily in the video in the original post. Not be able to find a guy to be in a relationship with?
Why do the girls that Paul500 is referring to, who re-initiate conversations then go instantly quiet when he suggests a drink?
To all you guys saying that me, Paul500, RicharDc5 etc are idiots. (paraphrasing)
Explain to us WHY MSW>30 are moaning about not finding a suitable guy and not "settling for less" They aren't running a mile from me. They are running a mile from EVERYONE
Apart from perhaps Tom Hardy, apparently he's OK, and once they meet him it will be happily ever after...
Rich, forgive me if you have answered this before but - how old are you?You don't get it either. I don't care if a girl rejects me. That's what equality is all about. It has however gotten to a point where I question if it's worth actively pursuing girls. If it happens it happens. I concentrate on myself more nowadays. I don't do things to try and pander to what a girl might like. If a girl is interested great, if not, no worries.
I find it odd that MSW>30 reject EVERYONE. THIS was the point of the thread.
Do try and keep up. Or maybe take off the White knight armour.
Years back I went on a night out with a girl-friend (ie a mate) and her 4 girl mates. (I must have looked like a proper pimp only guy in a group of 6
) I liked one of them and dropped some hints. But she wasn't interested in me. Fine, her right.
She runs a small business. She had bought her own flat. She has a brain. She's perfectly pleasant. No weirdness that I know of. We're Facebook friends and even now and then over the last years we'd see each other at mutual events and have a chat.
Since then she has not had a SINGLE boyfriend. I've seen her pics on POF and Tinder, since she lives about 2 miles from me and is in the same age range.
Why would she not find ANYBODY to have even a casual relationship with in that time?
Why would the girl Emily in the video in the original post. Not be able to find a guy to be in a relationship with?
Why do the girls that Paul500 is referring to, who re-initiate conversations then go instantly quiet when he suggests a drink?
To all you guys saying that me, Paul500, RicharDc5 etc are idiots. (paraphrasing)
Explain to us WHY MSW>30 are moaning about not finding a suitable guy and not "settling for less" They aren't running a mile from me. They are running a mile from EVERYONE
Apart from perhaps Tom Hardy, apparently he's OK, and once they meet him it will be happily ever after...
Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 19th March 23:33
Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 19th March 23:33
So effectively some people in their thirties would rather be single than settle for the kind of partner available to them. Some of them feel entitled to a relationship with the sort of person who isn't available to them and feel resentful about those people rejecting them. I think those people (of both sexes) would probably be happier if they just owned the consequences of their choices.
There's also another kind- women in limbo. Seeing married men. I know one who is now stuck in liking her own space. She's become stuck in a routine, gets attention (I.e sex) which ticks one box, then lives her life childless and in limbo. Holidays alone, etc.
I could never be that married bloke.
I could never be that married bloke.
otolith said:
So effectively some people in their thirties would rather be single than settle for the kind of partner available to them. Some of them feel entitled to a relationship with the sort of person who isn't available to them and feel resentful about those people rejecting them. I think those people (of both sexes) would probably be happier if they just owned the consequences of their choices.
I guess, but it is interesting why someone who has been on Tinder/PoF for a while (was it years in Rich W's example?) wasn't able to find a date or a relationship in that time? She obviously was "wanting" a relationship as she was on these dating sites. However I get that it can take time to find the right one.
I really don't know what to make of it, I'm in a very ambivalent mood about the whole thing to be honest.
Rich_W said:
DuncanM said:
People,(men and women) need to concentrate more on the type of human being they wish to spend time with, not who they'd like to 'smash'.
I think you haven't read or understood this thread. 
The point is that guys WANT the former. They want the "type of human to spend time with" But can't find it. Since a huge chunk of women aren't like that anymore!
I have understood the thread, and deliberately kept my comment gender neutral.
As a response to the bit in bold, gender roles are constantly changing through the generations aren't they? Who are any of us, to demand that Women (or Men) behave in a particular way?
I don't see it as a gender issue, I see dickish behaviour from both Men and Women.
Rich_W said:
I do love being shouted down by unknowing white knights who chose their username after a rusty 1980's Ford. I'm not worried, I imagine like Ari et al earlier he's single. EDIT. I notice he has twice as many posts than me in less time. I must be so boring compared to him
I'm more irritated that like so many on here, he hasn't GOT the purpose of this thread. He assumes like the earlier poster that it's all about fat boring guys with no options and Fords XR3's chasing Emily Ratatjkowski. (Or bizarrely selfie pouty snapchatters - Which I don't think the guys here are.
Being a white knight means you wont even entertain the idea that the girl in question is contributing to the situation. Their mangina ways find it better to blame the guy.
The girl in your OP, the vlogger. She said she needed to be single for a while to have her own independence and get over some mental health issues. She accepted that it'd take time to find the right person, but she wanted more from her next partner than she'd had before. She wanted to feel that feeling and didnt want to settle for something average.
Somehow you interpreted that as her being a pissy b
h who has money and goes on holidays and will be an old spinster and you hope she dies alone and fk her and the horse she rode in on. White Knight was your label, I dont really think it fits because it's just a word you like the sound of so try to apply it to various scenarios hoping it'll fit one. But it's purpose here isnt valid - I'm aiming my comments at your attitude and how you view/interpret things rather than trying to defend women, who from the sounds of it are doing more than good enough jobs at keeping your dick away from them already.
What you probably havent worked out yet on the Tinder/PoF sites and to some extents the blogger woman as well is that they are possibly looking but they dont need to be looking as their only point of contact on internet dating and they want to be picky. Who're you to argue with what someone else wants?
For many women an average day can see them propositioned a couple of times in various ways, some might be nice and thoughtful, some might not. Extending out options in the hope of meeting the right person isnt a bad thing. You've chosen not to dip your wick in company ink. I think that's daft, but thats where we are. Seeing as you've had a run of them recently I'd hope that you can see that jobs dont last forever.
Rich_W said:
I messaged her and got no reply. Fair enough. I daresay there was probably 1 thing that discounted me. laugh But don't get me wrong, much as I thought she was good looking, she wasn't a solid 10/10. Would love to know what the one thing was. She's still on there now btw months later - and her age range has increased beyond my age.
I just think you're really needy and whiney, why do you need to know what the 1 thing (it might not have been 1 btw it could just be a general 'not for me') was? For you to try and change it, or for you to somehow make a point that this 1 thing isnt such a big deal and she should get over it? She could have thought you sounded obsessive or weird. You really cant change what people will think or do, there's no point trying.
No answer is an answer, it's just not the one you were hoping for.
xjay1337 said:
otolith said:
So effectively some people in their thirties would rather be single than settle for the kind of partner available to them. Some of them feel entitled to a relationship with the sort of person who isn't available to them and feel resentful about those people rejecting them. I think those people (of both sexes) would probably be happier if they just owned the consequences of their choices.
I guess, but it is interesting why someone who has been on Tinder/PoF for a while (was it years in Rich W's example?) wasn't able to find a date or a relationship in that time? She obviously was "wanting" a relationship as she was on these dating sites. However I get that it can take time to find the right one.
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