Modern single women
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
You might want to re-read those lyrics. Put your glasses on this time.
That's what I got from that poem. Nice people are attractive but attractive people are not necessarily nice. But art is like that, there is no correct interpretation. Therefore attempting to use art as a "clever" way of making a point means the intended message can be lost. Good job I'm pretty.
As a rather average looking female I recall having a good female friend who was a lovely person but also very slim and attractive. She was always the centre of attention when men were around and was always being asked out for dates by the more physically attractive, confident guys. I remember being slightly jealous of her for for this reason until one day she told me that she was actually rather fed up of always being asked out by men whose main ambition seemed to be just to display her as a 'trophy girlfriend' on their arm in front of their mates. They didn't really seem to be too interested in her personality and these relationships rarely lasted. She eventually married a really decent, fun but average looking guy who treated her very well.
Rh14n said:
As a rather average looking female I recall having a good female friend who was a lovely person but also very slim and attractive. She was always the centre of attention when men were around and was always being asked out for dates by the more physically attractive, confident guys. I remember being slightly jealous of her for for this reason until one day she told me that she was actually rather fed up of always being asked out by men whose main ambition seemed to be just to display her as a 'trophy girlfriend' on their arm in front of their mates. They didn't really seem to be too interested in her personality and these relationships rarely lasted. She eventually married a really decent, fun but average looking guy who treated her very well.
Awesome 
Smollet said:
I gave up with serious relationships some 25 years ago and 20 years ago I just gave up on any relationship. Since then I don't think I've missed anything not having one and am far happier on my own.
That is of course fair enough, but it doesn't make you typical does it? That's still a pretty unusual lifestyle choice. CharlesdeGaulle said:
Smollet said:
I gave up with serious relationships some 25 years ago and 20 years ago I just gave up on any relationship. Since then I don't think I've missed anything not having one and am far happier on my own.
That is of course fair enough, but it doesn't make you typical does it? That's still a pretty unusual lifestyle choice. CharlesdeGaulle said:
Smollet said:
I gave up with serious relationships some 25 years ago and 20 years ago I just gave up on any relationship. Since then I don't think I've missed anything not having one and am far happier on my own.
That is of course fair enough, but it doesn't make you typical does it? That's still a pretty unusual lifestyle choice. 
PurpleMoonlight said:
Eventually you find the reward is no longer worth the effort.
Well, without trying to be too facetious, you're not meeting the right women. Opting-out is fine, but we are a sociable, if not herd, animal with sexual and social needs that can't generally be satisfactorily met on your own
CharlesdeGaulle said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Eventually you find the reward is no longer worth the effort.
Well, without trying to be too facetious, you're not meeting the right women. Opting-out is fine, but we are a sociable, if not herd, animal with sexual and social needs that can't generally be satisfactorily met on your own
mondeoman said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Eventually you find the reward is no longer worth the effort.
Well, without trying to be too facetious, you're not meeting the right women. Opting-out is fine, but we are a sociable, if not herd, animal with sexual and social needs that can't generally be satisfactorily met on your own
Smollet said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Smollet said:
I gave up with serious relationships some 25 years ago and 20 years ago I just gave up on any relationship. Since then I don't think I've missed anything not having one and am far happier on my own.
That is of course fair enough, but it doesn't make you typical does it? That's still a pretty unusual lifestyle choice. The only minor gripe I had when single was 'the holiday tax' - I like a couple of weeks in the sun lying by the pool doing very little other than sunbathing, reading and having the odd beer. You either get done over by single supplements, or pay them and go somewhere where everyone is a couple, so you get looked at like some kind of pariah just because you are not on holiday with someone. I ditched all of those places and started travelling independently, much easier to 'fit in' as it were away from package holiday places so you don't get looked at like some kind of axe murderer just because you are dining alone.
I have a female friend who does a lot of these 'Solo' type holidays but from what I can gather there's a bit of a not-so-hidden slightly forced agenda of wanting to meet someone in that environment. Basically my friend gets back each time to loads of Facebook requests from blokes 15yrs older than her, that she's not interested in, and they want a bunk-up.
Probably a bit late to the party on this one but every bloke I know who has been internet dating has noticed dating is getting harder and to an extent agreeing with the assertions about it being due to the majority of women seeking only the top status men.
Every bloke I know has said that they get matches and the woman won't speak, they get ditched when asking for a date or randomly picked up and put down. You never know why that is for any given case but other mates with sisters or female friends have said as much that they use internet dating for a bit of an ego boost, boredom or even go out on dates for something to do or get a free meal. Why wouldn't they? It's a gravy train that never ends they literally have 100 men a day throwing themselves at them so why do they want to pick or settle into normality when next week there is another exciting batch of prospects.
What that does to men is causes them to look at themselves through their own male lens and pick fault with why they aren't the best men from a set of male requirements, ie height, wage, status etc. That may or may not be true as a bulk rule but there are a number of profiles that actively lay out a list of detailed demands so its easy to extrapolate that out. I think its simply that the power balance has swung too far one way due to the internet and MGTOW are the backlash. If men pull back the oversupply of male prospects for women then the ability for women to keep sampling from the buffet disappears.
Personally I have pulled out of the game for over a year now totally as I came to the same conclusions that I must somehow be substandard and simply got fed up of that. It's an experience that jades you. Maybe there is something really wrong and I just don't see it but if I cant then I cant fix it, a catch 22. For me its the right call as I'm much happier not second guessing why I wasn't good enough for the 40th time that week.
Every bloke I know has said that they get matches and the woman won't speak, they get ditched when asking for a date or randomly picked up and put down. You never know why that is for any given case but other mates with sisters or female friends have said as much that they use internet dating for a bit of an ego boost, boredom or even go out on dates for something to do or get a free meal. Why wouldn't they? It's a gravy train that never ends they literally have 100 men a day throwing themselves at them so why do they want to pick or settle into normality when next week there is another exciting batch of prospects.
What that does to men is causes them to look at themselves through their own male lens and pick fault with why they aren't the best men from a set of male requirements, ie height, wage, status etc. That may or may not be true as a bulk rule but there are a number of profiles that actively lay out a list of detailed demands so its easy to extrapolate that out. I think its simply that the power balance has swung too far one way due to the internet and MGTOW are the backlash. If men pull back the oversupply of male prospects for women then the ability for women to keep sampling from the buffet disappears.
Personally I have pulled out of the game for over a year now totally as I came to the same conclusions that I must somehow be substandard and simply got fed up of that. It's an experience that jades you. Maybe there is something really wrong and I just don't see it but if I cant then I cant fix it, a catch 22. For me its the right call as I'm much happier not second guessing why I wasn't good enough for the 40th time that week.
Buzz you could not have summed up my own experience with net dating any better than you have, plus that of other guys I know who have also given it a try (who are all very different people, so quite a cross section of single men are saying the same thing).
As its become more mainstream in the last 3 or 4 years, the experience has become far worse.
As its become more mainstream in the last 3 or 4 years, the experience has become far worse.
Buzz word said:
Probably a bit late to the party on this one but every bloke I know who has been internet dating has noticed dating is getting harder and to an extent agreeing with the assertions about it being due to the majority of women seeking only the top status men.
Every bloke I know has said that they get matches and the woman won't speak, they get ditched when asking for a date or randomly picked up and put down. You never know why that is for any given case but other mates with sisters or female friends have said as much that they use internet dating for a bit of an ego boost, boredom or even go out on dates for something to do or get a free meal. Why wouldn't they? It's a gravy train that never ends they literally have 100 men a day throwing themselves at them so why do they want to pick or settle into normality when next week there is another exciting batch of prospects.
What that does to men is causes them to look at themselves through their own male lens and pick fault with why they aren't the best men from a set of male requirements, ie height, wage, status etc. That may or may not be true as a bulk rule but there are a number of profiles that actively lay out a list of detailed demands so its easy to extrapolate that out. I think its simply that the power balance has swung too far one way due to the internet and MGTOW are the backlash. If men pull back the oversupply of male prospects for women then the ability for women to keep sampling from the buffet disappears.
Personally I have pulled out of the game for over a year now totally as I came to the same conclusions that I must somehow be substandard and simply got fed up of that. It's an experience that jades you. Maybe there is something really wrong and I just don't see it but if I cant then I cant fix it, a catch 22. For me its the right call as I'm much happier not second guessing why I wasn't good enough for the 40th time that week.
Are the photos online a true reflection of that woman? Is it a pic of a friend, a pic from years previously when she was much younger, is it Instagramed/filters applied and manipulated to make them look prettier than they really are? They are lost in a endless bottle of white wine and need to feel good about themselves because in person maybe no one would pick them up, flirt or ask for a date and they are hiding from this truth? Online gives them a sense of power and beauty, a facade?Every bloke I know has said that they get matches and the woman won't speak, they get ditched when asking for a date or randomly picked up and put down. You never know why that is for any given case but other mates with sisters or female friends have said as much that they use internet dating for a bit of an ego boost, boredom or even go out on dates for something to do or get a free meal. Why wouldn't they? It's a gravy train that never ends they literally have 100 men a day throwing themselves at them so why do they want to pick or settle into normality when next week there is another exciting batch of prospects.
What that does to men is causes them to look at themselves through their own male lens and pick fault with why they aren't the best men from a set of male requirements, ie height, wage, status etc. That may or may not be true as a bulk rule but there are a number of profiles that actively lay out a list of detailed demands so its easy to extrapolate that out. I think its simply that the power balance has swung too far one way due to the internet and MGTOW are the backlash. If men pull back the oversupply of male prospects for women then the ability for women to keep sampling from the buffet disappears.
Personally I have pulled out of the game for over a year now totally as I came to the same conclusions that I must somehow be substandard and simply got fed up of that. It's an experience that jades you. Maybe there is something really wrong and I just don't see it but if I cant then I cant fix it, a catch 22. For me its the right call as I'm much happier not second guessing why I wasn't good enough for the 40th time that week.
The real nice girls are pit off online dating by the pushy men, the ones that send pics of their dicks and are obnoxious. Seen any pics of blokes profiles? Maybe alot are the same, full of guff and lies to attract female attention. A genuine female bitten say twice also leaves the online game..
Wow guys, I really feel for you lot. 69 year old here so way off the current method of courting etc. (thank goodness)
In my antiquated experience it was go to a dance. night club or pub. Chat to the target, buy a babycham and brandy, known as "knicker elastic destroyer" and away!
You guys seem to have it all so complicated. Not sure I could survive in your world, so good luck to all of you navigating in what appears to be a minefield.
I sometimes envy you young guys but looking back I think life was simpler then.
Anyway, go forth guys and I am sure things will work for you in the end.
In my antiquated experience it was go to a dance. night club or pub. Chat to the target, buy a babycham and brandy, known as "knicker elastic destroyer" and away!
You guys seem to have it all so complicated. Not sure I could survive in your world, so good luck to all of you navigating in what appears to be a minefield.
I sometimes envy you young guys but looking back I think life was simpler then.
Anyway, go forth guys and I am sure things will work for you in the end.
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