Modern single women

[Hoofy]

AndrewEH1 said:

Hoofy said:

It's not really an issue, is it? While I would prioritise the house before the watch, if he's secure in his parents' flat then good for him.

I was lucky and able to afford to move out of the family home permanently when I was 19 therefore had no issues bringing someone back to mine at the end of the night. I can't understand why anyone would give up the chance to have their own place to buy a watch...

Obviously a lot of people can't afford to move out of the family home until their late 20s/early 30s but you have to be a bit silly to give that chance up!

I imagined from what was written that he was not living with his parents but living in his parents' flat.

[AndrewEH1]

Hoofy said:

I imagined from what was written that he was not living with his parents but living in his parents' flat.

Ah, missed the flat bit! Well if he's getting cheap/free rent in a flat all to himself you could say he'd be silly to move! haha

[Zetec-S]

Ari said:

I'm a bit older - in my forties. I met some very nice and very sorted women dating last year and am seeing one now.

A lot of posts on here do suggest that many men prioritise looks above everything else and will then put up with anything to keep the 'looker' (who is probably out of their league so will inevitably fail, leading to a bitter divorce). You've only got to look at the scorn and derision poured on any woman mentioned who isn't absolutely physically perfect - Aintree threads are the perfect example.

The concept of trying to find a woman with a nice rounded personality seems alien to many. It's ALL about the looks. It's no wonder some of these 'stunners' develop 'little princess' personalities.

I'm not saying date a munter. But maybe try going out with women who are a little more normal and down to earth.

^^^^ This makes a lot of sense. If the initial relationship is based mainly on looks I imagine at some point one of you will find someone else they prefer the look of, or get bored of the relationship. Too many people get hung up on a certain "type" they like rather than what they are like as a person, and then wonder why things don't work out.

mjb1 said:

I've got a good friend who's mid/late 30's and single. And as far as I know, he's straight and never had any kind of relationship, probably still a virgin. He's tall, fit and healthy, reasonable looks, decent personality and sense of humour, own house and business. He should pretty well have the pick of the crop, but the ever diminishing range of single women around his age, and his very high standards might mean he stays single. If he'd consider girls in their early to mid 20's as suitable, I'm sure he'd fare better, and it wouldn't be that much of an age gap.

Disagree slightly... not saying there's anything wrong with an age gap but personally, as much as I hate to admit it, I struggle to find a lot of things in common with some of the 20 something's in the office (I'm 36).

If your mate was to get together with someone in their early 20's now, by the time he's 50 they'll still be mid-30's. Without wishing to generalise, she'd still be young enough to hook someone half his age if she wanted.

[fido]

AndrewEH1 said:

Hoofy said:

I imagined from what was written that he was not living with his parents but living in his parents' flat.

Ah, missed the flat bit! Well if he's getting cheap/free rent in a flat all to himself you could say he'd be silly to move! haha

Sounds like he was bored of her.
Her: "Honey buns - we're going to Foxtons tomorrow to look at that flat in Brixton."
Him: "Why?"
Her: "To find a home together - we can't live in your parents flat forever!"
Him: "I've spent the deposit on a Patek Phillippe."
Her: "You what!"
Him: "The guys on PH were raving about it on the Watches forum."
Her: "That's it. It's over between us. You can live here on own with your stupid watch!"

[djt100]

Girl i used to work with , early 20's she was quite settled and sensible, but she was talking about one of her friends and said if you didn't drive a range rover, Q7 , etc, then you would not even get a look in. sad state.

[xjay1337]

djt100 said:

Girl i used to work with , early 20's she was quite settled and sensible, but she was talking about one of her friends and said if you didn't drive a range rover, Q7 , etc, then you would not even get a look in. sad state.

What did she drive?

[AyBee]

Shakermaker said:

Pretty much this I expect LOL.

But the last chap she was with, decided that instead of saving up his money for a house deposit, he went and splashed £15,000 on a watch and was happy to live in his parent's flat in central London.

So don't be "that guy"

And she thought he'd sell it and turn it into a house for the both of them?

[ymwoods]

okgo said:

To be honest, life must be a total slog if you're not good looking.

Depends on the bank balance

[Superflow]

It is sad.I dodged a few lookers when I were younger because i knew they were one dimensional as people and would probably screw me over in time given the chance.I ended up with a good woman who fortunately is also pretty.

[Kneetrembler]

If I was young and single, from what I read I would be paying for a slice now and again as required much easier and cheaper in the long road and no back chat plus choice of some attractive women 😛

[bucksmanuk]

Sane
Single
Sexy
Pick any 2.....

[Vocal Minority]

Ari said:

I'm a bit older - in my forties. I met some very nice and very sorted women dating last year and am seeing one now.

A lot of posts on here do suggest that many men prioritise looks above everything else and will then put up with anything to keep the 'looker' (who is probably out of their league so will inevitably fail, leading to a bitter divorce). You've only got to look at the scorn and derision poured on any woman mentioned who isn't absolutely physically perfect - Aintree threads are the perfect example.

The concept of trying to find a woman with a nice rounded personality seems alien to many. It's ALL about the looks. It's no wonder some of these 'stunners' develop 'little princess' personalities.

I'm not saying date a munter. But maybe try going out with women who are a little more normal and down to earth.

PH in a post - Frankly! Good summary.

Edited by Vocal Minority on Monday 13th March 17:22

[Vocal Minority]

Hainey said:

Women lose their looks, men build their wealth. One of those realises you dont throw money at a depreciating asset on the countdowm to the menopause and the extreme mental.

PH - assets matter! Everything is an asset!


This place does make me chuckle (if I didn't laugh I'd despair)

Edited by Vocal Minority on Monday 13th March 17:20

[anonymous-user]

love my other half very much and get along very well with her. We have mutual and separate interests.

[jamoor]

Nanook said:

djt100 said:

Girl i used to work with , early 20's she was quite settled and sensible, but she was talking about one of her friends and said if you didn't drive a range rover, Q7 , etc, then you would not even get a look in. sad state.

Sounds like my wife's best friend. Cannot abide the woman.

Moved away a few years ago to Yorkshire to live with a guy she met on 'sugardaddie.com' He cheated on her regularly, and was drunk and (never physically) abusive, but he had a nice car and house, courtesy of Daddies business, and bought her some fake plastic tits.

She left him not long after he paid for the puppies, and very quickly moved in with another guy, surprise, he's a fairly well off business owner. This one is a really nice guy though. Of all the guys she's been in a relationship with while I've known her, he's the nicest by far. Has a son with his ex, who is the most important thing in his life.

So she's left him too, not before cheating on him a few times* with work colleagues, and the sugardaddie ex, because she wants to go out and get pished at the weekend, and he has his son every weekend.

So, she viewed a flat back up this way, and got herself a new job back up here too, and has moved into my mate's flat, renting his spare room off him for cheap. Said mate is also an ex of hers. This was only a temporary arrangement until she got into the flat she's told us she'd bought, only last night she announced that she's been KB'd for a mortgage, and doesn't know how long it'll take her to get a place, whilst she's paying my mate a pittance in rent.

Then she started suggesting that maybe the ex she's just left would lend her the 60k she was looking for?

* Phoned my wife up one day, crying about how she'd been chucked out by the BF, he was shouting and being mean, and she hadn't done anything wrong. Apart from maybe kissing a colleague at a work party. Which turned out to mean she'd sucked the guy off, then told the current BF, then when he went nuts, she left, went back to the exs place, slept with him, and took various pictures of her toothbrush, bag, undies etc. at this guys house and sent them to the current BF. We only found this out after she'd been lying about it for several weeks.

My wife wonders why I'm so mean to this best friend. I don't get it. She tells stories like I've just recounted and my wife and her mates seem to shrug and go "Oh, Melanie, what's she like" (Name changed to protect the guilty)

She's a fking lying piece of st, that's what she's like, and I'm sure she's not the only one out there, why do people stand up for her? She deserves every bad thing that happens to her!

Christ how do people live with all of this drama in their lives.

[Ari]

jamoor said:

Christ how do people live with all of this drama in their lives.

Some seem unable to live without it...

[okgo]

Melanie sounds a laugh.

[Jimmy Recard]

Hoofy said:

Reading threads such as the faffing one tend to put you off.

good point

Maybe I've been here too long. It's ruined me as a relationship mate

[Countdown]

Given that women are all so shallow..... Would any PH'er marry anybody who wasn't attractive?

I'm not sure why women are being criticised for being honest.

[xRIEx]

DonkeyApple said:

garylythgoe said:

I've actually been having thoughts very similar to this MGTOW concept, but now at least I know it's a thing.

You need to be living in a stty, one bedroom flat, have kids who think you're a loser and spend an abnormal amount of what money you have on tissues to join that club, I suspect. It's reads like a self help group for the pitiful failures and wretched examples of 'men'.

I'd not go as far as calling them that, but certainly on a quick glance at the MGTOW forum a while ago, most of the members seemed to be quite bitter and, dare I say it, misogynistic. Not to say all are like that, but the vocal ones definitely put out that image (see some of theirs Youtube channels too). Of course, I should have spent a bit more time delving in to the community before forming an opinion, but I couldn't be bothered to spend the time so I accept that my opinion is effectively incomplete.

The movement strikes me as an equivalent to part of feminism (horseshoe theory): the "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" type of feminists (Gloria Steinem, I think) - it's the same principle mindset approached from the other side. One of the biggest similarities to modern feminism is the collectivist view: "all women are like that" and "MGTOW all have to think in the same way" (that last one isn't strictly said despite the quote marks, but people deviating from the mindset are often derided). Personally, I'm an individualist so I don't think any individual falling into a particular category automatically inherits all the traits of that category.

The basic principle and philosophy makes a lot of sense to me in the present time and I suppose I follow it to some degree, but it's not a label I'd ever apply to myself for the reasons above. #NotAllMGTOW