Modern single women
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Rich_W said:
-Pete- said:
No offence intended but I think Paul500 and Rich_W are going to struggle to find what they're looking for. If their 'live' persona is even close to what they write on here, a MSW of any worth is going to run a mile.
Insert Facepalm meme here -->You don't get it either. I don't care if a girl rejects me. That's what equality is all about. It has however gotten to a point where I question if it's worth actively pursuing girls. If it happens it happens. I concentrate on myself more nowadays. I don't do things to try and pander to what a girl might like. If a girl is interested great, if not, no worries.
I find it odd that MSW>30 reject EVERYONE. THIS was the point of the thread.
Do try and keep up. Or maybe take off the White knight armour.
Years back I went on a night out with a girl-friend (ie a mate) and her 4 girl mates. (I must have looked like a proper pimp only guy in a group of 6
) I liked one of them and dropped some hints. But she wasn't interested in me. Fine, her right.
She runs a small business. She had bought her own flat. She has a brain. She's perfectly pleasant. No weirdness that I know of. We're Facebook friends and even now and then over the last years we'd see each other at mutual events and have a chat.
Since then she has not had a SINGLE boyfriend. I've seen her pics on POF and Tinder, since she lives about 2 miles from me and is in the same age range.
Why would she not find ANYBODY to have even a casual relationship with in that time?
Why would the girl Emily in the video in the original post. Not be able to find a guy to be in a relationship with?
Why do the girls that Paul500 is referring to, who re-initiate conversations then go instantly quiet when he suggests a drink?
To all you guys saying that me, Paul500, RicharDc5 etc are idiots. (paraphrasing)
Explain to us WHY MSW>30 are moaning about not finding a suitable guy and not "settling for less" They aren't running a mile from me. They are running a mile from EVERYONE
Apart from perhaps Tom Hardy, apparently he's OK, and once they meet him it will be happily ever after...
Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 19th March 23:33
Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 19th March 23:33
2. You are a stalker
3. How the fck do you know how many dates/relationships she has had during this period?
otolith said:
xjay1337 said:
otolith said:
So effectively some people in their thirties would rather be single than settle for the kind of partner available to them. Some of them feel entitled to a relationship with the sort of person who isn't available to them and feel resentful about those people rejecting them. I think those people (of both sexes) would probably be happier if they just owned the consequences of their choices.
I guess, but it is interesting why someone who has been on Tinder/PoF for a while (was it years in Rich W's example?) wasn't able to find a date or a relationship in that time? She obviously was "wanting" a relationship as she was on these dating sites. However I get that it can take time to find the right one.
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Times have changed quite drastically in terms of social pressures, expressions, emotions etc, over the last 10 years.
Seems a shame really, but we can't control that, just try to roll with it.
andy-xr said:
Rich_W said:
I messaged her and got no reply. Fair enough. I daresay there was probably 1 thing that discounted me. laugh But don't get me wrong, much as I thought she was good looking, she wasn't a solid 10/10. Would love to know what the one thing was. She's still on there now btw months later - and her age range has increased beyond my age.
I just think you're really needy and whiney, why do you need to know what the 1 thing (it might not have been 1 btw it could just be a general 'not for me') was? For you to try and change it, or for you to somehow make a point that this 1 thing isnt such a big deal and she should get over it? She could have thought you sounded obsessive or weird. You really cant change what people will think or do, there's no point trying.
No answer is an answer, it's just not the one you were hoping for.
Rich, take a look at what you're writing and how it comes across to others. It's a bit pathetic.
Nanook said:
...but as someone that has a wife...
Why would you get married in the world we live in today? When the inevitable divorce comes. You WILL lose so much! Worse if there are children involved. I would say of the people I've watched get married in the last 10 years (of all types and backgrounds and even parts of the world) 2/3rds-3/4s of them are divorced. For a variety of reasons. DuncanM said:
Who are any of us, to demand that Women (or Men) behave in a particular way?
Of course not. I find the behaviour odd though, hence the thread. DuncanM said:
I don't see it as a gender issue, I see dickish behaviour from both Men and Women.
As I alluded to earlier, this trait of only searching out perfection, seems in the main to be a female trait more so than guys. But I suspect that's the old "Women seeking security". "Men seeking fertility" thing. Id argue it's also more a lady thing since the number of guys earning X amount of having Y career. Is LOWER than number of girls who guys want to date/shag.andy-xr said:
She wanted to feel that feeling and didnt want to settle for something average.
Seeking perfection, when you aren't perfect yourself, will inevitably leave anyone disappointed.andy-xr said:
.. and you hope she dies alone and f
k her and the horse she rode in on.
Go fk her and the horse she rode in on. k yourself! I don't HOPE she dies alone. What a y thing to say! 
andy-xr said:
White Knight was your label, I dont really think it fits because it's just a word you like the sound of so try to apply it to various scenarios hoping it'll fit one.
It fits you because you attack me and the other guys who've seen this "phenomenon" and query it. But defend girls honour who you've never met. You took the bloggers word as gospel. What if she's lying? What if she's the problem to why she can't find a partner? Did that occur to you? 
andy-xr said:
they want to be picky. Who're you to argue with what someone else wants?
I'm not arguing what they should do 
I'm saying it's a hiding to nothing to dismiss 99.999999% of the population. I think it's daft and surely they as intelligent girls should realise that.andy-xr said:
You've chosen not to dip your wick in company ink. I think that's daft, but thats where we are. Seeing as you've had a run of them recently I'd hope that you can see that jobs dont last forever.
Thanks for the background check. Is this in addition to the work one I passed a while back? andy-xr said:
why do you need to know what the 1 thing (it might not have been 1 btw it could just be a general 'not for me') was? For you to try and change it, or for you to somehow make a point that this 1 thing isnt such a big deal and she should get over it?
It was a joke FFS! Whooosh parrot required?otolith said:
Or just window shopping. I think there is less social and economic pressure to couple up - particularly on women in the latter case - than there used to be.
I don't fully agree with you. Whilst I agree there's less pressure to be in a relationship. There's the pressure to produce children. Particularly if the parents would quite like to be grandparents. (My parents love spoiling their grandchildren) This pressure comes from family / friends and also nature making it more difficult at an later age to conceive.
TwistingMyMelon said:
1. You over analyse dating and women far far too much, do you work with Excel for a living?
2. You are a stalker
3. How the fck do you know how many dates/relationships she has had during this period?
1) It's a interest certainly. I guess its amateur psychology in a way. I didn't realise we all had to be interested in the same things. Maybe whatever you are into would be boring to me and everyone on this thread. And No to Excel.2. You are a stalker
3. How the fck do you know how many dates/relationships she has had during this period?
2) Not often
3) I dunno, maybe I talk to her and her friends from time to time. Damn this thing called communication
My mate says other girl doesn't date anyone. She has offered to set me up with her. (Ive politely pointed out she wasn't interested in me years ago why would that change ) My mate invited me to an event a while back simply because "this girl will be there" (I was 'busy')GroundEffect said:
Agreed
Rich, take a look at what you're writing and how it comes across to others. It's a bit pathetic.
Of all the people to agree with. Rich, take a look at what you're writing and how it comes across to others. It's a bit pathetic.
Even people who don't accept my pov, are better than XR boy. It's only pathetic if you can't understand the question being asked and get sidetracked with your own preconceived notions as to what you THINK is being asked.
For clarity and to rephrase it.
"Why do MSW>30 now only seek (near) perfection from a partner? Why can't they see that it severely limits their options for partners and I guess happiness"
And as a separate part to the question.
"Has this trend in MSW>30 meant that more guys over 30 are MGTOW / Neomasculine. Since they are thinking Why do I want to be in a relationship with a girl like that?"
Sa Calobra said:
danllama said:
Ultimately, this thread is depressing.
It started off funny now it's arguing. Probably cause they are a bit thick and it mirrored their own lives.When in fact it was guys saying "why would I want a MSW>30 ?"
Not
"I cant find anyone decent" which is what it degenerated into
Then it all fell to rats
t around p2/3 because people who hadn't read the whole thread started posting based on the same incorrect assumption. Was ok whilst it lasted.
GroundEffect said:
andy-xr said:
Rich_W said:
I messaged her and got no reply. Fair enough. I daresay there was probably 1 thing that discounted me. laugh But don't get me wrong, much as I thought she was good looking, she wasn't a solid 10/10. Would love to know what the one thing was. She's still on there now btw months later - and her age range has increased beyond my age.
I just think you're really needy and whiney, why do you need to know what the 1 thing (it might not have been 1 btw it could just be a general 'not for me') was? For you to try and change it, or for you to somehow make a point that this 1 thing isnt such a big deal and she should get over it? She could have thought you sounded obsessive or weird. You really cant change what people will think or do, there's no point trying.
No answer is an answer, it's just not the one you were hoping for.
Rich, take a look at what you're writing and how it comes across to others. It's a bit pathetic.
Rich_W said:
I know it was Ari, 2cv, Andy XR and a few other white knights who stormed the compound and decided (with no real evidence) that this was full of sad guys who were berating women for not sleeping with them. Probably cause they are a bit thick and it mirrored their own lives.
When in fact it was guys saying "why would I want a MSW>30 ?"
Not
"I cant find anyone decent" which is what it degenerated into
Then it all fell to ratst around p2/3 because people who hadn't read the whole thread started posting based on the same incorrect assumption.
Was ok whilst it lasted.
a - you're a fruitloop Probably cause they are a bit thick and it mirrored their own lives.When in fact it was guys saying "why would I want a MSW>30 ?"
Not
"I cant find anyone decent" which is what it degenerated into
Then it all fell to rats
t around p2/3 because people who hadn't read the whole thread started posting based on the same incorrect assumption. Was ok whilst it lasted.
b - you havent said 'Single Women are really picky, not sure if they're for me'. What you've actually said is 'Single Women are really picky and here's my negative opinion about their choices. While we're here why wont these examples here, these fussy b
hes, why havent they gone out with me?' This is such a strange thread.
I don't consider myself a white knight or a woman-hater as it happens, as I concede that there are about an equal number of horrible women and troglodyte men about the place.
I got married last year (to a German girl, ironically) but not especially because I was struggling to meet nice girls here. In fact pretty much all my previous girlfriends, were actually really nice and at least two or three of them were 'marriage material' had we met a bit later in life or whatever.
My suspicion here, which is borne out by the tone of his posts, is that the OP simply isn't very funny. That's what girls actually like. It's not really about 'status' and job security and just because somebody posts something about not dating under men who aren't rich with a six pack on Facebook, doesn't make it actually true. Pretty sure I declared I would only settle down with Jet from Gladiators and yet now my lie is exposed for what it was...
Make 'em laugh, as the saying goes. And also, don't try and meet them in ste clubs full of scummers. I spent many years as an actor/musician so was completely skint with no security to offer and went out with loads of women who earned more and had better jobs than me and it's honestly never been an issue. I'm pretty happy in my own skin and don't need people to 'recognise my status' so perhaps that helps?
Honestly, good craic and charm gets you far further than a Golf R on a lease IMO. Nothing to do with white knights or picky women.
I don't consider myself a white knight or a woman-hater as it happens, as I concede that there are about an equal number of horrible women and troglodyte men about the place.
I got married last year (to a German girl, ironically) but not especially because I was struggling to meet nice girls here. In fact pretty much all my previous girlfriends, were actually really nice and at least two or three of them were 'marriage material' had we met a bit later in life or whatever.
My suspicion here, which is borne out by the tone of his posts, is that the OP simply isn't very funny. That's what girls actually like. It's not really about 'status' and job security and just because somebody posts something about not dating under men who aren't rich with a six pack on Facebook, doesn't make it actually true. Pretty sure I declared I would only settle down with Jet from Gladiators and yet now my lie is exposed for what it was...
Make 'em laugh, as the saying goes. And also, don't try and meet them in s
te clubs full of scummers. I spent many years as an actor/musician so was completely skint with no security to offer and went out with loads of women who earned more and had better jobs than me and it's honestly never been an issue. I'm pretty happy in my own skin and don't need people to 'recognise my status' so perhaps that helps?Honestly, good craic and charm gets you far further than a Golf R on a lease IMO. Nothing to do with white knights or picky women.
You need to get them in their late 30S.
All that's really happened is that the prissy, high expectations of girls in their early 20s has been extended by another decade or so.
Once the theme tune of Friends fades out and the ticking of the biological clock grows louder they tend to wise up a bit.
All that's really happened is that the prissy, high expectations of girls in their early 20s has been extended by another decade or so.
Once the theme tune of Friends fades out and the ticking of the biological clock grows louder they tend to wise up a bit.
andy-xr said:
a - you're a fruitloop
b - you havent said 'Single Women are really picky, not sure if they're for me'. What you've actually said is 'Single Women are really picky and here's my negative opinion about their choices. While we're here why wont these examples here, these fussy bhes, why havent they gone out with me?'
Yep, the more he writes, the more I hear 'boo hoo hoo, girls I fancy don't fancy me back'b - you havent said 'Single Women are really picky, not sure if they're for me'. What you've actually said is 'Single Women are really picky and here's my negative opinion about their choices. While we're here why wont these examples here, these fussy b
hes, why havent they gone out with me?' 
Disastrous said:
This is such a strange thread.
I don't consider myself a white knight or a woman-hater as it happens, as I concede that there are about an equal number of horrible women and troglodyte men about the place.
I got married last year (to a German girl, ironically) but not especially because I was struggling to meet nice girls here. In fact pretty much all my previous girlfriends, were actually really nice and at least two or three of them were 'marriage material' had we met a bit later in life or whatever.
My suspicion here, which is borne out by the tone of his posts, is that the OP simply isn't very funny. That's what girls actually like. It's not really about 'status' and job security and just because somebody posts something about not dating under men who aren't rich with a six pack on Facebook, doesn't make it actually true. Pretty sure I declared I would only settle down with Jet from Gladiators and yet now my lie is exposed for what it was...
Make 'em laugh, as the saying goes. And also, don't try and meet them in ste clubs full of scummers. I spent many years as an actor/musician so was completely skint with no security to offer and went out with loads of women who earned more and had better jobs than me and it's honestly never been an issue. I'm pretty happy in my own skin and don't need people to 'recognise my status' so perhaps that helps?
Honestly, good craic and charm gets you far further than a Golf R on a lease IMO. Nothing to do with white knights or picky women.
I must admit (personally) I've not struggled with girls and I've been able to spot the Dotty ones. For me you get a glimpse of irrational idea or comment on a subject. It's snapshot then they act normal again. That's when I know the girl is a certain way. For instance- great girl but buys diet pills, has a bizarre opinion on a couples relationship situation that doesn't sit right with how they normally think, etc etc. You only glimpse it once but it's enough.I don't consider myself a white knight or a woman-hater as it happens, as I concede that there are about an equal number of horrible women and troglodyte men about the place.
I got married last year (to a German girl, ironically) but not especially because I was struggling to meet nice girls here. In fact pretty much all my previous girlfriends, were actually really nice and at least two or three of them were 'marriage material' had we met a bit later in life or whatever.
My suspicion here, which is borne out by the tone of his posts, is that the OP simply isn't very funny. That's what girls actually like. It's not really about 'status' and job security and just because somebody posts something about not dating under men who aren't rich with a six pack on Facebook, doesn't make it actually true. Pretty sure I declared I would only settle down with Jet from Gladiators and yet now my lie is exposed for what it was...
Make 'em laugh, as the saying goes. And also, don't try and meet them in s
te clubs full of scummers. I spent many years as an actor/musician so was completely skint with no security to offer and went out with loads of women who earned more and had better jobs than me and it's honestly never been an issue. I'm pretty happy in my own skin and don't need people to 'recognise my status' so perhaps that helps?Honestly, good craic and charm gets you far further than a Golf R on a lease IMO. Nothing to do with white knights or picky women.
Every girl bar one I'd class as long-term great material. That one girl who wasn't loved attention, got the glimpse and I ended it. She went onto gain a reputation.
The over-whelming advice I am hearing on this thread is - 'don't better yourself, go out of your way, make more effort - just bide your time and their expectations will soon lower and they'll settle for you. Just you hang in there Captain Mediocrity!'
I'm sure that isn't what you mean....but it really sounds like that!
I'm sure that isn't what you mean....but it really sounds like that!
Rich_W said:
otolith said:
Or just window shopping. I think there is less social and economic pressure to couple up - particularly on women in the latter case - than there used to be.
I don't fully agree with you. Whilst I agree there's less pressure to be in a relationship. There's the pressure to produce children. Particularly if the parents would quite like to be grandparents. (My parents love spoiling their grandchildren) This pressure comes from family / friends and also nature making it more difficult at an later age to conceive.
otolith said:
Lots of women (and men) have no desire to have children and have rejected what social pressure there is to do so. I feel that way. My late wife felt that way. I have friends who feel that way (and were expressing that view 25 years ago in their late teens).
Me too. Sadly we had a 'accident'. I don't 'regret' him but in no way did I feel incomplete before my son happened. I was very happy. I didn't and still don't get the desire to have children. It's a social pressure from a bygone era IMO. In the future there will be even less children as I feel the last generation who pushed for grandchildren as it was 'the thing to do' are our parents. In the future there will definitely no more marriage and no kids as the norm.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff