Should I accept damage to new car

Should I accept damage to new car

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Burwood

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18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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The photo below is the front face of the rear wheel trim. The black plastic (lowest 6-7 cm) is marred badly by road grime, sand, stones being flicked up. You can literally see the dirt line running along the lower white sills. The 'damage' to the black trim is 100% the same on both sides of the car. The car is 5 months old. Dealer suggesting i pay for new trim. I say it's a design fault and that the trim should be more recessed to avoid being a stone trap.




kiethton

13,891 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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It is what it is, damage caused through use and don't think it's unreasonable for a stone moving at +60mph to cause some marking to some plastic trim.

I'm with the dealer on this one unfortunately

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Sorry, you've bought a car which gets dirty, and gets a little more dirty in more exposed areas and you think that's a design flaw which the manufacturer should clean / replace for the life-span of the car.

I can't see this going the way you hoped.....

AndySheff

6,636 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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JHTFC.

Burwood

Original Poster:

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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I've owned a lot of cars and never seen anything like this before.

MrOrange

2,035 posts

253 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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But it's not a new car. How many miles has it done?

essayer

9,057 posts

194 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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A few days of driving and the white part will be so dirty you won't even notice

paintman

7,680 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Very common to see, front wheels throw up road debris & it hits somewhere along the side of the car - usually sill or front of rear arch - & the reason why Audi & others have the stick-on clear plastic shields in areas of high stone impact.
The early Ford Kas had major problems with it hitting the front of the quarter panel immediately to the bottom rear of the door aperture stripping the paint off & rusting setting in. Later ones had a small plastic shield which stopped the damage.

Burwood

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18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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paintman said:
Very common to see, front wheels throw up road debris & it hits somewhere along the side of the car & the reason why Audi & others have the stick-on clear plastic shields in areas of high stone impact.
The early Ford Kas had major problems with it hitting the front of the quarter panel immediately to the bottom rear of the door aperture stripping the paint off & rusting setting in. Later ones had a small plastic shield which stopped the damage.
Thanks for your comments. When you say stick on shields, do you mean, standard fit. What did Ford do about the Ka, say tough st? I think it should have shields as factory fit.

paintman

7,680 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Factory fit.
For those vehicles that come with them pre-cut self-adhesive replacements are available from the relevant franchised dealer in the event of body repairs in those areas. Need to be slid into place over soapy water & the water then squeezed out with a rubber squeegee or similar. If you try to apply dry the adhesive is instant grab & you'll have lots of air bubbles trapped.
I've no idea what Ford did about the early ones.
Might be worth you having a word with one of the wrapping people to see if they can help.

eybic

9,212 posts

174 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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How many miles have you done?

Burwood

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18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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6k. and before you say it-i don't think thats many at all

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Cars do innevitably pick up damage with use.

I can't see you getting anywhere with this.

eybic

9,212 posts

174 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Burwood said:
6k. and before you say it-i don't think thats many at all
It's not but if you consider that at an average speed of 30mph, that's 200 hours on British roads. A few scuffs from stones on plastic trim from 200 hours on our roads isn't too bad I don't think. If it was recessed as you suggest, the crap would hit the car somewhere else.

I certainly wouldn't consider 6k to be a new car either.

Also, you're slightly above the 10k a year average mileage which we supposedly do.

XMT

3,791 posts

147 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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ok so lets say its a design fault.
what do you want out of this exactly?

Redesign the rear trim for you?
put on a new one every 6k miles?

Did you not view ANY other cars of the same type on autotrader, in the show room or real life, surely there is one out there that has more than 6k miles on it, did you check if they have the same issue?

if it upsets you so much, change the car

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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XMT said:
Did you not view ANY other cars of the same type on autotrader, in the show room or real life, surely there is one out there that has more than 6k miles on it, did you check if they have the same issue?
This, with bells on.

Unless it's a newly-launched model, then claiming it's a design fault means it'll be present on every single car of that type with more than nominal mileage on.

Which suggests that you didn't do even the most basic research before purchase.

If it bothers you that much, then fit a pair of front mudflaps, if they're available, or get some of this and a pair of scissors...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0017SBH10

steveo3002

10,515 posts

174 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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wear n tear , its just what happens

maybe consider some front mudflaps if you dont already have them , might deflect some of the stones

VGTICE

1,003 posts

87 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Burwood said:
Who wants to play "guess what car it is". I'm going to start with some kind of VAG, Skoda perhaps?

KevinCamaroSS

11,619 posts

280 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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They are plastic for a reason. If they were metal the stones flicked up would inevitably chip the paint and cause rusting. Be glad it is doing what it is supposed to do, which is prevent damage to the metalwork.

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Burwood said:
6k. and before you say it-i don't think thats many at all
My car had a new bumper last summer, it was stone chipped within a week. 6k miles is plenty of time to pick up some wear from use. You're on a hiding to nowhere with this one.