Karate experts - are they really 'hard'?
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Ayahuasca said:
How about Mike Tyson vs a Wing Chun expert?
Who would win?
Luckily, it was filmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPgafBEqn4
I'm....you know that's fiction tight...I think your joking but it's not clear? Who would win?
Luckily, it was filmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPgafBEqn4
Liokault said:
Ayahuasca said:
How about Mike Tyson vs a Wing Chun expert?
Who would win?
Luckily, it was filmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPgafBEqn4
I'm....you know that's fiction tight...I think your joking but it's not clear? Who would win?
Luckily, it was filmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPgafBEqn4
Ip Man was Bruce Lee's Kung-Fu master, looking good for his age. Funky Chinaman, from funky China town, it's an ancient Chinese art.
Ayahuasca said:
Liokault said:
Ayahuasca said:
How about Mike Tyson vs a Wing Chun expert?
Who would win?
Luckily, it was filmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPgafBEqn4
I'm....you know that's fiction tight...I think your joking but it's not clear? Who would win?
Luckily, it was filmed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPgafBEqn4
Ip Man was Bruce Lee's Kung-Fu master, looking good for his age. Funky Chinaman, from funky China town, it's an ancient Chinese art.
Liokault said:
Oh dearLiokault said:
No words.DoubleSix said:
Liokault said:
Oh dearthreads like these always remind me of the friends episode, unagi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md-zDIxNht4
some people do a few karate lessons, and in there head they are suddenly 7th dan master's ready to do 'chop time.' Always aware.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md-zDIxNht4
some people do a few karate lessons, and in there head they are suddenly 7th dan master's ready to do 'chop time.' Always aware.
My 10yr old boy and 11yr old girl are both black belts in kickboxing.
I'd suggest that they are better prepared to defend themselves than most kids of their age.
But they are kids.
They're just moving into the adult classes, where the intensity, power and quality of training increases massively, and both are looking forward to it.
My daughters ambition is to instruct in kickboxing in the USA, whilst travelling across the country, and then to ultimately joins our very own SAS. Yep, she's focussed, very fit, but how would she fair against other types of martial arts?
Difficult to say, but my friend is a black belt in 3 different MAs, practiced 2 others, and was an undefeated amateur boxer; as he says, he can combine aspects of all of them to suit any occasion (inc Muay Thai), and he fears no one.
Never forget though, there's always someone tougher than you, more experienced, or just for one second has an advantage which they use...
I'd suggest that they are better prepared to defend themselves than most kids of their age.
But they are kids.
They're just moving into the adult classes, where the intensity, power and quality of training increases massively, and both are looking forward to it.
My daughters ambition is to instruct in kickboxing in the USA, whilst travelling across the country, and then to ultimately joins our very own SAS. Yep, she's focussed, very fit, but how would she fair against other types of martial arts?
Difficult to say, but my friend is a black belt in 3 different MAs, practiced 2 others, and was an undefeated amateur boxer; as he says, he can combine aspects of all of them to suit any occasion (inc Muay Thai), and he fears no one.
Never forget though, there's always someone tougher than you, more experienced, or just for one second has an advantage which they use...
Liokault said:
I don't know why that video gets tagged as "aikido", the guy isn't doing or attempting to do any aikido, he's not known to practice aikido and he's not showing any signs of any kind of culture in his clothes or practice. I could bang on for ages about this and that and what aikido is about both physically and mentally but what's the point? I just don't get why this video is always related to aikido.rtz62 said:
My 10yr old boy and 11yr old girl are both black belts in kickboxing.
I'd suggest that they are better prepared to defend themselves than most kids of their age.
But they are kids.
They're just moving into the adult classes, where the intensity, power and quality of training increases massively, and both are looking forward to it.
My daughters ambition is to instruct in kickboxing in the USA, whilst travelling across the country, and then to ultimately joins our very own SAS. Yep, she's focussed, very fit, but how would she fair against other types of martial arts?
Difficult to say, but my friend is a black belt in 3 different MAs, practiced 2 others, and was an undefeated amateur boxer; as he says, he can combine aspects of all of them to suit any occasion (inc Muay Thai), and he fears no one.
Never forget though, there's always someone tougher than you, more experienced, or just for one second has an advantage which they use...
Its like a "Worlds Best Dad" mug, statistically unlikely to be the case.I'd suggest that they are better prepared to defend themselves than most kids of their age.
But they are kids.
They're just moving into the adult classes, where the intensity, power and quality of training increases massively, and both are looking forward to it.
My daughters ambition is to instruct in kickboxing in the USA, whilst travelling across the country, and then to ultimately joins our very own SAS. Yep, she's focussed, very fit, but how would she fair against other types of martial arts?
Difficult to say, but my friend is a black belt in 3 different MAs, practiced 2 others, and was an undefeated amateur boxer; as he says, he can combine aspects of all of them to suit any occasion (inc Muay Thai), and he fears no one.
Never forget though, there's always someone tougher than you, more experienced, or just for one second has an advantage which they use...
Saw a MA guy get in a tussle with the local lunatic, it was like watching a very persistent and skilled Moth against someone with a skull made of rock and shovels for hands, some blokes are just almost a different species, those are the ones to fear, 18 stone of mad b
d.Boring_Chris said:
I feel like I've derailed this fun thread by going full Internet copy-pasta.
Someone mentioned fencing looking slightly mundane? Whilst I do find martial arts a little bit
these guys do not fk about;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SHWXQBVL4
Deeply impressive, whatever your view of the 'scene'. I'd love to have a go.
Be cool to see them try it with real swords, in t shirt and shorts. Someone mentioned fencing looking slightly mundane? Whilst I do find martial arts a little bit
these guys do not fk about;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SHWXQBVL4
Deeply impressive, whatever your view of the 'scene'. I'd love to have a go.
I watched a video on a gore page of two guys in a real knife fight, horrendous wounds in a matter of minutes.
I doubt you can ever become an 'accomplished' knife fighter, the blood loss and nerve/muscle damage would kill/cripple you before you got much experience.
"Slash, don't stab". Best advice I ever had.
King Herald said:
Boring_Chris said:
I feel like I've derailed this fun thread by going full Internet copy-pasta.
Someone mentioned fencing looking slightly mundane? Whilst I do find martial arts a little bit these guys do not fk about;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SHWXQBVL4
Deeply impressive, whatever your view of the 'scene'. I'd love to have a go.
Be cool to see them try it with real swords, in t shirt and shorts. Someone mentioned fencing looking slightly mundane? Whilst I do find martial arts a little bit
these guys do not fk about;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SHWXQBVL4
Deeply impressive, whatever your view of the 'scene'. I'd love to have a go.
I watched a video on a gore page of two guys in a real knife fight, horrendous wounds in a matter of minutes.
I doubt you can ever become an 'accomplished' knife fighter, the blood loss and nerve/muscle damage would kill/cripple you before you got much experience.
"Slash, don't stab". Best advice I ever had.
I was bang into the old jidaigeki movies when I was younger and it was interesting how some of the more sensible directors approached sword fights between Samurai. From what I understood, audiences were usually expecting Errol Flynn style whizzy sword play - like the Jedi in the Star Wars prequels - but these guys wanted to wrong foot everyone and show it how it really was (well, within reason)
I remember my favourite of that type was (by awful translation) called 'Samurai Assassin'. The movie was structured (but included a whole load of political / family drama - hence the terrible translation!) as a build up to the final confrontation between two Samurai. You're expecting an epic battle of clashing swords, but it's over in one or two strokes, resulting in the most horrific injury I've ever 'seen' (it wasn't that graphic, but very bloody and very shocking) in a mainstream film. And it was released in the 50's!!!
As every film historian would then love to point out - sword fights were always short and messy.
There was another movie of the same era which depicted some hugely impressive sword fighting during training sessions, but with wooden swords. Still looked brutal. But one of the characters couldn't compete with the speed of the other guys so spent the movie practicing his simple 'just stab em in the face' technique. Low and behold, come the show down, the old 'just stab em in the face' come good and the fight was over in a second.
I suppose my long winded point is, sword / knife fighting (or even just 'fighting' in general) is still so romanticised by film we assume it's one thing, but the reality is very, very different.
Edit.
It was called Samurai Rebellion, not Assassin. And released in 1967, not the 50s (how silly do I feel)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Rebellion
Edited by Boring_Chris on Tuesday 28th March 11:11
Yep, films depict these graceful fights which last minutes with blocks, whirling attacks, counter blocks, parries, the swords flashing, sparking and bouncing off each other hundreds of times. In reality a sword strike can be completed in the blink of an eye, no human being has the reactions or skills needed to fend of a sword for minutes on end, even a master who has trained for years and it would all be over very quickly and messily in a couple of moves.
The Spruce goose said:
some people do a few karate lessons, and in there head they are suddenly 7th dan master's ready to do 'chop time.' Always aware.
It takes years of practice to become a killer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKA14aPrtn4
Guvernator said:
Yep, films depict these graceful fights which last minutes with blocks, whirling attacks, counter blocks, parries, the swords flashing, sparking and bouncing off each other hundreds of times. In reality a sword strike can be completed in the blink of an eye, no human being has the reactions or skills needed to fend of a sword for minutes on end, even a master who has trained for years and it would all be over very quickly and messily in a couple of moves.
like princess bride lol
Hoofy said:
You can easily simulate a real knife fight. Take two rulers, dip them in a pot of red paint. Fight a friend. See if either of you are clean after a couple of seconds.
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