Karate experts - are they really 'hard'?
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If I had to put money down on a fight between a non-contact black belt and somebody who was a bit tasty in a bar fight, it would be the brawler all day. Two hours a week line dancing in your pyjamas is not going to do much against someone who knows how to throw a solid punch and doesn't mind recieving a few digs in the process.
The odds would change dramatically though if you introduced full-contact karate, kickboxing or jiu-jitsu.
The odds would change dramatically though if you introduced full-contact karate, kickboxing or jiu-jitsu.
Edited by V8Matthew on Sunday 19th March 11:00
V8Matthew said:
If I had to put money down on a fight between a non-contact black belt and somebody who was a bit tasty in a bar fight, it would be the brawler all day. Two hours a week line dancing in your pyjamas is not going to do much against someone who knows how to throw a solid punch and doesn't mind recieving a few digs in the process.
The odds would change dramatically though if you introduced full-contact karate, kickboxing or jiu-jitsu.
The bold bit really made me laugh.The odds would change dramatically though if you introduced full-contact karate, kickboxing or jiu-jitsu.
Edited by V8Matthew on Sunday 19th March 11:00
My best mate from school was in to his MMA etc, he had a short fuse and was always looking for trouble, he was quite handy though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KGL_vNtelrM NSFW some bad language in this but very relevant
My sister is a black belt, trained from an early age.
At Uni she was atacked in the street by a bloke, the bloke came of worse. Off the back of that she joined the specials, and is now a full time copper. As a copper she's had to use it a few times when drunks turn violent.
I don't think it turns you into a hardman, but it can certainly help.
At Uni she was atacked in the street by a bloke, the bloke came of worse. Off the back of that she joined the specials, and is now a full time copper. As a copper she's had to use it a few times when drunks turn violent.
I don't think it turns you into a hardman, but it can certainly help.
HTP99 said:
V8Matthew said:
If I had to put money down on a fight between a non-contact black belt and somebody who was a bit tasty in a bar fight, it would be the brawler all day. Two hours a week line dancing in your pyjamas is not going to do much against someone who knows how to throw a solid punch and doesn't mind recieving a few digs in the process.
That definitely needs to go on the insult thread The biggest drawback of the Karate, Judo, BJJ, TKD, etc martial artist is that his is a 'sport' and he probably won't have experienced any proper fighting or true aggression.
Even UFC and MMA is controlled, and some martial art techniques like throat punches, eye gouges, elbow strikes, etc are not allowed. Plus they do it on a nice soft surface that lends itself to ground stuff, and they can take their time in grappling knowing that nobody else is going to come running up to kick them in the head.
Some martial arts - Krav Maga, Wing Chun and Combat Hapkido for example - are not sports because some of their techniques are literally lethal, or cause serious injury. Their drawback however is that because they are lethal, or can cause serious injury, they are not practiced for real.
How many martial artists does it take to change a lightbulb?
100.
1 to change the lightbulb and 99 to point out the deficiencies in your lightbulb, the advantages of their lightbulb, and that your lightbulb wouldn't work 'on the street'.
Even UFC and MMA is controlled, and some martial art techniques like throat punches, eye gouges, elbow strikes, etc are not allowed. Plus they do it on a nice soft surface that lends itself to ground stuff, and they can take their time in grappling knowing that nobody else is going to come running up to kick them in the head.
Some martial arts - Krav Maga, Wing Chun and Combat Hapkido for example - are not sports because some of their techniques are literally lethal, or cause serious injury. Their drawback however is that because they are lethal, or can cause serious injury, they are not practiced for real.
How many martial artists does it take to change a lightbulb?
100.
1 to change the lightbulb and 99 to point out the deficiencies in your lightbulb, the advantages of their lightbulb, and that your lightbulb wouldn't work 'on the street'.
Brigand said:
I don't care what colour your belt is, one kick in the 'nads and you're going down.
not always truehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js_3bIni52I
Talking of videos, this infamous example has probably been posted earlier but never mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2PxkSJW7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2PxkSJW7M
turbobloke said:
Talking of videos, this infamous example has probably been posted earlier but never mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2PxkSJW7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2PxkSJW7M
He crawls out of his garden, with the neighbourhood scalllies cackling in the background.
HTP99 said:
V8Matthew said:
If I had to put money down on a fight between a non-contact black belt and somebody who was a bit tasty in a bar fight, it would be the brawler all day. Two hours a week line dancing in your pyjamas is not going to do much against someone who knows how to throw a solid punch and doesn't mind recieving a few digs in the process.
The odds would change dramatically though if you introduced full-contact karate, kickboxing or jiu-jitsu.
The bold bit really made me laugh.The odds would change dramatically though if you introduced full-contact karate, kickboxing or jiu-jitsu.
Edited by V8Matthew on Sunday 19th March 11:00
My best mate from school was in to his MMA etc, he had a short fuse and was always looking for trouble, he was quite handy though.
My experience of this sort of thing through training and sparing hard with a genuinely tough lad and training at a well regarded gym with an ex ufc fighter as the instructor is that most things will help as long as it's practiced in a live situation
As long as you spar so your used to punches/kicks/takedowns coming is ALWAYS an advantage
My thoughts on most martial arts I can think of
Muay Thai- probably the most effective in the real world
Boxing- also very effective
Karate- unless it's the full contact type like Steven Thompson then useless
Bjj- if there is only one person involved this is VERY effective (if you've ever rolled with someone good you'd understand)
Aikido- complete waste of time
Krav Maga- effective but doing some of the moves your probably looking at jail time
Overall they should all help because you tend to be a bit fitter than the average man
As long as you spar so your used to punches/kicks/takedowns coming is ALWAYS an advantage
My thoughts on most martial arts I can think of
Muay Thai- probably the most effective in the real world
Boxing- also very effective
Karate- unless it's the full contact type like Steven Thompson then useless
Bjj- if there is only one person involved this is VERY effective (if you've ever rolled with someone good you'd understand)
Aikido- complete waste of time
Krav Maga- effective but doing some of the moves your probably looking at jail time
Overall they should all help because you tend to be a bit fitter than the average man
Grumpy old git said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KGL_vNtelrM NSFW some bad language in this but very relevant
Class
I started learning Karate about a 18 months ago. I'm about half way to black belt now. If anything its taught me how much of a crap fighter I am. I'd always try and avoid a fight now, even knowing what I know. It takes years of disciplined practice to pull off even the more basic karate moves with the speed, power and precision needed to be effective in a real fight. When you can though, its scary and brilliant all in one.
Don't regret learning it one bit though.
Don't regret learning it one bit though.
stargazer30 said:
I started learning Karate about a 18 months ago. I'm about half way to black belt now. If anything its taught me how much of a crap fighter I am. I'd always try and avoid a fight now, even knowing what I know. It takes years of disciplined practice to pull off even the more basic karate moves with the speed, power and precision needed to be effective in a real fight. When you can though, its scary and brilliant all in one.
Don't regret learning it one bit though.
18 years?Don't regret learning it one bit though.
turbobloke said:
Talking of videos, this infamous example has probably been posted earlier but never mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2PxkSJW7M
Haha I remember that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2PxkSJW7M
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